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Old 15th May 2010, 06:36
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Here here, Taylor.
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Old 15th May 2010, 11:09
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MM,

The problem with your arguments is that you attempt to sidestep the morality issue completely, as conveniently twisting your logic as any good EK manager to suit your purposes. You state that companies operate solely on legalities, but then claim sainthood for your own while attempting to vilify the evil American ones. Well, which is it? Is morality removed or not? Your own arguments lack not only substance but logic.

There ARE no correct channels in the UAE. There is no credible legal system. So there will always be more subversive methods of dissent under such regimes. PPrune is just one of the more entertaining ones - but there are others. The best service PPrune provides is ensuring those with a bit of intelligence will think a bit before swallowing your lies.

I do appreciate your highlighting the whole problem with Emirates' shockingly bad approach to risk management. As usual you are relying on the fact that a negative can't be proven: there's been no smoking hole yet so running crews to limits (which were unilaterally raised by the company) must be fine! It violates the entire concept of trying to keep operations as far away from the edge of the safety envelope as possible - EK seems intent on going the other direction, seeing how far things can go before they break. I guess the only way to find out is wait until that point has been crossed. Crude and tragic, but hey that's quite apropos to Dubai I suppose!

I only hope that you get a chance to experience the fallout of that inevitable day, with a little luck you'll be on board the aircraft. But that's probably too much to hope for.

Just a suggestion...talk of "passing you on the way up" only reveals your arrogance and projects your feelings of inferiority. The UAE will never be even a shadow of what it envies, because what you want to be cannot be bought or stolen. You don't even really understand it and never will.
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Old 15th May 2010, 12:46
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S.Staynes,

I totally agree with you on the fatigue issue. It is frightening how tcas seems to want to discredit all the asr's received via the weekly scribe. Also if you look at the asr's in that weekly thing we get, all fatigue reports are generally listed as 'low threat'!?!?! If they care two sh!ts about flight safety as they claim to then they have a funny way of showing it.

It smacks of amateur management, fire fighting what is a dire situation, brought on by p!ss poor management and greed.
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Old 15th May 2010, 13:45
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What MM and other managers around here seem to forget is that Aviation regulations, FTL's and policies are written in blood. They are the condensed wisdom and experience gained from many accidents, incidents and ultimately loss of life.
While they can bend and manipulate standards and recommended procedures every which way on a daily basis, someday there will be a price to pay for their casual attitude to industry best practice and regulation.
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Old 15th May 2010, 21:30
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Mr Management bottom lotion,

I know for a fact you're real EK management, how do I know? That's because having worked for EK for a good while I know that what your peddling is completely consistent with the message which comes out of the HR remuneration machine.

Unfortunatley whilst you believe that EK is consistently recruiting the people it needs and wants, I think you need to look around at your outposts. More and more staff there are joining unions, why because they are sick of being shafted over a barrel (not a firkin one neither).

I read about Dnata buying the Plane Handling division of Go Ahead in the UK before xmas 2009. Those hundreds of ground handling staff at LHR, MAN & LGW are all union represented and will not take terms and conditions changes being brought in through the back door lightly. Mark my word its only a matter of time before this company starts to see serious industrial action taking place. The growth makes it inevitable.

Why are us pilots not allowed basings outside of DXB? Simple, forget all the arguments, its primarily because EK management are s*it scared we'll join unions and disrupt ops.

The tide is turning though, the word is out, EK is not the place is was 10 years ago. I've tried to take a balanced view of things over the years but so much has happened in the last two in terms of T&C changes, there is little loyalty left amongs flight deck crew. I'm sure we'll see this with other staff too.

Like I said in that earlier post, that pathetic 3 week payout was simply the company returning the money staff lost through unpaid leave/extra unpaid hours.

The money bucket is low and the sh*t bucket reaching capacity....
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Old 15th May 2010, 22:44
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Get over yourselves! Please!

There are company and legal channels. Most are too stupid or too busy moaning to actually do anything. Collectively you could not agree to get drunk together!

The "inevitable" accident is no more likely than with any other operator. That one is wearing a bit thin.

As for the blabber about some sort of industrial action. That will be more entertainment than we have had for a long time. I give it 24 hours and everyone will creep back to work with their tails between their legs.

Does anyone have anything intelligent or original to say?

P.S. Feel free to take all the fuel you wish and use reversers as you see fit. I doubt your little "preservation" routine will do much to change anything. Most do what is expected.
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Old 16th May 2010, 02:41
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MM,

I am not managment, nor do I aspire to be.

I am just another "pee-on" pilot, much like the ones who have been berating you on this thread.

As much as it pains me to admit it, you are bang on with everything you have said.
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Old 16th May 2010, 06:10
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With his last post, MM is obviously not of any significant position. Aggressive and crude. No appreciation, no respect for fellow workers. Close the thread. Yawn.
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Old 16th May 2010, 06:41
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I feel like a broken record repating this, but this MM guy is firmly yanking your (collective) chains.

By the look of things, some of you are taking the bait, hook line and sinker

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Old 16th May 2010, 07:41
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Of course he is yanking our chains- there is no way EK management would post on PPrune- although I'm damn sure they are aware of what is on here.

The sad thing is everything the guy writes is absolutely spot on.
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Old 16th May 2010, 19:42
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EK Makes Bonus

Hey Guys

Don't forget the massive redundancy and demotions that were made by EK in the last 9 months. They sacked over 600 people in IT, similar numbers at the airport not to mention DNATA Agencies where 100's were sent home without a single note.

I challenge any executive to refute these facts and make a statement on oath that EK Group did not fir some many Asians.

Check the number of down gradings that have been done by them in all areas managed by GC and his cronies.
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Old 16th May 2010, 19:49
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EK BONUS and Press release

I am surprised at the fact that they make tall claims about staff being their biggest asset. What a Shame that they do not accept the fact that massive redundancy took place in Group Services Departments and DNATA Agencies as well as Airport. Not content with that they embarked on a aggressive down grading project.

Shameless is it not.

Let them make a statement that there were no redundancies of permanent staff and that too who had put in over 10 to 15 years of service.
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Old 17th May 2010, 15:00
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Guys have you noticed an improvement in your roster?
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Old 17th May 2010, 17:48
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Absolutely! Only 91 hard hours this month! Feels like Christmas!

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Old 17th May 2010, 19:52
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I'm so lucky my wife has let my kids go on face book. Now I get to talk to them more often.

When I'm at "home", all I do is sleep. . . . zzzzzzzzzzz

80 odd hours this month with 9 days leave.

Living the dream.

Gotta wake up soon.
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Old 18th May 2010, 13:56
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Nothing ever really changes around here....

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Old 18th May 2010, 14:52
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I Could not stop laughing....keep up the good job.
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Old 18th May 2010, 15:21
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Excellent, loved it!
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Old 19th May 2010, 04:15
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I know what position MM has. He's cabin crew. And a bitter one at that.
Responding to his BS is a waste of time. Ignore him and soon enough you will find his rantings will become less frequent. By responding to his idiotic postings you guys are enabling the moron.
Just ignore the little man.........
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Old 19th May 2010, 20:29
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Off the thread
I have heard guys hitting their 900 hours and the company moving their vacation foreward and forcing vacation, since they can't fly them. Anyone else hear this?
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