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Old 19th May 2016, 09:16
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Do you have an EASA license? You have to understand that it will become essential as Turkey is in the process of getting into it. Just to let you know a few years back pilot were given very short notice to get one and terminated for not being able to comply....a la turca!
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Old 19th May 2016, 11:38
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@bob777,

Hmmm... I don't have EASA licence😓 I guess it's gonna be tough for me to secure a job in Turkish then!!
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Old 19th May 2016, 14:24
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You can probably get a job..but you will soon need an EASA license.
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Old 20th May 2016, 06:38
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bob777 You can probably get a job..but you will soon need an EASA license.
Hi,
Seems u r right...but im a bit confused, they are accepting ICAO as well, so someone applies FO - NTR with ICAO cpl(like me) .... Then they will send us for type training....here is the question, to fly the THY we need TURKISH CPL, so are they going to convert our CPL to TURKISH(ICAO) CPL, AND then endorse the new rating on it???? Or first they ask us to convert to TURKISH or JAR/EASA ?

I'm a bit confused about the proccess.....any idea?
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Old 20th May 2016, 14:51
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EASA

What are you talking about ? TK gonna be EASA ? never
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Old 20th May 2016, 15:19
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What are you talking about ? TK gonna be EASA ? never
Yes, EASA is supposed for EU members only,
But it seems they have forced many pilots to obtain a JAR or EASA or anything european :-)) by a deadline, otherwise THY will terminate the contract.
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Old 20th May 2016, 15:30
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I've just had an assessment there and no mention ever that I have to convert my ICAO to EASA. .
And talking to the local crew before it happens you'll probably be up for retirement by then....
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Old 20th May 2016, 16:26
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January 2018 THY will have to be fully EASA compliant. OPS manual already EASA OPS , TRTO in the process of being approved you will definitely need an EASA license within 24/36 months. Italian stallion... if you believe what they tell you at the screening you must have a lot of testosterone but not much of a brain. HR has been constantly lying for years now...they have no ethics they'll tell you anything to fill seats...and make the boss happy..
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Old 20th May 2016, 23:56
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Bob...

Emirates (and I believe the other ME carriers) is supposed to also be EASA compliant at some date (forget when) but they are not required to get EASA licensing. Why is Turkish different?

Are the current group of DGCA licensed pilots at TK licensed by EASA or will they all have to convert?

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Old 21st May 2016, 04:01
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THY up to not long ago accepted only EASA licensed. Later seen the lack of candidates due to the horrible reputation in dealing with expatriate pilot..they re opened to ICAO. Turks are about to get Visa free travel and to have re opened a few chapters for EU accession. ..UAE is not. Many already went trough the 17 exams and SIM check...
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Old 21st May 2016, 09:27
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Just getting travel visa's will not be a reason for THY to require EASA. With the current political situation, a good number of European Union countries are not willing to let Turkey into the Union at this point, so again I can't see THY requiring an EASA license. In an environment of supply and demand, the demand for qualified pilots is pretty high all around the world and changing this within 18 months would devastate THY's growth to 450 aircraft.

Also, the last time THY started to required the EASA license, as I understand it, they rescinded that requirement just before it actually started but not before many of the expats left for other positions. So that was not coming from the EASA authorities or else it would have indeed become a permanent fixture and future requirement for every pilot coming to THY. I do not have an EASA license after being hired last year.

Lastly, with the total of 450 aircraft as the aiming point for THY and currently standing at about 305, I believe they realise if they required everyone to get an EASA license, it would further dry up an already low number of qualified applicants and they literally couldn't grow the airline the way they want to. Requiring an EASA license in a year and a half would just destroy the airline's growth strategy.

While we all could get an email first thing Monday morning saying EASA licensing will be required asap, I honestly just don't see it happening anytime in the next 4-5 years minimum while the hometown airline is growing leaps and bounds.

I could be wrong though..... :-)

Respectfully....

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Old 21st May 2016, 11:39
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Kptltnt...I think you a tad misinformed. EASA is already the reference of all internal docs and FCL and FTL are due within max 2 years.There is plenty of EASA licensed pilots available..the point is giving the right T&Cs.
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Old 21st May 2016, 16:56
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T&Cs?

Must definitely have been a 737 crew ..when you fly 110 hours every month vast majority ,3/4 sectors a day and quite a bit at night...with minimum days off a ridiculous leave you start to see the lights...



UFO with green lights passed over our plane, say Turkish pilots - LOCAL

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Old 21st May 2016, 18:15
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317 aircrafts at the moment
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Old 22nd May 2016, 00:12
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Thanks for the info Bob.

Can you please tell me your source where it says that all Turkish Airlines pilots will be required to have an EASA license within the 2 year max... or the Jan 2018 you mentioned earlier?

Thanks

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Old 22nd May 2016, 17:32
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110 every month,please.
Got the last few months schedule of a 737 cpt,,,,averaging 73 hrs and 20-24 sectors.
Difficult hours,very much so,starting at 2 am to then start at 2 pm the next flight,flying to problematic countries and borderline unsafe yes...but thats boeing...320s have a much sweeter deal.
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Old 23rd May 2016, 07:03
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How many different airlines are in THY? This makes no sense unless each has his own contract.I think you got FO rosters...CPT are always in the high 90s..8 day off..the rest you said it your self. 320 may be better destinations on average..but still same figures...
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Old 23rd May 2016, 09:17
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bob,no its a 737 capt roster for the last 6 months.
How can you say a cpt flies always high 90?not technically possible anyways..1000 max/year so if you count out of 12 months, that would be a max average of 83,,if you take a month off...thats 91.
Basic maths really.
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Old 23rd May 2016, 12:18
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De facto why don't you post those schedules then we can all see and make an informed decision!!!
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Old 23rd May 2016, 14:38
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De Facto with all due respect..you have been THY advocate since a long time. I think disseminating false information is not a good strategy. Everybody knows that B737 in THY is a life shortener max flight time minimum rest and minimum days off with multiple dodgy destinations to include multiple sectors night flight to dark Africa and some security critical ones. Add to this 13/14 layover and the picture is clear. Turks just can't see the time to move to another type and expat have been leaving in droves. Everybody is flying 1000 hours per year..many had to take one month off unpaid beside the whopping 20 days of leave that you don't get the first year anyway. It would be much better to try improve what is probably the worse deal around to attract more people than to lie and have pissed off pilots ruining righteously THY reputation once they find out the truth..

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