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*Why Turkish?
*Tell us something you don't like about your current airline?
*Why leaving current airline?
Mostly basic interview questions that are not difficult with a bit of preparation. Would also suggest knowing a bit about the company, growth plans aircraft orders etc.
It was the easiest thing for me during the 3 day process, but I was quite prepared.
Good luck.
Kap
*Why Turkish?
*Tell us something you don't like about your current airline?
*Why leaving current airline?
Mostly basic interview questions that are not difficult with a bit of preparation. Would also suggest knowing a bit about the company, growth plans aircraft orders etc.
It was the easiest thing for me during the 3 day process, but I was quite prepared.
Good luck.
Kap
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What about the A330
Hey guys, kind of new here...
Just wondering what about the conditions for an A330 Senior First Officer?
Type rated and thinking to apply, and commuting.
Thank you in advance
Just wondering what about the conditions for an A330 Senior First Officer?
Type rated and thinking to apply, and commuting.
Thank you in advance
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They not really concerned how much experience you have. As long as you a FO then you just a captains B........... and treated like you know nothing.
Horrible mix of military and religion, no communication skills what so ever if they have a problem. They put on a good road show etc but in reality it's the worst place I have even had the misfortune of working.
If you a senior FO in your company just stay there and get a command, you probably won't get one at Turkish.
Horrible mix of military and religion, no communication skills what so ever if they have a problem. They put on a good road show etc but in reality it's the worst place I have even had the misfortune of working.
If you a senior FO in your company just stay there and get a command, you probably won't get one at Turkish.
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@moises.araujom:
Within Turkish you only have FO's divided in P5, P4 and P3. You will fly about 80-90 hours a month. You can arrange 4 days off at the end of the month and 4 days off at the beginning of the next month, so 8 days in a row.
Within Turkish you only have FO's divided in P5, P4 and P3. You will fly about 80-90 hours a month. You can arrange 4 days off at the end of the month and 4 days off at the beginning of the next month, so 8 days in a row.
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Bob777,
Seen you have removed your previous reaction, I consider you are still working for THY. That must be really sad and pathetic, you must have a terrible, horrible, awful life. If I think the way you leave your home to go to your flight, it must be a disaster for you. You are complaining all the time, but still working in Turkey. As you said, probably you like to be their bitch.
Like you, all the other complaining colleagues, if it's a **** to work for THY, why still there and not somewhere else!?!? You have the experience, so go to another company. If someone left THY and complaining and trying to warn others, I can understand that, and you have the right to warn others, but when you're still working for THY and complaining, you must be a fool
Seen you have removed your previous reaction, I consider you are still working for THY. That must be really sad and pathetic, you must have a terrible, horrible, awful life. If I think the way you leave your home to go to your flight, it must be a disaster for you. You are complaining all the time, but still working in Turkey. As you said, probably you like to be their bitch.
Like you, all the other complaining colleagues, if it's a **** to work for THY, why still there and not somewhere else!?!? You have the experience, so go to another company. If someone left THY and complaining and trying to warn others, I can understand that, and you have the right to warn others, but when you're still working for THY and complaining, you must be a fool
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Hey guys, did the Turkish NTR DEC interview 2014.
Agency was horrible prepared, same was Turkish. I had a first interview date, 1(!!) day before leaving they decided to cancel and to shift me back by one week because they had to many candidates they told me.
Ok, off for a good start with this clowns.
1 week later , flight down to IST. Pay taxi by yourself to the hotel(hotel was nice and paid by THY).
Next day to one of their crappy training centers(most likely for turkish standards they are average or even good) doing this group CRM exercises. Nothing special really, just participate but do not try to take over the group. Pretty basic actually, I was surprised how many pilots still don't know how you have to play this BS.
Later that day they do a very rough documents check(I brought all my 12 logbooks, they never touched them). More or less having a look at you license, medical, maybe some reference letter if you have them(I did).
I guess around 50% of us made it on day 1. You get notified by email if you move on.
Day 2, Sim. Was prepared to go on a FFS like all the rated guys did, but then surprisingly they took our NTR bunch to the side and brought us to a conference room.
3 THY guys started to brief us, 3 Minutes later(!!!) we were done and got moved on a FBS(fixed base) which had serious issue. You can say it was a flight training device because it was impossible to trim that thing so it would fly stable for more then 1 second. Of course no autopilot.
So, I was curving my way out of IST(I think, can be as well Ankara, not sure anymore), swimming
direction some VOR to enter a raw data holding.
Fine so far, but this 3 guys (1 was assisting) talking all the time in Turkish, if you asked for some help or if he should do something he missed it most of the time because he was busy chatting to his mates. Well, at the end I did everything by myself(this guys must be CRM instructors
), still passed this hell ride with this clowns.
Made my way out of the even scrappier THY Sim center (maybe I am spoiled from European Standards, my bad), grapped a taxi to the hotel and waited for that expected negative email. No, I made it, day 3 is coming (yay).
Last day, chat with the board(3 guys/girls), doing again the ususal board interview why you would join, why leaving your old company(I did ask myself the same question at this stage, honestly
) and so on.
You pass that then you get offered the THY contract, they ask as well how fast you are able to leave your current employer.
I told them I had to check back with my employer and come back to them.
All in all I can agree with some of the comments above, this airline makes a not very good impression, especially CRM wise and I was actually worried to have some of this "instructors" from my sim ride later on during my linetraining.
Apart from that you have to deal with Istanbul itself and if you bring your family there. I guess some of the Longrange guys got some quiet good offer with better commuting options, but the short range just sucks(A320/B737).
You guessed right, I never joined them and stayed with my current employer. I do not think it is a wise choice to leave a European company to join THY.
Of course if you are unemployed, trying to move up from the ME and being a long range skipper with plenty of experience doing a good deal with them, then THY is an option.
Turkish mentality is very different, even compared to most ME airlines. In the ME you are needed for life(if you can stand it), Turkish is more a Korean type of "gig". They do not really want you there but are depending at the moment on expats. But you see that they always prefer their own people and will most likely try to make it more difficult for you.
A bit behind culture with a airline dominated by former military pilots - the mix makes a nice combination.
To be CLEAR - I did a lot of flights with former european military pilots(French,UK,German,Austrian), most of them nice chaps and a pleasure to fly with. I do not talk about military pilots in general, it just turkish military guys which make(made) me worry and reconsider.
Good luck to anybody who is up for this challenge - I do not envy you.
Agency was horrible prepared, same was Turkish. I had a first interview date, 1(!!) day before leaving they decided to cancel and to shift me back by one week because they had to many candidates they told me.
Ok, off for a good start with this clowns.
1 week later , flight down to IST. Pay taxi by yourself to the hotel(hotel was nice and paid by THY).
Next day to one of their crappy training centers(most likely for turkish standards they are average or even good) doing this group CRM exercises. Nothing special really, just participate but do not try to take over the group. Pretty basic actually, I was surprised how many pilots still don't know how you have to play this BS.
Later that day they do a very rough documents check(I brought all my 12 logbooks, they never touched them). More or less having a look at you license, medical, maybe some reference letter if you have them(I did).
I guess around 50% of us made it on day 1. You get notified by email if you move on.
Day 2, Sim. Was prepared to go on a FFS like all the rated guys did, but then surprisingly they took our NTR bunch to the side and brought us to a conference room.
3 THY guys started to brief us, 3 Minutes later(!!!) we were done and got moved on a FBS(fixed base) which had serious issue. You can say it was a flight training device because it was impossible to trim that thing so it would fly stable for more then 1 second. Of course no autopilot.
So, I was curving my way out of IST(I think, can be as well Ankara, not sure anymore), swimming
direction some VOR to enter a raw data holding. Fine so far, but this 3 guys (1 was assisting) talking all the time in Turkish, if you asked for some help or if he should do something he missed it most of the time because he was busy chatting to his mates. Well, at the end I did everything by myself(this guys must be CRM instructors
), still passed this hell ride with this clowns.Made my way out of the even scrappier THY Sim center (maybe I am spoiled from European Standards, my bad), grapped a taxi to the hotel and waited for that expected negative email. No, I made it, day 3 is coming (yay).
Last day, chat with the board(3 guys/girls), doing again the ususal board interview why you would join, why leaving your old company(I did ask myself the same question at this stage, honestly
) and so on.You pass that then you get offered the THY contract, they ask as well how fast you are able to leave your current employer.
I told them I had to check back with my employer and come back to them.
All in all I can agree with some of the comments above, this airline makes a not very good impression, especially CRM wise and I was actually worried to have some of this "instructors" from my sim ride later on during my linetraining.
Apart from that you have to deal with Istanbul itself and if you bring your family there. I guess some of the Longrange guys got some quiet good offer with better commuting options, but the short range just sucks(A320/B737).
You guessed right, I never joined them and stayed with my current employer. I do not think it is a wise choice to leave a European company to join THY.
Of course if you are unemployed, trying to move up from the ME and being a long range skipper with plenty of experience doing a good deal with them, then THY is an option.
Turkish mentality is very different, even compared to most ME airlines. In the ME you are needed for life(if you can stand it), Turkish is more a Korean type of "gig". They do not really want you there but are depending at the moment on expats. But you see that they always prefer their own people and will most likely try to make it more difficult for you.
A bit behind culture with a airline dominated by former military pilots - the mix makes a nice combination.
To be CLEAR - I did a lot of flights with former european military pilots(French,UK,German,Austrian), most of them nice chaps and a pleasure to fly with. I do not talk about military pilots in general, it just turkish military guys which make(made) me worry and reconsider.
Good luck to anybody who is up for this challenge - I do not envy you.
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It is interesting to read all these 'horrible' experiences in THY. Please allow me to state a different opinion and describe more pleasant experiences.
For your reference I am not Turkish. Coming in THY was a good experience for me. My previous job was in a north European company and was terrible, not even close to these 'high European standards' .
Starting from the assessment in Turkey I found it very professional. The simulator checking was tough. The instructor was fair in my opinion, he failed the captain who was flying with me.
Flying on the line is a good experience. Most captains are friendly and professional (including the ex military captains), I did not face any problems at all. Occasionally one or two captains were using Turkish language when talking with cabin crews in the aircraft or in the hotel but this did not bother me much.
In general I think the work environment is good and I find Turkish people very warm, friendly and willing to help if you have any problem. If I would think in future to leave for another company it would be only for a quicker command upgrade ( in THY upgrade can take long time) or a higher salary, otherwise there is no reason for me to consider leaving.
For your reference I am not Turkish. Coming in THY was a good experience for me. My previous job was in a north European company and was terrible, not even close to these 'high European standards' .
Starting from the assessment in Turkey I found it very professional. The simulator checking was tough. The instructor was fair in my opinion, he failed the captain who was flying with me.
Flying on the line is a good experience. Most captains are friendly and professional (including the ex military captains), I did not face any problems at all. Occasionally one or two captains were using Turkish language when talking with cabin crews in the aircraft or in the hotel but this did not bother me much.
In general I think the work environment is good and I find Turkish people very warm, friendly and willing to help if you have any problem. If I would think in future to leave for another company it would be only for a quicker command upgrade ( in THY upgrade can take long time) or a higher salary, otherwise there is no reason for me to consider leaving.
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I don't know what happened to my post my dear Psycho and I cannot give less than a **** what you consider.
Clearedtocrush looking at your profile..I even doubt you are even working or ever worked in THY as you you are trying to join... Lionair..go figure
Clearedtocrush looking at your profile..I even doubt you are even working or ever worked in THY as you you are trying to join... Lionair..go figure
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Lolo75020,
The CEO and other 'high' managers, they like you and all the other expats, but your local colleague on the left and maybe the local FO's don't really like you, ever thought why?
The CEO and other 'high' managers, they like you and all the other expats, but your local colleague on the left and maybe the local FO's don't really like you, ever thought why?
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Psychomantic how the hell do you know what the high management thinks? What I personally can say is that if there will not be a change of pace THY will end up with plane parked... Anyone I know very pissed off..many are on the way out or planning it..Something is wrong somewhere..that is evident to all but apparently not to the Turks themselves.
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Dear Lolo75020,
I totally agree with you. Still the same issues for the whole pilots. We had this meeting with the CEO too, but at the end they didn't give us A777 model
Things I want to add:
- why not salary in dollars or euros. We have to pay the tickets in dollars, but our salary is in TL. The TL also lost his value, so we have less euros. There are couple of airliners who are paying in euros, why not THY? And the ME is paying in dollars and we earn less comparing to them.
- also business seats for FO's when the seats are not occupied: he said "be happy that we offer you cheap tickets"
- the locals/Turkish pilots they don't have ID-90 tickets, only the expats. Locals have only unlimited CED tickets. Also the managment is making difference between locals/expats. I think you have to offer all the pilots the same conditions, no difference. What they actually doing is split the pilots. A really bad issue
The roster on the A330 is I think good, comparing to the 737. I have at the moment every month overtime. But I think also on the A330 no opportunities for commuting. During my times on the A320 I was flying 60-70 hours, and now around 90 hours. Not a problem for me, because the destinations for the A330 are good, my opinion, comparing to the narrow body, especially the 737 fleet. And overtime is more salary.
But once again, all these issues/subjects needs attention. They have to listen to the pilots, our wishes. On the other hand I hope a lot of guys to leave THY so that they have to change all these things and they realize they don't have a choice. But..... still no change
I totally agree with you. Still the same issues for the whole pilots. We had this meeting with the CEO too, but at the end they didn't give us A777 model
Things I want to add:
- why not salary in dollars or euros. We have to pay the tickets in dollars, but our salary is in TL. The TL also lost his value, so we have less euros. There are couple of airliners who are paying in euros, why not THY? And the ME is paying in dollars and we earn less comparing to them.
- also business seats for FO's when the seats are not occupied: he said "be happy that we offer you cheap tickets"
- the locals/Turkish pilots they don't have ID-90 tickets, only the expats. Locals have only unlimited CED tickets. Also the managment is making difference between locals/expats. I think you have to offer all the pilots the same conditions, no difference. What they actually doing is split the pilots. A really bad issue
The roster on the A330 is I think good, comparing to the 737. I have at the moment every month overtime. But I think also on the A330 no opportunities for commuting. During my times on the A320 I was flying 60-70 hours, and now around 90 hours. Not a problem for me, because the destinations for the A330 are good, my opinion, comparing to the narrow body, especially the 737 fleet. And overtime is more salary.
But once again, all these issues/subjects needs attention. They have to listen to the pilots, our wishes. On the other hand I hope a lot of guys to leave THY so that they have to change all these things and they realize they don't have a choice. But..... still no change
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Everyday or almost everyday, the local go home, I don't. I stay alone here in Istanbul. Why I should pay 300€ the ticket, with aditional fees (transport to/from airport) to go home when it is free for locals !
I didnt get a plastic 777 model,boohoo!
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De Facto..you are right still they went through a screening didn't they? On the other end it would be so easy to take a few right initiatives to attract the right candidates.
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I just wonder with all the recruitment going on everywhere how can't you find another job dear Lolo. Emirates Qatar Etihad Ryanair Easy Jet and many other operators are looking for pilots..desperately.
If you compare the package of other ME operator THY does not really seems to be in anyway attractive.
Gulf Airline X VS Turkish Airlines
Salary 8000 USD VS 6000 USD
Benefits Housing, Education End of service VS NIL
Leave 42 VS 20
Upgrade Seniority from day 1 VS playing games
Commute business VS no commute economy
block days off
Rostering acceptable to good VS disaster on NB getting such on WB
I think the point is THY is not a an Airline for expatriate. The "ideology" behind make it just a short time stepping stone to somewhere else. On the other end they send email asking pilot to tell their friends to join. I really don't think so.
If you compare the package of other ME operator THY does not really seems to be in anyway attractive.
Gulf Airline X VS Turkish Airlines
Salary 8000 USD VS 6000 USD
Benefits Housing, Education End of service VS NIL
Leave 42 VS 20
Upgrade Seniority from day 1 VS playing games
Commute business VS no commute economy
block days off
Rostering acceptable to good VS disaster on NB getting such on WB
I think the point is THY is not a an Airline for expatriate. The "ideology" behind make it just a short time stepping stone to somewhere else. On the other end they send email asking pilot to tell their friends to join. I really don't think so.
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Well written bob777
Not to forget the unpredictable development of the turkish lira.
Most ME currencies are on a fixed exchange rate to the USD which is an additional safety net in salary points of view.
Not to forget the unpredictable development of the turkish lira.
Most ME currencies are on a fixed exchange rate to the USD which is an additional safety net in salary points of view.
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Many young Turkish national captains and FO on the go and that says it all !! Why anyone would leave is home based growing national carrier if not if something dramatically wrong is going on? The outdated hyperconservative and ideologically biased 'squadron" mentality will bring this company to ruin.