New Emirates Road Show Dates & Destinations
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Emirate Education Allowance?
• Education Support Allowance
Financial support towards the payment of core tuition fees is provided to staff in more senior positions. It is intended as a contribution towards the overall expenses the employee may incur for their children’s education.
Does this mean that they are no longer giving pilot's an education allowance for their children?
Thanks.
Financial support towards the payment of core tuition fees is provided to staff in more senior positions. It is intended as a contribution towards the overall expenses the employee may incur for their children’s education.
Does this mean that they are no longer giving pilot's an education allowance for their children?
Thanks.
so what you are saying is that its ok for EK to change your contract as long as its good for you.
I'm sure if you let them know you don't agree to payrises, they'd be only to happy to keep them!
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The education allowance is exactly that, an allowance towards your child's education. Up to 3 for expats, 4 for UAE nationals. Different limit depending on which school year but always a minimum of 10% from you.
Apparently, this 10% from the employee is to make us feel emotionally better that we are contributing directly to our own kids future. How thoughtful of them, and we all thought Emirates didn't care.
If you decide to use an American curriculum school, be prepared fo a larger emotional contribution!
Harry
Apparently, this 10% from the employee is to make us feel emotionally better that we are contributing directly to our own kids future. How thoughtful of them, and we all thought Emirates didn't care.
If you decide to use an American curriculum school, be prepared fo a larger emotional contribution! Harry
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If you are American and thinking about bringing your kids to Dubai be prepared to spend around 36,000 dhs per student for young kids.
Most American schools are around 70,000 dhs per year and EK only pays 34,000 up to grade 5. Even EK pilots can do the math.
Most American schools are around 70,000 dhs per year and EK only pays 34,000 up to grade 5. Even EK pilots can do the math.
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Apparently, this 10% from the employee is to make us feel emotionally better that we are contributing directly to our own kids future. How thoughtful of them, and we all thought Emirates didn't care.
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Gatwick today?
Was wondering if there are any of you that went along today to Gatwick. Was it a purely a PR exercise to whet peoples appetite to apply or were there good bits of info for potential hires?
I read that they may look at licenses and logbooks etc, did they do that today?
Ultimately it won't matter, I'm going to the STN one tomorrow but wondered if it was anything more than a presentation, in which case I need to make sure I have everything with me!
I read that they may look at licenses and logbooks etc, did they do that today?
Ultimately it won't matter, I'm going to the STN one tomorrow but wondered if it was anything more than a presentation, in which case I need to make sure I have everything with me!
short flights long nights
let me think.....no..(check the website)
I went to the roadshow in MAD last weekend....doesn´t look like they´ll have problems filling the 700 or so vacancies. They had 110 odd pilots turn up.
The presentation was fairly slick (once it got going) and I was ready to ask some fairly sticky questions about various allowances being capped, etc. To be fair, the recruiters covered it themselves, and did emphasise that it is a big commitment to up sticks and live in DXB. About 4 guys stood up and walked out when they put the slide detailing the salaries up.
I´m guessing about 50% of the pilots there were unemployed ( Air Nostrum, etc) and the rest were like me, employed, but nosey. It made me realise that the grass isn´t always greener, and if you are going to be an expat pilot, I´d sooner work in the UK ,and live in Spain.
The presentation was fairly slick (once it got going) and I was ready to ask some fairly sticky questions about various allowances being capped, etc. To be fair, the recruiters covered it themselves, and did emphasise that it is a big commitment to up sticks and live in DXB. About 4 guys stood up and walked out when they put the slide detailing the salaries up.
I´m guessing about 50% of the pilots there were unemployed ( Air Nostrum, etc) and the rest were like me, employed, but nosey. It made me realise that the grass isn´t always greener, and if you are going to be an expat pilot, I´d sooner work in the UK ,and live in Spain.
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I'm going to attend one of these road pow-wows to see if any of the issues raised on Pprune will be addressed.
Honestly, all they have to do is hold 2 or 3 of these things in the US. There are thousands of high time unemployed pilots there.
Honestly, all they have to do is hold 2 or 3 of these things in the US. There are thousands of high time unemployed pilots there.
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I too will attend one of these "information sessions" to compare it to the one I attended in the US in December 2007. It will be nice to see if they address items raised by the thousands of pprune posts.
Did manage to acquire a recruitment DVD back then, that a previous poster referred to. Don't know if they still have them or not.
Did manage to acquire a recruitment DVD back then, that a previous poster referred to. Don't know if they still have them or not.
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Guys and Girls,
If anyone has been to one of these shows on here I would be extremely grateful if you could PM me with some of or all the info that was shared during the meetings.
I've been really wanting to get to one of these in the UK but have not been able to due to flying.
Thanks a lot, it would be much appreciated.
Cheers
CB
If anyone has been to one of these shows on here I would be extremely grateful if you could PM me with some of or all the info that was shared during the meetings.
I've been really wanting to get to one of these in the UK but have not been able to due to flying.
Thanks a lot, it would be much appreciated.
Cheers
CB
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Barcelona road show
Went to the EK show in BCN last weekend, was well attended, around 40 nervous-looking Spaniards and a handful of Brits.
Opened with a question - 'anyone from EZY or RYR?' answer 'no'
Then a presentation about EK, why they are so good, history, etc.
Benefits of EK - career stability, young fleet, expanding network, growth and expansion, all-inclusive salary package
4.5 to 5 years to command
Details of selection process - well covered on pprune elsewhere
All courses for rest of year are 777 except 2 airbus courses
40 joined last week, 16 this week, courses every week until mid-2011
They want your application yesterday, if you meet the requirements (which are not set in stone - I heard them tell one guy they wanted 'preferably' 2500 hours multipilot time) you will be called next day for interview !
A non-recruitment 'real' pilot talked about type rating and company induction, line training, rostering and bidding processes (covered elsewhere on pprune)
He said no swaps possible at the moment, usually 10-14 days off a month but min of 8.
Generally unhappy with roster 2 months out of 5
Talked about trip length - 1 day trips up to 9-day trips, mostly 24hour layovers
High standard of hotac
meal allowances in local currency, not as high as European usuals, examples of DUS 120Euro Columbo 30Euro
42 days leave, but only 30 guaranteed, any unused carried over to next year
Everything done in EK by computer
Life generally frustrating in terms of getting things done
Talked about salary, FO and Capt
Annual increment, not guaranteed
Pilots not happy about high hour months, at moment >85 hours per month
Talked about accomodation options and allowances, education allowance, bond, location of EK villas being allocated at the moment is Silicon Oasis, they have the keys waiting for new joiners
Talked about medical, free cover for self, spouse is 440Euro pa, kids 160Euro pa each
Exchange rate protection for 50% of salary
Profit share, not guaranteed
Provident fund - need 7 years service to get the 'lot'
They pay for: uniform, LOL, sick pay 12 months, free dry cleaning, chauffer driven to work in company Audi by a suicidal Indian or Pakistani
Talked about DXB: safe, family-friendly, not old-fashioned idea of cutting off your hands for anything worse than stealing, no problems of drugs or violence, good level of education ("outstanding"), interesting flight deck experience (85 nationalities), biggest shopping mall in the world, indoor skiing, luxurious lifestyle (maids, beaches, don't have to pump your own gas!!!)
What to do in DXB: beach, resto, cine, sport, 4x4 driving, shops, parks
EPC
Cost of living - gas 1.44 Euro a gallon, 2.50Euro for 1L of milk, 2Euro for 5L of H20, cinema 6.65 Euro, car 23K Euros (Ford Explorer)
Details of salary and flying pay, etc etc all covered in other threads but basically:
FO salary 24110 AED (according to them 5330Euro) tax free + flying pay 10Euro per hour
hope this is useful
strangestranger
Opened with a question - 'anyone from EZY or RYR?' answer 'no'
Then a presentation about EK, why they are so good, history, etc.
Benefits of EK - career stability, young fleet, expanding network, growth and expansion, all-inclusive salary package
4.5 to 5 years to command
Details of selection process - well covered on pprune elsewhere
All courses for rest of year are 777 except 2 airbus courses
40 joined last week, 16 this week, courses every week until mid-2011
They want your application yesterday, if you meet the requirements (which are not set in stone - I heard them tell one guy they wanted 'preferably' 2500 hours multipilot time) you will be called next day for interview !
A non-recruitment 'real' pilot talked about type rating and company induction, line training, rostering and bidding processes (covered elsewhere on pprune)
He said no swaps possible at the moment, usually 10-14 days off a month but min of 8.
Generally unhappy with roster 2 months out of 5
Talked about trip length - 1 day trips up to 9-day trips, mostly 24hour layovers
High standard of hotac
meal allowances in local currency, not as high as European usuals, examples of DUS 120Euro Columbo 30Euro
42 days leave, but only 30 guaranteed, any unused carried over to next year
Everything done in EK by computer
Life generally frustrating in terms of getting things done
Talked about salary, FO and Capt
Annual increment, not guaranteed
Pilots not happy about high hour months, at moment >85 hours per month
Talked about accomodation options and allowances, education allowance, bond, location of EK villas being allocated at the moment is Silicon Oasis, they have the keys waiting for new joiners
Talked about medical, free cover for self, spouse is 440Euro pa, kids 160Euro pa each
Exchange rate protection for 50% of salary
Profit share, not guaranteed
Provident fund - need 7 years service to get the 'lot'
They pay for: uniform, LOL, sick pay 12 months, free dry cleaning, chauffer driven to work in company Audi by a suicidal Indian or Pakistani
Talked about DXB: safe, family-friendly, not old-fashioned idea of cutting off your hands for anything worse than stealing, no problems of drugs or violence, good level of education ("outstanding"), interesting flight deck experience (85 nationalities), biggest shopping mall in the world, indoor skiing, luxurious lifestyle (maids, beaches, don't have to pump your own gas!!!)
What to do in DXB: beach, resto, cine, sport, 4x4 driving, shops, parks
EPC
Cost of living - gas 1.44 Euro a gallon, 2.50Euro for 1L of milk, 2Euro for 5L of H20, cinema 6.65 Euro, car 23K Euros (Ford Explorer)
Details of salary and flying pay, etc etc all covered in other threads but basically:
FO salary 24110 AED (according to them 5330Euro) tax free + flying pay 10Euro per hour
hope this is useful
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Hello
I just read on one of the national newspaper of my country that Emirates is going to have an information session here.
It was talking about the big hiring plan of pilots and cabin crew.
On the side there was an interviev to an anoninimous pilot of what was once the national carrier now privatised that is thinking of joining.
He say Emirates salary are thebest in the world and the working condition much better then its present actual long haul pilot position ahome and he will became a captain in two to three years in EK.
It seem to me from reading this forum that EK pilots fly 94 hrs per months long haul and night flying to India and back. I have friend there on the Airbus and when I meet him recently after a few years he joined he changed phisionomy.... I almost could not recognize him!! From what I read here I think and what he tell me upgrade should take from five to seven years at least and DEC is just around the corner. This friend of mine also told me the strange story of a friend that cause of house issue quit. I was quite shocked. What I shuold believe?
I just read on one of the national newspaper of my country that Emirates is going to have an information session here.
It was talking about the big hiring plan of pilots and cabin crew.
On the side there was an interviev to an anoninimous pilot of what was once the national carrier now privatised that is thinking of joining.
He say Emirates salary are thebest in the world and the working condition much better then its present actual long haul pilot position ahome and he will became a captain in two to three years in EK.
It seem to me from reading this forum that EK pilots fly 94 hrs per months long haul and night flying to India and back. I have friend there on the Airbus and when I meet him recently after a few years he joined he changed phisionomy.... I almost could not recognize him!! From what I read here I think and what he tell me upgrade should take from five to seven years at least and DEC is just around the corner. This friend of mine also told me the strange story of a friend that cause of house issue quit. I was quite shocked. What I shuold believe?
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