Bahraini Medical?
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Bahraini Medical?
Hi Guys and Girls,
I'd appreciate it if anyone flying Bahraini registered a/c out of Bahrain could answer this one: do you fly on a 'Bahraini medical' to fly a A9C-reg'd a/c, or is it a case of just doing the Air Law and flying on your original medical?
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I'd appreciate it if anyone flying Bahraini registered a/c out of Bahrain could answer this one: do you fly on a 'Bahraini medical' to fly a A9C-reg'd a/c, or is it a case of just doing the Air Law and flying on your original medical?
Thanks very much,
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Not sure what is going on at other companies, but the boys and girls at Gulf Air DO have a Bahraini licence and DO get Bahrain CAA Medicals. There are 3 examiners in town (some of them are also certified by other autorities such as JAA, FAA, Transport Canada, DGCAM Oman, et al) and another two at the Gulf Air clinic who are qualified to issue these.
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Guys, thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
Radar Contact -
Do you know if this applies to a certain operator?
Panama Jack - do you have any ideas what 'theme' the medical follows? Is it similar to JAA or FAA?
Thanks very much,
fbw380
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Airlaw and you are done.
Panama Jack - do you have any ideas what 'theme' the medical follows? Is it similar to JAA or FAA?
Thanks very much,
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I am not sure I understand your question FBW, but the conversion process includes a written exam based on the Bahrain AIP (open book). It is very straight forward after a few hours of looking at the manual and familiarizing yourself where you can find the information. Then of course, your simulator proficiency check for your aircraft must be passed before they issue you the Bahraini Licence.
A few years ago Gulf Air jumped through this process when it changed regulators from DGCAM Oman to CAA Bahrain. Aircraft registrations had to be changed, and it was without a doubt the largest personnel licencing effort the regulator went through in a short period of time. Looking at it as a spectator, I thought the CAA took a very pragmatic and pro-business approach to the whole exercise.
As far as the medical, I agree with Duh that it takes much of it's inspiration from the FAA medical (even the certificate you walk out with is similar in format), with the exception of that they don't ask whether you have a prior DUI conviction. A very straight-forward process. The only difference is that they do some kind of a blood test (it ain't for HIV, or Cholesterol . . . I don't understand what it is for) but that might be my physician's thing. They don't shove a finger in your backside either.
Class 1 medical (required for ATP and Comm) is valid for 12 months to age 60, then it goes to 6 months.
A few years ago Gulf Air jumped through this process when it changed regulators from DGCAM Oman to CAA Bahrain. Aircraft registrations had to be changed, and it was without a doubt the largest personnel licencing effort the regulator went through in a short period of time. Looking at it as a spectator, I thought the CAA took a very pragmatic and pro-business approach to the whole exercise.
As far as the medical, I agree with Duh that it takes much of it's inspiration from the FAA medical (even the certificate you walk out with is similar in format), with the exception of that they don't ask whether you have a prior DUI conviction. A very straight-forward process. The only difference is that they do some kind of a blood test (it ain't for HIV, or Cholesterol . . . I don't understand what it is for) but that might be my physician's thing. They don't shove a finger in your backside either.
Class 1 medical (required for ATP and Comm) is valid for 12 months to age 60, then it goes to 6 months.
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Hi guys,
I'm not saying that what you've said is not correct, but it's a bit confusing, and somehow contradicting with the fact that Gulf Air follows JAR-FCL/EASA rules and that it only recruits JAA licenced pilots! How do Gulf Air pilots get treated with their medical licence at this specific situation?
To my knowledge, there are essential differences between FAA and JAA medical guidelines. So what if a pilot with a JAA licence and a JAA medicals doesn't pass the FAA medicals for Bahrain?!!! Do they have at Gulf Air their own criteria for medicals that is different? If yes, please give me an idea about that.
Would appreciate your inputs.
When comparing JAA and FAA medicals, each of them is more relaxed in some requirements where the other is more stringent, isn't that true?
Thank you all.
I'm not saying that what you've said is not correct, but it's a bit confusing, and somehow contradicting with the fact that Gulf Air follows JAR-FCL/EASA rules and that it only recruits JAA licenced pilots! How do Gulf Air pilots get treated with their medical licence at this specific situation?
To my knowledge, there are essential differences between FAA and JAA medical guidelines. So what if a pilot with a JAA licence and a JAA medicals doesn't pass the FAA medicals for Bahrain?!!! Do they have at Gulf Air their own criteria for medicals that is different? If yes, please give me an idea about that.
Would appreciate your inputs.
Very similar to the FAA, even down to the EKG. It's not a big deal, it's not a JAA astronaut medical.
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Hum..they dont shove a finger up your backside?
I was a pilot there for 26years and Gf management certainly shoved something regularly up ours regarding terms and conditions.
I was a pilot there for 26years and Gf management certainly shoved something regularly up ours regarding terms and conditions.
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The medical standards are set by the Bahrain CAA, and as mentioned above, these exams are available at either a GF doctor, or several private practicioners..and GF do NOT only recruit JAA/CAA licenced pilots...trained pilots with Licences from all over the world...
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"... and Gf management certainly shoved something regularly up ours regarding terms and conditions."
Love the sense of humor, and must admit it was "painfull" at times, I couldn't stand it as long as 40&80. ... feel better now... LOL
This said, a medical is a medical, unless someting to worry about ...
MP
Love the sense of humor, and must admit it was "painfull" at times, I couldn't stand it as long as 40&80. ... feel better now... LOL
This said, a medical is a medical, unless someting to worry about ...
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Guys, thanks very much for the useful info, much appreciated.
Does anyone know of any AMEs in the UK that can do the Bahrain CAA medical?
Thanks once again,
fbw380
Does anyone know of any AMEs in the UK that can do the Bahrain CAA medical?
Thanks once again,
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you might want to inquire about this on freight dogs, as many of their pilots have EASA licence as well, they might be able to steer you in the right direction...the one I was familiar with passed away this past july
40&80, thanks for my larf of the day. Only did 17 years ,fingered 10 years ago but healed up now ! On thread though, blimey, it seemed much easier in the past. Wherever aircraft were registered, in order to operate, you needed that country's Regulatory Authority Licence. You needed, too, that country's medical. Of course there were one-off validations . In Bahrain, I was hired with a UK ATPL. Aircraft were registered in Oman. So, got an Omani Licence in the post. Didn't have to do or say anything. GF medical required and validated, medically, the Omani licence. I kept my UK ATP current & everytime I went for a Omani medical, I renewed my UK CAA medical at the same time as the Bahraini Dr was a UK AME too.
When Bahrain took control and the Bahrain CAA became the Regulatory Authority, we all got Bahrain CAA ATPs in the post. I do not recall having to do or say anything except get my mugshot re-taken. BCAA ATP dropped in the post. GF did everything very efficiently, for a change. Everytime I went for medical renewal (BCAA AME,) I , again, renewed my UK CAA medical.Paying, of course, for two medicals done at the same time.
Flew Italian Registered aircraft on a validation. Nothing required. Well, ostensibly, Italian Air Law but there seemed to be nudging and winking going on and we all would up with validations and I don't recall even having a bit of paper issued. Don't recall any medical and bailed out within six months anyway. Belgian licence, too, was just a validation on my UKCAA ATPL. Dutch were a bit more aggressive & we had to do a week long Dutch Law course with full written. I failed but the very nice bod from the dutch RLD said that he was authorised to give me an oral. I crossed my legs, agreed, answered a few very silly questions and passed. The Dutch medical was a two-day nightmare but again, "flybywire", I think you will be getting the point, a Dutch validation reqd a dutch medical.
I offer the probability that to fly a Bahrainregistered aircraft, you will need a Bahrain licence with Bahrain medical. I almost choke on my own words but solid operators like GF will almost certainly do all the plod work and make it a very straightforward affair.Hope that all helps.
Ironbutts; Wasn't Nader was it ? RIP whoever. Good bunch of guys.
When Bahrain took control and the Bahrain CAA became the Regulatory Authority, we all got Bahrain CAA ATPs in the post. I do not recall having to do or say anything except get my mugshot re-taken. BCAA ATP dropped in the post. GF did everything very efficiently, for a change. Everytime I went for medical renewal (BCAA AME,) I , again, renewed my UK CAA medical.Paying, of course, for two medicals done at the same time.
Flew Italian Registered aircraft on a validation. Nothing required. Well, ostensibly, Italian Air Law but there seemed to be nudging and winking going on and we all would up with validations and I don't recall even having a bit of paper issued. Don't recall any medical and bailed out within six months anyway. Belgian licence, too, was just a validation on my UKCAA ATPL. Dutch were a bit more aggressive & we had to do a week long Dutch Law course with full written. I failed but the very nice bod from the dutch RLD said that he was authorised to give me an oral. I crossed my legs, agreed, answered a few very silly questions and passed. The Dutch medical was a two-day nightmare but again, "flybywire", I think you will be getting the point, a Dutch validation reqd a dutch medical.
I offer the probability that to fly a Bahrainregistered aircraft, you will need a Bahrain licence with Bahrain medical. I almost choke on my own words but solid operators like GF will almost certainly do all the plod work and make it a very straightforward affair.Hope that all helps.
Ironbutts; Wasn't Nader was it ? RIP whoever. Good bunch of guys.
