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Old 12th Jul 2009, 14:30
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they cant stop you from having a beer either or can they
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Old 12th Jul 2009, 18:47
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Funny how quickly that particular FCI was withdrawn!

And not even by the normal method, this time Ed came on to withdraw it, you've really got to wonder at the number of FCI's that are put out then withdrawn the same day. Maybe that's why the auto-forward rule was canned from the Mail Program!!
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 15:28
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well... the beer or the off-switch on the mobile might not always help.
What if they cut and paste a nice nightturn during your string of 5 days OFF in a row later in the month. Whenever you check your roster or evita you're screwed...
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 15:35
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Come on 5star....grow a set of cohones my friend !!! If you know you were rostered 5 days off when the schedule was issued, then why in goodness name would you be checking what changes are made on your days off? They can post a lunar landing on my days off if they want...just don't check the portal for changes when your off....simple....come on guys, grow up !!!
 
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You are conveniently forgetting your requirement to ring EVITA prior to each duty. They will get you then!!
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 17:30
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ahhh...sorry but if I have 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 days off, my roster will not be checked - period.
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 18:12
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Kiwi,
If your duty is on the 6th day then you are required to check prior to that, not on day 1,2,3 or 4 so if they stick a duty in the middle you have no requirement to acknowledge it.
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Old 13th Jul 2009, 23:08
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Cool

It might just be my lack of computer nous but with the advent of the FOIP I have no choice but to acknowledge changes before I can successfully log on and there are many reasons to log on that are unrelated to roster changes (travel, new FCI's - oh wait minute no didn't mean to say that!)
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 01:55
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ATSU, phone a friend and get them to check your roster, you will know if they have any plans for you, but it won't acknowledge any outstanding stuff.

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Old 14th Jul 2009, 03:55
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SyB as I said previously I may not be the most computer savvy IT user but it appears to me that on the FOIP if you want to logon to get any kind of info you are forced to acknowledge changes to your roster even without knowing what they are. Am I doing something wrong?

Once I get my initial roster I rarely logon to look at it again but I do need to keep up with the torrent of FCI's and rescinds or I'd never make it out of briefing.
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 04:00
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Originally Posted by sheiken around
If you know you were rostered 5 days off when the schedule was issued, then why in goodness name would you be checking what changes are made on your days off? ....don't check the portal for changes when your off....simple....come on guys, grow up !!!
Originally Posted by Watchdog
ahhh...sorry but if I have 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 days off, my roster will not be checked - period
Originally Posted by Instant Hooligan
If your duty is on the 6th day then you are required to check prior to that, not on day 1,2,3 or 4 so if they stick a duty in the middle you have no requirement to acknowledge it.
This is the kind of thing which drives me to despair. The reason our management treat us like idiots.

A simple example: It is now July and your August roster just came out with 5 days off at the end of August. Without you knowing it, you’re given a Doha on the middle of your 5 days off at the end of August. Between now and over a month from now, you WILL be operating some other duty. You are required to call Evita to check on it the night before. That is when they inform you of the flight on your days off over a month from now.

Jesus guys it ain't rocket science. THINK about what you're saying and pick a fight you can WIN!
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ATSU, ........................it won't acknowledge any outstanding stuff.
The problem with posting advice like this is "they" catch on and modify it so no can check on your roster from their FOIP when there are changes outstanding for you. Besides, your friend may not want to risk seeing his own changes.
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 06:10
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Idleretard,
your example is correct - but not relevant to MY (or Instant Hooligan's) comment regarding checking evita/FOIP on my day(s) off.

I don't know of ANY airlines that are bound to not change the published roster, mind you some do pay a 'roster change payment'.
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 06:28
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Jeez this stuff drives me to despair, if only people would read what has been said.
Thanks Watchdog at least you understood the point...
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 06:43
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A lot of talk here guys - but I don't personally know of anyone who has been assigned a duty against a rostered day off against their wishes or without their knowledge. I find crew control to be polite if they call me and I have declined to operate on a day off on a number of times - no problem, no hassle.

It's those few who shout and swear down the phone line at them who cause all these new memos to be written
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 06:51
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White night - unfortuneately you're way off the poor relaity at EK nowadays stating ... "but I don't personally know of anyone who has been assigned a duty against a rostered day off against their wishes or without their knowledge"

'caus that's WRONG ! as i got rostered recently for a EK 500 night turnaround in the middle of my 4 requested OFF days upfront of my leave !
and they called me when i was already on the airport going for my leave !! - so - i in fact HAD to reclaim my baggage and return, to do the f****inf BOM night-flight and to start 3 days later in my leave! scouts honour! How bad and mean is that ?!?
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 07:30
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If it was an already published day off on your roster then its your own problem if you don,t decline! Very simple really.

and if your that kind of a sissy. why pick up the phone anyway
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 07:44
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Did anyone else notice the call out rates had been reduced as well?

I am with White Knight on this one. I politely decline their offer of extra work when called. No problem with this so far.

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Old 14th Jul 2009, 10:10
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Cyberbird - I am fully aware of the reality here at EK. However if you haven't got the balls to decline the flight that's been inserted into xx days then have some spinach
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 13:07
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Can we close this thread please - the FCI has been reissued with several changes and this is no longer relevant. Ta
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 13:13
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Good point Kitty

All the FCI mentions that is that if you say "Yes" then you will be compensated - you don't have to say YES.

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