Local pilots pay in EK
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Local pilots pay in EK
Hello all, I know its a private question so please try to refrain from bashing as I got a few myself already 
..... Do local (emirati) pilots earn the same as EK pilots or do they get some sort of government welfare/perks as a result of being a local on top of their EK salaries?
..... Do local (emirati) pilots earn the same as EK pilots or do they get some sort of government welfare/perks as a result of being a local on top of their EK salaries?
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If the Emirati pilots get any extra allowances at EK, I presume this to compensate them for being the ( underdogs ) in this company behind the australians.southafricans and brits bosses,w'ont you agree.
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What I mean is that the so called "extra allowances" are given by the government not EK, as EK has no control over that... I assume but I might be mistaken, can you verify that? 
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Payscale is the same , pension 75% after 15 years 100% after 20 years , the new cadets, not sure when that group would be under the new rules, which are 20 years 75% and 25 years for 100%. Remeber that most of the cadets live at home and collect the housing allowance as well, pays for the new fast cars.
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The reason I'm asking is that I'm a British citizen, but I'm eligible for UAE citizenship through my father, so I'm contemplating joining EK or EY as a local, to take advantage of the benefits if there were any....
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Good work Muppet. If I was YOU, i would do the same.
Take advantage of the situation. No worries about your desire to be a good pilot, just look at it from an economic point of view, lol. This company will reward you regardless of your abilities or inclination to be a good pilot. Good on you mate!! haha
And so goes the decline of EK. WOW
Take advantage of the situation. No worries about your desire to be a good pilot, just look at it from an economic point of view, lol. This company will reward you regardless of your abilities or inclination to be a good pilot. Good on you mate!! haha
And so goes the decline of EK. WOW
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Payscale is not the same, they get a 7500dhs a month cost of living adjustment allowance.
Which came about 3 or 4 years ago.
What they get is not an issue, what we don't get is.
Which came about 3 or 4 years ago.
What they get is not an issue, what we don't get is.
The guy is exploring the best way to make the best living out of his profession. Good for him.
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The Emirati Pilots are not entitled to any different provident fund arrangements than the Expats from Emirates. They ARE entitled to the extremely generous UAE Social Security system which, if I am informed correctly, means the UAE Government pays you 75% of your final salary provided you have worked continuously for 20 years.
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The Emirati Pilots are not entitled to any different provident fund arrangements than the Expats from Emirates. They ARE entitled to the extremely generous UAE Social Security system which, if I am informed correctly, means the UAE Government pays you 75% of your final salary provided you have worked continuously for 20 years.
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Wizofoz thanks for understanding my point of view. I lived in the UK most of my life, my family are all in Dubai, so it makes sense to me take advantage of the situation in my point of view.
Mensaboy, I don't know if that is sarcasm or what from your post, but I'm sorry if you feel that I'm ripping off the company cause I can be a local, If EK thinks I'm sh*t pilot then they would not hire me.
If you are an authorized examiner and maybe in my assesment sim ride, look out for a dark haired, white complexion guy with a cockney accent with a emirati citizenship and come question my flying abilities It would be a privilage flying with you mate
looking forward with some pointers from you
Mensaboy, I don't know if that is sarcasm or what from your post, but I'm sorry if you feel that I'm ripping off the company cause I can be a local, If EK thinks I'm sh*t pilot then they would not hire me.
If you are an authorized examiner and maybe in my assesment sim ride, look out for a dark haired, white complexion guy with a cockney accent with a emirati citizenship and come question my flying abilities It would be a privilage flying with you mate
looking forward with some pointers from you
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Good luck!
Well done Muppet! Try and get the best deal you can. Don't worry about the jealous detractors; they are the same everywhere - from the Eastend of L to the Middle East. 
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I think we are all entitled to lash out from time to time, mind the gestures 
Can't blame Mensa one bit. Why did I invest in this place again? Another foolish pilot...
It draws you in and then takes a little bit away from you. Why are most people so aggravated and tense? Just take a drive for 15 min on SZR, a microcosm of the world, but mainly the ME; you see all kinds of vehicles, nationalities and distinct driving habits, including total disregard for others.
Muppet, do what you must and take advantage of any opportunity. The fact that your asking for opinions puts you in a human league and I'm sure you're a solid candidate.
Can't blame Mensa one bit. Why did I invest in this place again? Another foolish pilot...It draws you in and then takes a little bit away from you. Why are most people so aggravated and tense? Just take a drive for 15 min on SZR, a microcosm of the world, but mainly the ME; you see all kinds of vehicles, nationalities and distinct driving habits, including total disregard for others.
Muppet, do what you must and take advantage of any opportunity. The fact that your asking for opinions puts you in a human league and I'm sure you're a solid candidate.
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I disagree with the former gentleman's opinion Muppet.
You are a Muppet.
If you want to find out local conditions with the intention of being a 'local' ask one of your 'cousins'.
This is a rumour site; not a fact site.
Apply to Emirates and ask them!
Once you get employed what are you going to say when asked your nationality with a UAE passport? British? Deny the nationality of the hand that feeds you?
I bet you do.
Unless you desire to live in a #@^% hole for the rest of your life and wear funny clothes, be a man and join like the rest of us do with your head held high knowing we maintain the moral high ground, and can and will return to our own beautiful green countries when it suits us; countries in which you can buy pork and alcohol at the local store and there are no loud speakers keeping you awake 5 times or more a day.
And where there are Labour laws and employee representation.
You are a Muppet.
If you want to find out local conditions with the intention of being a 'local' ask one of your 'cousins'.
This is a rumour site; not a fact site.
Apply to Emirates and ask them!
Once you get employed what are you going to say when asked your nationality with a UAE passport? British? Deny the nationality of the hand that feeds you?
I bet you do.
Unless you desire to live in a #@^% hole for the rest of your life and wear funny clothes, be a man and join like the rest of us do with your head held high knowing we maintain the moral high ground, and can and will return to our own beautiful green countries when it suits us; countries in which you can buy pork and alcohol at the local store and there are no loud speakers keeping you awake 5 times or more a day.
And where there are Labour laws and employee representation.
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Thanks for the support and comments Saltaire, much appreciated...
vbrules, from your post I feel that there is a need to clarify some issues....
None of my "cousins" work for emirates as pilots, so they don't have a clue in that department. Please mate, stop demeaning the locals here, they are humans afterall and deserve respect.
As for the website being a rumor network, not facts... That is correct but alot of people here used statements posted here to factor into their decisions into moving to the region.
Now as a matter for the hand that fed you stuff... I will never deny my British routes, Just because I don't have the nationality it doesn't mean I any less British than you vbrules, why did you go to the sandpit??? To make a better living for yourself I assume and you get the luxury of avoiding the taxes from the UK, isn't that ****ting on the hands that fed you as you grew older and they provided you with free health care and education by not giving back??
There alot of people in the UK who are immigrants have done more to the UK than me or you vbrules, do they have citizenship?
As for me to return back to the UK, I can always whenever I want, as I have property there and can always apply for the right of abode.... As for the pork, alcohol, and call of the prayers, go to wembley, and tell me what is the difference between wembley and Karama
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I have been part of unions and all I can say is that they are a waste of time if you are not the best of buddies with the union chiefs.... Then I'm just wasting my hard earned cash so they can go and have a couple rounds of golf with the managment while I'm doing some night run....
Its obvious you have hard feelings against the locals here, and I don't know what they did, but I'm sure that they must have done something to you that definately broke you down to backlash against a guy who is in the same ship as you looking for his best interests at hand without taking advantage of you....
It is a sad state of affairs really.....
BTW I like the dishdashas, they are pretty cool and comfortable
vbrules, from your post I feel that there is a need to clarify some issues....
None of my "cousins" work for emirates as pilots, so they don't have a clue in that department. Please mate, stop demeaning the locals here, they are humans afterall and deserve respect.
As for the website being a rumor network, not facts... That is correct but alot of people here used statements posted here to factor into their decisions into moving to the region.
Now as a matter for the hand that fed you stuff... I will never deny my British routes, Just because I don't have the nationality it doesn't mean I any less British than you vbrules, why did you go to the sandpit??? To make a better living for yourself I assume and you get the luxury of avoiding the taxes from the UK, isn't that ****ting on the hands that fed you as you grew older and they provided you with free health care and education by not giving back??
There alot of people in the UK who are immigrants have done more to the UK than me or you vbrules, do they have citizenship?
As for me to return back to the UK, I can always whenever I want, as I have property there and can always apply for the right of abode.... As for the pork, alcohol, and call of the prayers, go to wembley, and tell me what is the difference between wembley and Karama
.I have been part of unions and all I can say is that they are a waste of time if you are not the best of buddies with the union chiefs.... Then I'm just wasting my hard earned cash so they can go and have a couple rounds of golf with the managment while I'm doing some night run....
Its obvious you have hard feelings against the locals here, and I don't know what they did, but I'm sure that they must have done something to you that definately broke you down to backlash against a guy who is in the same ship as you looking for his best interests at hand without taking advantage of you....
It is a sad state of affairs really.....
BTW I like the dishdashas, they are pretty cool and comfortable