QR-Hats on walkround
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QR-Hats on walkround
Notice the guys in DOH doing pre flt walkrounds with hats firmly planted. Company policy?- (or maybe just a few one-offs observed!). Either way, surely a FOD hazard on the apron?
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STIR-UP alert!
Company policy mate. And not a FOD hazard because the sane people will not wear it in strong winds, and the insane will use the chin strap!
What do you care anyway?
Company policy mate. And not a FOD hazard because the sane people will not wear it in strong winds, and the insane will use the chin strap!
What do you care anyway?
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Not a "stir-up", old chap. Just curious. FOD is (or should be) a concern to every aviator.
Oh yeah..why dont you prohibit your colleague sitting next to you from using a fork and a knife while eating a meal..surely a potential weapon.
My point being Mr Phantom,what are the chances of your hat flying off and becoming a FOD hazard?...How many cases have we heard so far?
Oh yeah..why dont you prohibit your colleague sitting next to you from using a fork and a knife while eating a meal..surely a potential weapon.
My point being Mr Phantom,what are the chances of your hat flying off and becoming a FOD hazard?...How many cases have we heard so far?
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Hats are a reminiscent of helmets worn by knights and soldiers to protect their heads.
We no longer need helmets at work, therefore the more strict the enforcement to wear hats off effective duty, the the more managements admit bombarding us with unneccessary crap, just proving their incompetence.
We no longer need helmets at work, therefore the more strict the enforcement to wear hats off effective duty, the the more managements admit bombarding us with unneccessary crap, just proving their incompetence.
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At least they propose their pilots to look like pilots unlike the crap that some have to wear, try a Virgin Blue uniform mate!
We are all equal here, sure lets make pilots look like loaders shall we?
We are all equal here, sure lets make pilots look like loaders shall we?
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As you all know, Qatar is a place with heavy rain, almost every day.
Because the crew were not wearing the hats in the rain, they got sick often and company had to do something about it. So, here is this rule that hat should not be removed under any circumstances unless you are taking your rest.
Because the crew were not wearing the hats in the rain, they got sick often and company had to do something about it. So, here is this rule that hat should not be removed under any circumstances unless you are taking your rest.
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Must wear hat in Gusts...
I would never wear my hat on a walkaround.And the FOD argument makes complete sense.Au contrair,I certainly WOULD wear my hat for a walkaround on a windy day,if only for personal reasons.To keep my toupee in place! Two certain FOD's are a whole lot more hazardous than one 'potential' FOD.Of course we have a gust limitation for the headgear during the walkaround.And its in the Ops manual somewhere.That's where the chin straps come in.Only on walkarounds,where half the HWC plus gust component exeed the Ops manual limitation(nothing in the AFM in this regard),when one must wear one's headgear,to provide protection to his/her erm 'more sensitive' headwear should one make judicious use of the ol WW2 chin strap! Just remember to keep your head INTO the wind at all times during the walkaround.To prevent exceeding company 'wind limitation'...!!
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Phantom:
Not only for walk around, but when you walk through the cabin and when you go the washroom,cap "should be" FIRMLY planted.
This remind me a story i heard once: when one of our "fellow scared" colleague when to the washroom with his cap(apparently not firmly planted enough..
),While he was releasing from a physiological need..his cap felt down inside..guess where..
Everybody including the F/O were wondering where the cpt disappeared while he was rinsing his cap under the tap for "hours" inside the toilet..
Not only for walk around, but when you walk through the cabin and when you go the washroom,cap "should be" FIRMLY planted.
This remind me a story i heard once: when one of our "fellow scared" colleague when to the washroom with his cap(apparently not firmly planted enough..
),While he was releasing from a physiological need..his cap felt down inside..guess where..Everybody including the F/O were wondering where the cpt disappeared while he was rinsing his cap under the tap for "hours" inside the toilet..
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HUAHUAH that's funny. I never used to do this while i was flying for QR. But i was not that fortunate to get reported.I wish i could go without waiting for the 3 months notice.the Worst 3 months of my life.
AL QATARIA - Fu@#(&@#)& you Personally
=> chin straps ( this is for the soldiers of Uncle Beth in UK)
. I never used to do this while i was flying for QR. But i was not that fortunate to get reported.I wish i could go without waiting for the 3 months notice.the Worst 3 months of my life.AL QATARIA - Fu@#(&@#)& you Personally
=> chin straps ( this is for the soldiers of Uncle Beth in UK)
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My point being Mr Phantom,what are the chances of your hat flying off and becoming a FOD hazard?...How many cases have we heard so far?
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the wearing of hats. In fact I think they do play an important part in corporate image. Pilots, just like cabin crew, should not look scruffy, especially in front of the customers who are the ones that ultimately decide whether the company succeeds or not.
However, there is an appropriate time and place for everything. Walking around the tarmac, who cares about being recognised as the pilot or the baggage handler? We are all doing our own jobs to keep the operation running smoothly and safely. Suggest more people get a "GRIP" (program).
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Yeah, one has to smile at the whole uniform issue. I am on a layover in Venice at the moment and earlier we went to go get a bite to eat at a busy Friday night restaurant / pub. In walks an entire crew, all donning tunics, stripes, ties, the works, and they all sat down, kept all their apparel on and ordered alcoholic beverages. I don't know which airline they flew for but it kind of reminded me of the scene in Top Gun where Iceman was wearing his "mirror shades" and "icecream suit" in the bar. LOL!
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The Cabin Crew don't wear their hats in the cabin with the doors closed, so neither should we.
The cap is part of the uniform so it should only be worn when in uniform. With a yellow jacket on, we are NOT in uniform so it should not be worn in this case.
If the management want us to maintain this 'military' look, then we should obey the same rules. No?
GB
The cap is part of the uniform so it should only be worn when in uniform. With a yellow jacket on, we are NOT in uniform so it should not be worn in this case.
If the management want us to maintain this 'military' look, then we should obey the same rules. No?
GB
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i never wear my hat once the doors are closed ,and i dont think they want u to wear the hat to the toilet i guess somebody is just making this rule up but to be properly attired well be u should have ur tie on when going to the toilet not the hat >>.