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Old 5th Feb 2010, 05:08
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Ek bend us over even more

Got to love this latest pearl from the talking horse.I imagine he even thinks we believe his crap. so much for loading the suitcase up on those trips to the real world.

Crew Baggage Weight Limits
Recently, various nation’s worker protection agencies have become more concerned about increasing on-the-job injuries being incurred by baggage handling personnel at airports due to un-labeled heavy baggage. This is particularly the case in Western nations with strict legal codes and stiff penalties surrounding these Health and Safety matters. As you may suspect, the maximum weights allowed under all the various codes differs widely.

To ensure we meet the majority of the world-wide codes and to avoid having to add personnel on the Departure floors at EGHQ to weigh crew bags and attach “Heavy Bag” tags both Flight Ops and Inflight Service have implemented a maximum crew baggage weight of 22Kgs.

Beginning March 1, all crew baggage will need to be less than 22kgs or it cannot be carried on board the aircraft. Additional information on the requirements and processes of managing this policy will be forthcoming shortly to both cabin crew and pilots.
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 07:45
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Not Surprised, In Oz i think 30 kgs will not be loaded. I can understand this rule. It would be a disaster if crew bags were not loaded due to weight. ( Brisbane )
Realistically, how often are you above 22kgs.
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so why cant the bag weigh 30kg just like a pax bag?
I wonder if it could be about saving fuel, well I think this rule wont work if I cruise high speed at level 330, bummer.
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It should be the same as a pax bag--32kgs. 9 day trip to OZ or winter trip and your bag can easily top 22kgs.
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Why not just put a HEAVY sticker on all crew bags?
..does that mean I cant bring my FCOMs anymore...
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both Flight Ops and Inflight Service have implemented a maximum crew baggage weight of 22Kgs.

Read: Inflight Services has told Ed and Flight Ops once more what to do
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 09:17
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Cap on DEWA - to save the enviroment

Overtime rule change- because of ULR

Baggage rule- because of handlers


The thing that pissses me off is the pathetic reasons that ED gives for all the changes. I know that these instructions come from above and ED has to sell it. Why does he not just come out with the truth instead of insulting our intelligence with these pathetic excuses.
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Its a weekly joy to read the cr@p these monkeys are producing!!!
Do these office muppets really have no life...

Another great step to crank up the morale or to stop the exodus...
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 14:59
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Well its straight forward to me. Just make your bag weight over 22kgs on all the sh1t flights and don't go flying because of some screw ass rule. Man, these donkeys really are getting to be a pain in the arse!

Incase they spend the next year in their self important offices thinking up more crap ideas...let me tell you, there is no more but the dirt up my nose and the crap up my arse you can steal from us before or after a flight so back off!

FFS
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I hope it was a typo by his secretary, when he actually meant 32kgs, as per the IATA ruling. 22kgs is a very odd number to use....if it was 20kgs or 30kgs, then maybe.

I am hoping for a correction soon.....
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32 Kgs would make sense- that is a common limit in the Real World. I can't imagine where 22 Kg would come from. But then I can't imagine where a log of the rubbish this company puts out comes from.
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32kgs would be nice but in your hearts you just know it's not a typo. Someone's worked out a way to save tens of 1000s of dirhams over the years which, more importantly, leads to a BONUS for HIM.

Because Ed is so, so amazingly, blindingly clever, he's pulled "22kgs" out of his @rse to make it sound like a scientifically-determined value and thinks we won't notice.

As always the crew get screwed. One of the last remaining pleasures here is (was) loading your bag up with whatever it is you like to buy on a layover and carting it home. I've seen way more than 22kg on occasion. Now the capt or FO of the aircraft will have some pumped-up ground-staff prick (like the ones in Australia) telling them they cannot load their bags.

When push comes to shove, the bag will be loaded (simply to avoid a delay) and after you've gone, the ground staff will report you behind your back and you'll enjoy a rug-dance with the C***S in the office. It'll end with, if not a sacking, a warning letter (that you know of) and a few more footnotes in your file (that you don't know about).

And of course it's all to save the loaders' backs..???? Ed couldn't lie straight in bed. God he talks utter garbage.

What a bunch of miserable, vile, loathable sh!ts we have "managing" us.

I might know how to get around this. Let me test it out and get back to you...

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Think outside the box.
Get a wheely bag a la cabin crew and put 20 kg in that; they won't weigh it.
Stupid games; we will win
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"Recently, various nation’s worker protection agencies have become more concerned about increasing on-the-job injuries..."
Who cares about Pilots working conditions ?
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Due H & S CX and BA have had individual bag weights of 23kg for all for some time
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 20:20
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Just another cost cutting measure poorly disguised as "bla bla bla".

For how stupid do these guys take us?

Then again for (maybe) cutting 100kg from a flight they are creating a LOT of bad blood, especially with the Cabin Crew. I'm sure this will make the SkyTrax ratings soar. Not.
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Due H & S CX and BA have had individual bag weights of 23kg for all for some time
Of course they have, and several other airlines, as well, I expect.
It would appear that those at EK are just cronic complainers...nothing especially new.
Anyone who needs a crew bag weighing more than 22 (or 23) KG must be packing it with rocks...or, stacks of electrical appliances to keep their curly locks in place.

If it were up to me, I would have the limit at 18KG.
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Due H & S CX and BA have had individual bag weights of 23kg for all for some time
Due H & S?

Makes no sense when the passengers take up to 32kg per case. Guess that CX and BA just stole the march on EK with this cost-cutter. Maybe Al & Ed should have 10% deducted for being slow off the mark this time.

It would appear that those at EK are just cronic complainers...nothing especially new.
Yep, 2400 EK flight crew. Every one of them recruited for their cronic (sic) complaining credentials.
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 12:34
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Not all electrical items 411A, just nice to bring home items like wine, meat and other stuff you and your family would like from home or elsewhere, as we live in the pit and you don't.

It's a perk, l agree, however it costs the company nothing for us to do so.

The bags weigh in at 5 kg for a start, and after minimum loading with the basics for a layover, even for just 24hrs, there isn't much left for the nice to bring home stuff with a limit like this one.

And if it's liquids you are bringing back, like wine (and there's 5 kg's for five bottles), then it has to go in the checked-in bag. Unless you can get a better deal at the duty free, which is not always the case at 90% of the ports we service.

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Old 6th Feb 2010, 13:17
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Halas - indeed you've hit the nail on the head.. Perk!!! And the office wallahs don't like the fact that we can pick up cheap meat in SA or wine in Germany..
Maybe I'll just wear the same uniform shirt on a 4 sector trip like MEL/AKL - that'll be ripe
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