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Old 8th Feb 2010, 15:06
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Emirates MBA in Aviation Management

Has anyone out there been through the MBA in Aviation Management by the Emirates Aviation College?

How would you rate it?

Any comments would be appreciated.

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If you want an MBA in aviation try Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Arguably the best aviation MBA in the world.

good luck!
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This MBA is very good as well.........though maybe not an Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University MBA. (What being the difference ? Unless it automatically guarantees you a job. ) And logistically and financially makes more sense because you can attend the classes in Dubai and it's right next to Irish Village for the tea break

IMHO.........very worth doing if you want to beef up your cv for future endevours
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Everybody I know who is doing the course says it's a box ticking exercise. They are more interested in getting your money out of your paypacket than anything else
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There is also Cranfield Univ in London (near Luton Airport) which offers a Masters of Science degree in Air Transportation which is one third of the cost of Embry Riddle.

Cranfield's program is also 1 year only and valued by many airlines worldwide who recruit their graduates. The current GF CEO and ex RJ CEO Mr Majali is a Cranfield Univ graduate.

Cranfield's degree will cost you approx US$ 45,000 all inclusive which includes tuition fees + housing on campus + meal plan + insurance + text books.

program overview: MSc Air Transport Management

course content: MSc Air Transport Management

entry requirements and fees: MSc Air Transport Management

applications homepage for 2011 entry:
Cranfield University - Courses that can be applied for online
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Or try City University London for their MSc Air Transport Management Masters degree
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HA

What's the difference between an MBA from Emirates and Embry-Riddle? Is that a serious question?! HA!
Here's the short answer:

Embry-Riddle grads have gone on to become Astronauts and aviation leaders of industry.

Emirates MBA grads have gone on to be 50,000DHS poorer.

For those of you still considering the EK MBA program I am personally offering the Trinity University Phd for only 45,000DHS. No previous education experience required. Your cash guarantees your immediate placement.
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City University London for their MSc Air Transport Management Masters degree
This is a good course and they run some modules in the Middle East.

The students seemed to be experienced people from the aviation industry and not recent graduates.

It is very flexible course and there is a good choice of elective modules and usually more than one instance of one module per year to make your scheduling easier.

The student breakdown is aircrew/managers/technical/infrastructure/ regulatory and finance people.

As an aerospace person I found the networking very valuable.

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Msc ATM City University

Did that programme a couple of years back. Best decision of my life. Lecturers are top notch aviation professionals (e.g. CEO Air Asia) and the administration by Roger Wootton is just great. Highly highly HIGHLY recommended. 5.5
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I've got no idea about Emirates Aviation College. However, doing a M.Sc. degree is far better than MBA these days. That's in terms of knowledge level that you come out with doing M.Sc studies. It's generally more technical and profound and hence might look more attractive in the CV from the employers' point of view. I hope that can help somehow.


Good luck.
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I got admission into Cranfield's MSc Air Transportation Management program for Fall 2011. Only 35 students worldwide get accepted into this course

Didnt know about City University London, shall look into it.

FYI, during my phone interview with Cranfield, the person who interviewed me worked for Boeing as an widebodied aircraft salesman for 18 years and said that Dr Majali (ex RJ and now current GF CEO) is also a Cranfield graduate from the same MSc program
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Smile Msc in Airtransport management

Hi there All.I have got an offer letter from Buckinghamshire New University for Msc in air transport management for this January batch . Would like your feedback regarding the course and the college. I have finished my bachelor’s degree in electrical and electronics engineering and have worked in dell computers for 2 years. I am very passionate about joining the aviation industry and according to me from analyzing the current situation this seems to be the best entry ticket into the industry. Would like to know from your experience whether is this course designed for a person with no aviation experience. Basically want to know the difficulty level of this course. Thanks a million for your time .Its much appreciated.
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Hi Bala,
Having sent the same question above to me through a private message, I think it's better if I reply on this thread, in case anyone else wants the benefit of my 2 rupees worth of experience.
And probably the best advice that I can give you after over 30 years in aviation, is don't listen too much to others' advice !
Getting on in the aviation business is a bit like getting on in the car sales business, you will be hearing about people doing really well, shooting straight up to the top or crashing out big time. It's very hit and miss and there doesn't seem much logic to succeeding.
What you need to do is take a very close hard look at yourself and honestly appraise your own strengths and weaknesses. Resist the urge to be a dreamer and work out a plan that suits your personality, intellect and funding. It's no good thinking of being an AME if you don't have a good mechanical aptitude and likewise you'll not make it as a successful manager unless you have a strength of character to suit.
Luckily aviation has a very wide of set of professions within it, so try and match the best one to your own abilities. At least that way, you stand a chance, because by the time you have added the downside of needing plenty of luck and plenty of contacts, you have to be at the top of your game to get that job you're after.
Sorry if that doesn't answer your question about the MSc in Aviation Management directly, but it's far more pertinent about you knowing the answer yourself. It's many years since I did my MSc at Cranfield and we graduated into a time just after the first Gulf War when aviation was at a dreadful low and there were no jobs anywhere. All of us got by somehow and most have done well, but none of it was due to the MSc and that was probably the biggest lesson of all.
Best of luck with your future, it's a great industry to work in! Sort of
Regards
FF
P.S. I wouldn't worry too much about not having any aviation experience, it's more about learning a methodology of doing your individual research on what they teach you.
P.P.S. Having read all the above, don't forget not to listen to advice! Best tip of all !
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Another endorsement for London City University's MSc Air Transport Management. If that is not quite your thang they also run MSc Air Safety Management and MSc Aircraft Maintenance Management. From what I recall about 50% students were pilots, the rest were engineers, managers etc. I don't recall meeting any students with no real-world experience.

They also run some of the modules in the Middle East, Dubai, Bahrain for those based out there.

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Unhappy Best decision for Me???

Hi there Flyer

I went and spoke to some of the aviation professional at my local airport ( chennai ,India ) . the awareness regarding these avition master's program was not much . i was thinking of doing a flight dispather course to enter flight operations as a dispatcher. The overall cost for this is much cheaper and the duration of this course is just 6 weeks . I dont know that a good thing or a bad things .(FAA Aircraft Dispatcher Certification School-Site Map.............
Didn't want to bank my future in a course that lasts for such a small duration .From considering the current situation and doing some self analyses of myself . this program seemed to be the best ticket for a fresher into the aviation industry. As you said from considering the various option this seem have good percentage of "HITTING IT THAN MISSING IT " . i do know these master courses are not highly regarded in the aviation industry but got to take a chance somewhere right. To put it in simple words ,this seemed to be the best calculated risk to enter into this awesome industry. waiting eargerly to hear your views.
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Masters etc

You said that you know that "these master courses are not highly regarded in the aviation industry"". Who is telling you this nonsense? In another post you were told that the FAA dispatch licence was useless outside the USA; your sources of information are truly misguided; as will you be if you listen to them.

A masters degree in an aviation discipline from an accredited university such as Embry Riddel, Cranfield, London City, to name a few, is a marvellous tool to help anyone with the drive, determination and ambition to succeed in the aviation business, that is a fact!

If the awareness of that at Chennai airport (not exactly a centre of aviation academia) is somewhat un-illuminated then that is not at all surprising.

Maybe check out some of these 'not-so-highly regarded' universities and see for yourself who their professors, lecturers, guest speakers and acadamics are. You might be surprised by the 'highly regarded' individuals who feature there. But then again, don't take my word for it, ask your mates at the airport

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Wink Buckinghamphire University Msc in Air transport management

HI there desporate guy

I got an offer letter from buckinghamphire new university for Msc in airtransport management. (Air Transport Management )The course starts this January . i got to tell them whether i accept the offer or not in a few days. i would like whether is this course worth it only is done in universities like city London and Cranfield . The general feedback regarding buckinghamphire was good but was not able to get a feedback from a person who has actually done this course there.

Was not able to get much information regarding this course with my mates in the local airport .
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Thumbs up Msc or MBA –for nil aviation experience

Hi there guys
Would like to know what is the difference between Msc in Air Transport management and MBA in aviation management?
I have got a offer letter from Griffith university in Australia for MBA in aviation management( Griffith University | Graduate Certificate in Aviation Management - Nathan )
and Buckinghamshire new university in UK for Msc in air transport management for this January batch?(Air Transport Management )

I have done my bachelors degree in electrical and electronics and have worked in dell computers for 2 years as a senior hardware technical support executive. 60 percent of the people have told me that doing these masters degree in a waste of time and the rest 40 % told me that I is a very good way to enter the industry, especially for a person with no aviation experience like me .
From what I come to know, nothing in aviation is 100 % sure. So I am willing to take the chance. Flight operation is what I am mainly interested in! But yes if I don’t get through that I can work in other field also .I take these master degrees as an entry ticket to the aviation industry.
So guys I would like your views on both of the MBA and MSc . If anybody body has finished the above programs from these colleges let me know your feedbacks regarding the university also .It will really help me make a good decision. Thanks a million for your time
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IMHO, any Master's degree is for the most part a waste....other than CV filler and a requirement for some positions. So a waste of time, but essential, especially if one has no practical experience in the chosen field.

As far as the EK program. I would ask if in fact the degree is recognised and the "institution" acredited. By whom? I don't know, but tread carefully giving EK "university" any money for anything, unless tied to a recognised acredited university/college.
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@IXNAT

Is continuing education a waste of time ? I don't think so in any industry that is driven by procedure, licencing and knowledge.

How can a qualification be "essential for many positions" yet "a waste of time". I don't follow your train of thought at all.

In terms of accreditation there are institutions like RAeS, there are government organisations that rate universities based on staff and research output, there are employers that sponsor students that have a view, and of course there are students that have actually done it , maybe with their own money.

Ask any of the above what they think about a particular course.

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