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Well RP-C000 you can introduce the new Hot to this very thread to do the needful.
As for Malirm it will be more benificial for you to concentrate on your flying as it is beyond you to understand what TarasB wants to convey through his well written posts
As for Malirm it will be more benificial for you to concentrate on your flying as it is beyond you to understand what TarasB wants to convey through his well written posts
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Well, guys, I just posted this on the Clark Aviation thread (the 2nd link is of more interest to the people in AAG UAE):
"Is this article accurate or are there...... inaccuracies?
Alpha Aviation Group (AAG) to invest aggressively in Philippine aviation industry « Aviator Aero / Newswire
On the other hand, I would like to congratulate AAG for the prestigeous "2007 Frost & Sullivan Award for Strategy and Innovation" in commercial aviation training in Asia Pacific as mentioned in this article.
Press Releases (29 June 2010)
The problem is that, other than this article from Mechtronix, I cannot find any other reference to such award when I do a Google Search.
Anybody can help me?
2007 must have been an "outstanding year" for AAG..... I wonder what happened to cause the colapse?"
"Is this article accurate or are there...... inaccuracies?
Alpha Aviation Group (AAG) to invest aggressively in Philippine aviation industry « Aviator Aero / Newswire
On the other hand, I would like to congratulate AAG for the prestigeous "2007 Frost & Sullivan Award for Strategy and Innovation" in commercial aviation training in Asia Pacific as mentioned in this article.
Press Releases (29 June 2010)
The problem is that, other than this article from Mechtronix, I cannot find any other reference to such award when I do a Google Search.
Anybody can help me?2007 must have been an "outstanding year" for AAG..... I wonder what happened to cause the colapse?"
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is AAg UAE 1st batch at AAPA not necessarily to graduate first? or ..
According to (below) these guys are the 1st batch of AAG UAE to graduate at AAPA, where are they now?
AAG UAE's First Batch of Graduates at AAPA | Facebook
I don't see any of them being one of the 7's first batch to graduate??
Air Arabia Graduation ceremony | Facebook
Correct me if i'm wrong!
AAG UAE's First Batch of Graduates at AAPA | Facebook
I don't see any of them being one of the 7's first batch to graduate??
Air Arabia Graduation ceremony | Facebook
Correct me if i'm wrong!
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70 hrs flying completed in Aussi and back to UAE for grd school and simulator training
Air Arabia base training complete and the proud holders of first GCAA MPL
even before the big guys like Emirates & Qatar can have MPL pilots... Air Arabia and AAG has done it..
Air Arabia base training complete and the proud holders of first GCAA MPL
even before the big guys like Emirates & Qatar can have MPL pilots... Air Arabia and AAG has done it..
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RP-COOO. Air Arabia and AAG has done it..
..They have done something RP. The GCAA has placed a ban on the intake of all new cadets until such time as a they address the corruption allegations regarding back dating of contracts (with new conditions) forced upon cadets who were 4 months into the program and already paid their tuition fees, the numerous allegations of allowed cheating during ground school exams and the non existence of a proper and thourough pre-entrance pilot aptitude testing regime.
Its been all about getting the tuition fees off parents, then AAG couldnt care less if it turns out some just arent suitable for flying.
These issues just wont go away until they are settled with the long suffering cadets and parents. Cheering the first batch going to AA (after taking more than 3 years to do an 18 month course) RP is adolescent, almost childlike in its naiveity.
These people need to be compensated.
Its been all about getting the tuition fees off parents, then AAG couldnt care less if it turns out some just arent suitable for flying.
These issues just wont go away until they are settled with the long suffering cadets and parents. Cheering the first batch going to AA (after taking more than 3 years to do an 18 month course) RP is adolescent, almost childlike in its naiveity.
These people need to be compensated.
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To all who complain & those waiting for a decision to make
To the moaners:
I reckon it is prudent that any wrongdoing of any sort, even if it is something trivial, should be reported to the person/entity responsible & as well to the authorities. Regardless of whether they react or not to it and/or fix it is secondary. The most important thing ‘FIRST’ is to report it, i.e. do your ‘due diligence’ part. Obviously so, the repercussions are very important & that is when you use forums like these to rally support. So whether you were a student, are one, or planning to be one, please go and report it first.
To the ones who are waiting for a decision to make about joining or not:
Personally me, I am close to an age where if I start flying I ‘might’ not get a job, I have an EXCELLENT paying job in my own field that I do like…but I do not have the cash to invest in flying… oh and by the way I would have to lose my job if I were to join AAG….BUT… I have a bug up my backside (that does not seem to die with any amount of insecticide) that keeps me awake at night ‘day dreaming’ about me being a pilot….
So I have decided to be patient (even though my age hasn’t paused)… I believe it is best to let the dust settle. Let’s observe what happens to the first batch AFTER their contracts with AA expire & until then what kind of contracts do the latter batches get. During this time AAG might start changing ‘stuff’. At the end of the day they are a business and would like to stay as such, therefore they WILL HAVE TO adjust themselves to avoid closure.
Air Asia is also contemplating opening an LCC here in Knoteetingham… so there will be job openings & Air Asia already has MPL grads…
So overall do the RIGHT thing, complain if you feel something is violating the laws, be it ethical or governmental. Also, if you feel something is wrong (for those who are waiting)… wait a bit more & see what happens, but yes, don’t wait too long, at the end of it all you have to risk something…
Lastly, I believe we are all grownups & its forums like these that provides us a platform to debate amongst us about everything, good, bad, truth or lies… so kudos to all of you, be you a supporter of AAG or otherwise & to you too, the silent observer …
Hopefully all our bickering here shall bear fruit one day & the next generation of hopeful cadets (which hopefully shall include me) will have a clearer path to tread.
Over and out.
I reckon it is prudent that any wrongdoing of any sort, even if it is something trivial, should be reported to the person/entity responsible & as well to the authorities. Regardless of whether they react or not to it and/or fix it is secondary. The most important thing ‘FIRST’ is to report it, i.e. do your ‘due diligence’ part. Obviously so, the repercussions are very important & that is when you use forums like these to rally support. So whether you were a student, are one, or planning to be one, please go and report it first.
To the ones who are waiting for a decision to make about joining or not:
Personally me, I am close to an age where if I start flying I ‘might’ not get a job, I have an EXCELLENT paying job in my own field that I do like…but I do not have the cash to invest in flying… oh and by the way I would have to lose my job if I were to join AAG….BUT… I have a bug up my backside (that does not seem to die with any amount of insecticide) that keeps me awake at night ‘day dreaming’ about me being a pilot….
So I have decided to be patient (even though my age hasn’t paused)… I believe it is best to let the dust settle. Let’s observe what happens to the first batch AFTER their contracts with AA expire & until then what kind of contracts do the latter batches get. During this time AAG might start changing ‘stuff’. At the end of the day they are a business and would like to stay as such, therefore they WILL HAVE TO adjust themselves to avoid closure.
Air Asia is also contemplating opening an LCC here in Knoteetingham… so there will be job openings & Air Asia already has MPL grads…
So overall do the RIGHT thing, complain if you feel something is violating the laws, be it ethical or governmental. Also, if you feel something is wrong (for those who are waiting)… wait a bit more & see what happens, but yes, don’t wait too long, at the end of it all you have to risk something…
Lastly, I believe we are all grownups & its forums like these that provides us a platform to debate amongst us about everything, good, bad, truth or lies… so kudos to all of you, be you a supporter of AAG or otherwise & to you too, the silent observer …
Hopefully all our bickering here shall bear fruit one day & the next generation of hopeful cadets (which hopefully shall include me) will have a clearer path to tread.
Over and out.
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In the first batch of cadets gone to Australia for their core flying there were 6 cadets. What has happened to the other two? What is your success ratio? Have the other 2 been removed while Alpha has pocketed their money?
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Just like to offer my congratulations to the graduating cadets. So pleasing to see so many from the first/second batch with their wings!
Well done for your tenacity and best of luck with your careers.
Mick B ex CGI
Well done for your tenacity and best of luck with your careers.
Mick B ex CGI
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That is a welcome news that GCAA orders that the ground school cannot recruit any more students for the time being. Well GCAA will act if cadets go to them with genuine grievances. How do they explain sending cadets back from Australia only after 32 hours of flying when they have paid Dh 150,000 for 80 hours of flight. No refund is made to them yet.
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@ Zone 2 Alt
Thank You Very much Captain Mick, You are in no doubt one of the best Ground instructors who handled our ground school training & examinations quiet to a high standard, you were there when we needed you & in no doubt MPL ground school wouldn't have been that rich if you were not there.
ThankYou for beleiving in us & training us
Guys, keep posting, the last thing I want to be is "Sarcastic", my flying is going on great (with full concentration) the same with my colleagues, what about yours?
@ bohd, calm down...don't post stuff until you are 100% sure of the GCAAs actions, AAG hasn't reached that far, & of course when you say freeze/stopping the training, this would include the whole training phases
but, pushing it all the way to Air Arabia & Line training sounds like...to be honest...Doubtful & in this case, I guess this applies to the rest of your post...Good RUMOUR though
ThankYou for beleiving in us & training us
Guys, keep posting, the last thing I want to be is "Sarcastic", my flying is going on great (with full concentration) the same with my colleagues, what about yours?
@ bohd, calm down...don't post stuff until you are 100% sure of the GCAAs actions, AAG hasn't reached that far, & of course when you say freeze/stopping the training, this would include the whole training phases
but, pushing it all the way to Air Arabia & Line training sounds like...to be honest...Doubtful & in this case, I guess this applies to the rest of your post...Good RUMOUR though
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marlim according to u anything that is said against Alpha is classified as a rumour? Is it a rumour that AAG has been stopped from holding any flying classes!
It is f**king embarrassing for a flight school to be banned from flying! And insteading me being honest and trying to solve the problem I have AAG officials saying that it was AAG's decision to send us to Australia! They are hiding the fact that GCAA has banned them from flying!
It is f**king embarrassing for a flight school to be banned from flying! And insteading me being honest and trying to solve the problem I have AAG officials saying that it was AAG's decision to send us to Australia! They are hiding the fact that GCAA has banned them from flying!
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@ honest pilot
My dear, Everything against Alpha/Air Arabia/GCAA/me is a RUMOUR to me until proven Real/True/otherwise...give me evidence I love PPRuNe
I know, as a matter of fact that, ever since the number of cadets has increased in 2011 & more core flying is required + the unsatisfactory performance of flight line (including the accidents/incidents) & the rate that the cadets were flying + costs...etc., AAGs plan was initially to transfer the training...FYI eversince I was in Clark (in 2010)...they were talking about it (the AAPA)...so, transferring the core flying out of the UAE & Philippines was the best idea/move being done & I personally envy the guys who were sent to AUS to fly (not only flying...this includes the Facilities & instructional Specs)...the transfer was going to happen ANYWAYS
I'm sorry to learn that the flight line has been Ordered to close down in UAE by the GCAA the last month(s)...to be honest...it was coming anyways, whether with accidents/incidents (GCAA) or even due to the demand (AAG)...So now...get me a flight school in the region that can compete with the AUS option
Thanks for being honest, see you in March
I love PPRuNeI know, as a matter of fact that, ever since the number of cadets has increased in 2011 & more core flying is required + the unsatisfactory performance of flight line (including the accidents/incidents) & the rate that the cadets were flying + costs...etc., AAGs plan was initially to transfer the training...FYI eversince I was in Clark (in 2010)...they were talking about it (the AAPA)...so, transferring the core flying out of the UAE & Philippines was the best idea/move being done & I personally envy the guys who were sent to AUS to fly (not only flying...this includes the Facilities & instructional Specs)...the transfer was going to happen ANYWAYS
I'm sorry to learn that the flight line has been Ordered to close down in UAE by the GCAA the last month(s)...to be honest...it was coming anyways, whether with accidents/incidents (GCAA) or even due to the demand (AAG)...So now...get me a flight school in the region that can compete with the AUS option
Thanks for being honest, see you in March
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If what ua re saying is true then AAG has been lying to me from the VERY start. During the interview they promised to me that the flying would take place in Shj. I made sure of it since I wanted to train in Shj. This gives me an advantage that I will be with my parents who can help me with stuff when needed so that I can concentrate on my flying. If I wanted to fly in Aus I would have joined AAPA from the very beginning.
In my opinion the fact that AAG has been banned from flying is embarrassing. Give me one flying school NOT owned by AAG that has been banned flying holding flying classes in their own home base. They have been closed down in clarke as well. Is this not all bad? Or is it only good because you have managed to finish off the course and no longer care what happens to the future of AAG.
The fact that GCAA has closed down the flying and entrance exams is NOT good. No matter how u try to defend it. I really wonder what AAPA must truly think of us!
Btw the photos a few posts above is from the second batch that went to Aus. Not first!
In my opinion the fact that AAG has been banned from flying is embarrassing. Give me one flying school NOT owned by AAG that has been banned flying holding flying classes in their own home base. They have been closed down in clarke as well. Is this not all bad? Or is it only good because you have managed to finish off the course and no longer care what happens to the future of AAG.
The fact that GCAA has closed down the flying and entrance exams is NOT good. No matter how u try to defend it. I really wonder what AAPA must truly think of us!
Btw the photos a few posts above is from the second batch that went to Aus. Not first!
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The photos of "Air Arabia Graduation ceremony" is the one of the First Batch, the second one (AAG UAE's First Batch of Graduates at AAPA) is the Picture of the SECOND I confirm
Let me see you when Air Arabia or any other Airline asks you to go to ABY Maroc or ABY Egypt or any other hub for Pilot Shortage...or for any other reason & you say "NO" or talk about promises, ever since I entered the Aviation Industry at the age of 16, I learned that...in this field...EVERYTHING is Flexible & unexpected, it is RISKY whether with AAG, AAPA or Any other Institution or Airline...any old Aviation guy will say that...including my Family...
It is embarrassing I know (The Closure of Flight Line)...but just nagging on that part & forgetting the fact of the AAPA alternative...would just sound strange
I care about the future of the CADETS & thus AAG, I have friends & Brothers in that Academy, I have instructors who teached me & made me the Man I wanted to be...I wanted to be here to tell you & all the others around...Don't be Pessimistic...stay Optimistic & if you are treated Badly or haven't received the training you paid for, let the GCAA know & the HOT know, Air Arabia won't accept a quality alteration...let them know too, they are approachable & reachable, after all, you will be helping...I have experienced it & it works great...just Pick the right words, timing & PLACE (The Magic will work)
Off to my Flight guys...this is a Tough week for the MPLers as we are the Pilots Flying all the way Outbound & Inbound
Let me see you when Air Arabia or any other Airline asks you to go to ABY Maroc or ABY Egypt or any other hub for Pilot Shortage...or for any other reason & you say "NO" or talk about promises
, ever since I entered the Aviation Industry at the age of 16, I learned that...in this field...EVERYTHING is Flexible & unexpected, it is RISKY whether with AAG, AAPA or Any other Institution or Airline...any old Aviation guy will say that...including my Family...It is embarrassing I know (The Closure of Flight Line)...but just nagging on that part & forgetting the fact of the AAPA alternative...would just sound strange
I care about the future of the CADETS & thus AAG, I have friends & Brothers in that Academy, I have instructors who teached me & made me the Man I wanted to be...I wanted to be here to tell you & all the others around...Don't be Pessimistic...stay Optimistic & if you are treated Badly or haven't received the training you paid for, let the GCAA know & the HOT know, Air Arabia won't accept a quality alteration...let them know too, they are approachable & reachable, after all, you will be helping...I have experienced it & it works great...just Pick the right words, timing & PLACE (The Magic will work)
Off to my Flight guys...this is a Tough week for the MPLers as we are the Pilots Flying all the way Outbound & Inbound
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The fact remains that GCAA closed down their ground school in Dec and Nov 2010 while cadets sat athome. There have been in the past cadets at ground school who were removed and not allowed to sit their third attempt. Two cadets have been sent back from Australia without cmpleting their 70 hours of flying. Cadets have been going to GCAA and complaing is a confirmed news. If Alpha wanted to voluntarily close their flightline then the cadets should have been informed at the time of joining.I was not. Now one cadet who has only two hours of flying left has to travel all the way to Australia to start flying all over again.
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Photos of Alpha Aviation Group | Facebook
if ther so many issues as you guys claim why would an airline like AirPhil Express co-brand their booth with AAG Ph...
Ask the guys in AAPA are they not better off to be flying and learning Australia compared to Sharjaha.. airlines make changes to the training plans, Airbus and Boeing issue updates on training requirments.
Change is the only constant in aviation either adapt or be left out !
if ther so many issues as you guys claim why would an airline like AirPhil Express co-brand their booth with AAG Ph...
Ask the guys in AAPA are they not better off to be flying and learning Australia compared to Sharjaha.. airlines make changes to the training plans, Airbus and Boeing issue updates on training requirments.
Change is the only constant in aviation either adapt or be left out !
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The guys who think that AAG decided to close their flying school out of their own accord should be shot!
Do any of u ave any common sense? I for one doubt it!
There were 4 students in the flight training in Shj as far as i know. 2 of them were just about to finish their flying! they only had 2 hours left. Now my friends have to go all the way to Australia to fly! Which school will do that? If they wanted to close thier flying school they would have done it after these students had finished their hours not done it when they had 2 hours left! AAG is LOSING money by sending these students to Aus. No business wants to lose money unless they have been forced to!
Please face these facts and not deny it because u do not want to admit that the school we have chosen sucks!
Do any of u ave any common sense? I for one doubt it!
There were 4 students in the flight training in Shj as far as i know. 2 of them were just about to finish their flying! they only had 2 hours left. Now my friends have to go all the way to Australia to fly! Which school will do that? If they wanted to close thier flying school they would have done it after these students had finished their hours not done it when they had 2 hours left! AAG is LOSING money by sending these students to Aus. No business wants to lose money unless they have been forced to!
Please face these facts and not deny it because u do not want to admit that the school we have chosen sucks!
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The same point I am trying to put across that why will any school close their flight line in the middle of their training when cadets have only 2 hours left. To gain reputation of a good academy you have to earn the good will of the cadets and not get their management and staff fill the prune with fase information.