Safi Airways, Kabul
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pros and cons
I considered this job last year. I weighed up the risks and concluded " 'it' probably won't happen to me". Glad they didn't get back to me though....
....A week or two back my mate could hardly stop talking about his friend who worked for Safi. He was in the hotel in Afghanistan when a muslim exploded outside the hotel. A piece of bomb or hotel wall or something got into his leg (pilot's, not muslim's) and missed his femoral artery by enough that he's still alive, albeit with about 14 staples in his thigh and sans pilot licence.
I really feel for this guy. It could have been any of us who might justify that we need the time that badly.
Am I for real? I saw the photo.
Even if they WERE paying danger money, think about this poor guy. But wait...they're not.
....A week or two back my mate could hardly stop talking about his friend who worked for Safi. He was in the hotel in Afghanistan when a muslim exploded outside the hotel. A piece of bomb or hotel wall or something got into his leg (pilot's, not muslim's) and missed his femoral artery by enough that he's still alive, albeit with about 14 staples in his thigh and sans pilot licence.
I really feel for this guy. It could have been any of us who might justify that we need the time that badly.
Am I for real? I saw the photo.
Even if they WERE paying danger money, think about this poor guy. But wait...they're not.
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A v good friend of mine from a few years back works for this airline. I heard the story of what happened in the hotel in Kabul on 26th Feb (not from him I must add). I didn't believe the story so I did a google. And the images on you tube etc are quite disturbing.
So I called my friend, asked how he was etc and met up with him. He showed me some photos and gave me the entire story from his perspective. I really couldn't believe what I heard. I really hope all those caught up in this attack recover from their physical wounds and mental trauma.
My friend was quite philisophical about the whole thing. Over 20 people killed and 50 injured. Air crew running for their lives when suicide bombers are exploding inside the hotel, police/army in a gun battle outside the hotel. People receiving emergency medical treatment etc. And he was calm about that!!!
I still work for a hated Irishman. But this story put's my job into some perspective. I really hope that those that want out of this job find something.
So I called my friend, asked how he was etc and met up with him. He showed me some photos and gave me the entire story from his perspective. I really couldn't believe what I heard. I really hope all those caught up in this attack recover from their physical wounds and mental trauma.
My friend was quite philisophical about the whole thing. Over 20 people killed and 50 injured. Air crew running for their lives when suicide bombers are exploding inside the hotel, police/army in a gun battle outside the hotel. People receiving emergency medical treatment etc. And he was calm about that!!!
I still work for a hated Irishman. But this story put's my job into some perspective. I really hope that those that want out of this job find something.
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when a muslim exploded
Take your ass back to the damp hole you crawled out of and leave the middle east/middle east forum to those with little tact.
and that is not my thumb.
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when a muslim exploded
CF whatever you are.
Care to explain where the hidden anger comes from? Or does the truth bother you?
Should I not let some guy, who is thinking of taking the job, be aware of the real risks that go with it?
Sure as hell wasn't a Hindu or Greenpeace activist who blew him/herself up...
Care to explain where the hidden anger comes from? Or does the truth bother you?
Should I not let some guy, who is thinking of taking the job, be aware of the real risks that go with it?
Sure as hell wasn't a Hindu or Greenpeace activist who blew him/herself up...
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The common cause !
Terrorism has no religion, colour or race .Thats why it is an evil to all ,and the first who are getting the brunt of it are the people of Afghanistan . Just look at the casualty figures to have an idea about the extant of it .So to label it as just Muslim killing may be correct in description but not in the sense it is actually targeted towards all and we need all Muslim to be on our side to fight it together , not alienate them with this sort of labeling . Finally you will not call the pilot who blow up 135 civilian in mazer sharif a christian pilot killing Muslim civilians !! So lets keep focus on the enemy of all and not get in to fight between us, as I presume that we all have the same fight and when its won it will be for the joy off all not the few .
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Handover..
Care to explain where the hidden anger comes from? Or does the truth bother you?
So you think you have a handle on the truth, huh. Your perception of the truth is that “a Muslim exploded”. If that is truly how you see it, than please accept my apologies. I am sure my 4 year old would describe the situation in a similar manner. Its unrealistic of me to expect maturity, intellect, and articulation from all my colleagues.
Should I not let some guy, who is thinking of taking the job, be aware of the real risks that go with it?
Sure as hell wasn't a Hindu or Greenpeace activist who blew him/herself up...
handover.., whether you were being careless with your words or intentionally malicious, I will guarantee you one thing. No one will benefit from people perpetuating religious/racial divides, least of all you. After all, its not the Christians on you island that are putting the bread on your table, its the Muslims in the desert (according to your profile). So show all little tact, a little respect. The world much more complex than “Muslims exploding”
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Handover,
Very careless words indeed. May I suggest you apologise to those offended and we move on and get back to the discussion here. Which I do believe was originally about pilot recruitment for Safi, although given what some of the Safi pilots have been through recently, this thread could easily expand into the pros and cons of the safety/security issues that surround working for this airline.
Very careless words indeed. May I suggest you apologise to those offended and we move on and get back to the discussion here. Which I do believe was originally about pilot recruitment for Safi, although given what some of the Safi pilots have been through recently, this thread could easily expand into the pros and cons of the safety/security issues that surround working for this airline.
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Please could anyone tell me the name of the right person to address a CV to? Either a Flight Ops Director, or Chief Pilot, or HR manager as appropriate. Many thanks!
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In late 2001 Pentagon officials acknowledged that some of the 2,000 missiles sent to Afghan fighters during the 1980s might have fallen into the hands of Taliban or Al-Qaeda fighters.
Note of explanation to our younger readers: this situation came about due to the U.S. government providing the shoulder-fired heat-seeking missiles to Islamist fighters battling Soviet troops in Afghanistan during the 80's (how times change, eh?!.... see also )
So aside from 'freedom fighters of a certain faith' (is that PC enough for everyone?
) wishing to blow themselves up all over Kabul, as I have no intention of ever leaving the environs of the airport, I'd really much rather know about the risk from surface-to-air missiles being launched in our direction during approach / take-off? Does anybody have any solid info / risk assessment on this?
Click here to see a Stinger in action
Also, could someone tell me precisely what damage was inflicted due to the (3x) missiles launched into Kabul airport on 21st March 2010?
Note of explanation to our younger readers: this situation came about due to the U.S. government providing the shoulder-fired heat-seeking missiles to Islamist fighters battling Soviet troops in Afghanistan during the 80's (how times change, eh?!.... see also )
So aside from 'freedom fighters of a certain faith' (is that PC enough for everyone?
) wishing to blow themselves up all over Kabul, as I have no intention of ever leaving the environs of the airport, I'd really much rather know about the risk from surface-to-air missiles being launched in our direction during approach / take-off? Does anybody have any solid info / risk assessment on this?Click here to see a Stinger in action
Also, could someone tell me precisely what damage was inflicted due to the (3x) missiles launched into Kabul airport on 21st March 2010?
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I'd really much rather know about the risk from surface-to-air missiles being launched in our direction during approach / take-off?
Western management team to leave Safi. Airline will put it's Frankfurt route on hold by mid january.
Safi Airways künftig ohne deutsches Management-Team - FLUG REVUE
Safi Airways künftig ohne deutsches Management-Team - FLUG REVUE
Is safi airways planning to buy MD 80 . and hire pilots for MD 80
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So, it is racist to say "a muslim exploded" because we should be old enough to leave religion out of the discussion (that's how I understood your post). But you dare saying this "After all, its not the Christians on you island that are putting the bread on your table, its the Muslims in the desert". 
honestly, stop being so hyper politically correct especially since what happened is simply this: a muslim exploded". If a christian person decides to explode for the sake of his/her religion, then pretty sure the media would mention this persons reason / purpose i.e. religion. Sometimes we just have to face the facts.
honestly, stop being so hyper politically correct especially since what happened is simply this: a muslim exploded". If a christian person decides to explode for the sake of his/her religion, then pretty sure the media would mention this persons reason / purpose i.e. religion. Sometimes we just have to face the facts.
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How inappropriate to mention that the suicide bomber that killed dozens of innocent civilians was Muslim. We all know that Afghanistan is an extremely moderate and open nation as are most Muslim countries. Shame on you infidels, excuse me, non-muslims for attempting to dishonor and discredit this political system, I mean religion. CF, thank you for injecting some much needed political correctness into this discussion. What would we do without political correctness and a deep understanding and respect for one another as is constantly shown by most Middle Eastern and Western Asian nations? I also have roots in the Middle East and these Gentiles, I mean Christians are really upsetting me! Not ALL suicide bombers and hijackers are Muslims!!! Right? CF, if you need a break from this intolerance and wish to be in a stable, forward thinking environment, come join me in Tel Aviv. We eat the same food, have VERY similar beliefs and I'm sure that because of our similarities and your inherent sensitivity, we'd enjoy each others' company. Shalom! Bring it on Moderator!!!!