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thanks for the info, maybe I should actually read the letters next time instead of turfing them in the bin.
As I said the money although an issue, is not the main issue, the 92 hours will be.
And for those of you who think...oh I don't get overtime now anyway so what the hell, or I never do 92 hours anyway, or if they fly me 92 hours Ill run out of hours and have days off.. think again what your seeing now is the prelude to 1000 hrs a year, which is just around the corner.
And when you hit your 1000hrs you'll be in doing sim supports and the like. (the precedence for this has already been set)
365-42 (leave) = 323
1000/323 = 3.095 hours per day in remaining days available to fly
30 day month based on above 92.85 hours, prob average at 92 for each month but Im too tired to work it out...
Lets see what happens...
As I said the money although an issue, is not the main issue, the 92 hours will be.
And for those of you who think...oh I don't get overtime now anyway so what the hell, or I never do 92 hours anyway, or if they fly me 92 hours Ill run out of hours and have days off.. think again what your seeing now is the prelude to 1000 hrs a year, which is just around the corner.
And when you hit your 1000hrs you'll be in doing sim supports and the like. (the precedence for this has already been set)
365-42 (leave) = 323
1000/323 = 3.095 hours per day in remaining days available to fly
30 day month based on above 92.85 hours, prob average at 92 for each month but Im too tired to work it out...
Lets see what happens...
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What will happen?
On the negative side:
Lifestyle, for what is was worth in the first place, will decrease as will the pay.
On the positive side:
Health & safety issues will increase.
2 +ves, 2 -ves so in management terms cost neutral. FUEK
Lifestyle, for what is was worth in the first place, will decrease as will the pay.
On the positive side:
Health & safety issues will increase.
2 +ves, 2 -ves so in management terms cost neutral. FUEK
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dont worry
Hang tight Allaru, with so many guys on AD, i suspect you will not get over 75...Wasn't that one of the reasons to get the AD thing on board, stop paying overtime.
Why they could not have levelled it out with the original roster is my wonder.
Why they could not have levelled it out with the original roster is my wonder.
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Allaru,
Yawn
Instead of whinging on Pprune, do us all a favour; learn to bid and stop blaming your bidding incompetency on new company policy.
Yawn
Instead of whinging on Pprune, do us all a favour; learn to bid and stop blaming your bidding incompetency on new company policy.
Last edited by Visual Procedures; 26th Feb 2009 at 14:26. Reason: My original post made much less think than I sensed it did. (burp)
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visual procedures,
I see you were right, complete incompetence (incompetency) on my behalf, as I asked a number of colleagues and indeed it appears as though everyone is getting exactly what they bid for except me.
Further more I found the button that allows me to choose how many hours I want to fly each month. I've chosen 50 hours for my next bid cycle to give me a bit of a rest, and spend some time with the family.
Thank you..
I see you were right, complete incompetence (incompetency) on my behalf, as I asked a number of colleagues and indeed it appears as though everyone is getting exactly what they bid for except me.
Further more I found the button that allows me to choose how many hours I want to fly each month. I've chosen 50 hours for my next bid cycle to give me a bit of a rest, and spend some time with the family.
Thank you..
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Tower,
If you're not a pilot that's 90 hours of flying, not duty or time away from family when we are away from home in a hotel. Also, while some overnights away are very pleasant equally there are some that just aren't vey nice. We do a lot more than 90 hours of work time to achieve 90 hours of flying.
If you're not a pilot that's 90 hours of flying, not duty or time away from family when we are away from home in a hotel. Also, while some overnights away are very pleasant equally there are some that just aren't vey nice. We do a lot more than 90 hours of work time to achieve 90 hours of flying.
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How many days ork 90 hours is equal too depends on what type of flying you are doing...doing short haul turnarounds you'd likely have to work every day of the month to get that...typically it would be between 8-12 days off now a month and over 300 hours away from homebase.
It's the times zones and back of the clock flying that wears you out. No way you can sustain a long haul multiple time zone type of lfying at 8 days off a month..you simply need 12-15 at least to recover.
It's the times zones and back of the clock flying that wears you out. No way you can sustain a long haul multiple time zone type of lfying at 8 days off a month..you simply need 12-15 at least to recover.
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I have 88 hours rostered this month. I'm just waiting for a flight to be taken off me so it slips under the productivity threshold. (Standing by for another AD)
Why with such an advanced rostering system would I get 88hrs when they don't want to pay productivity..the conspiracy theorist in me says its a dry run for just that sort of roster when the new rules kick in april.
)Why with such an advanced rostering system would I get 88hrs when they don't want to pay productivity..the conspiracy theorist in me says its a dry run for just that sort of roster when the new rules kick in april.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I just fly a desk in DXB Tower so I get home at the end of every shift. We work about 150 hrs pcm and have 12 days off 3 of which are sleep days following night shifts.
If you don`t get your share of long haul duties you must be working pretty hard each month to get the hours on short haul!!
If you don`t get your share of long haul duties you must be working pretty hard each month to get the hours on short haul!!
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This one is easy! Anyone got a good roster this month or last? Mine is shocking to say the least & potentially dangerous (unless you sleep less than 3 hours a night/day)!
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Probably my worst except for one other, but then again the bottom 3 on the Bus are only going to get worse... Ed said the Captains must take more responsibility so therefore I have decided to manually intervene
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Pretty good, dare I say it.... Got a string of days of (6) which I did not even bid for and 3 long haul trips, no turn arounds. Middle bid group. Happy camper all in all 
