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Old 1st Jul 2017, 07:09
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Originally Posted by Top gun pilot 797
Mutt.
I think he's talking about the 35k & 50k PA housing allowance offer to FO's and Capt's respectively in lieu of staying at Saudi City.
It truly is a joke.
Someone wants all the pilots to participate in the survey with a resounding NO.
That ensures this someone keeps getting his kickbacks from the various hotels that are housing these pilots in Jed and Ruh..!
Off now..
When I first arrived, Westerners were not allowed to rent on the free market, except in compounds with proper "security". This was shortly after the Al Khobar incident. The allowance at that time was 3X your monthly base salary. I am not sure if the security requirement has changed, but they had stopped offering that allowance back then.

A new allowance of 35-50k SAR per year, won't even get a decent drivers shack in most compounds.
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 13:04
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Like I said earlier. The whole idea of offering the 'allowance' was for it to be refused.
And conveniently followed by a companwide survey.
This way the corruptors that be, have a legitimate and well documented 'refusal' of their generous offer. Thereby continuing to justify pay to keep new hires in expensive hotels whilst enjoying the kickbacks from the same.
My 2 Kronos worth
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 22:11
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Originally Posted by VAMY
There's an awful lot of "forelock tugging", "cap doffing" and ass kissing on display by the various expat groups.
That my friend is evident in all aspects of the operation. It is readily apparent by the way we are starting to be treated by all walks of employees. I think many must have lost a nut during their move over here.

Just in the past month I have had stuff pulled on me that no one would have dared to try even a year back.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 06:09
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The low ball rental allowance on offer represents the same strategy.
Isnt the rental offer the same that is presently provided to Saudi nationals?
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 15:39
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VAMY, I would be extremely disappointed if they offered me 50,000 SAR per year for accommodation, but that is exactly what they did to all employees of the SBU's who weren't flight crew or western, in fact they paid them 3x basic salary.

There is an easy solution to the housing issue, they could easily renovate the 70 odd apartments in NC8 that were previously used by the Winter Group and Al-Salaam, the construction of these apartments would allow them to be occupied following limited renovation and at a cost substantially less than the massive amounts getting paid today to renovate places that will only last a limited number of years due to salt damage. But once again it appears that someone is making something out of this massive renovation so it will continue.
I feel sorry for people staying in hotels for 12 months or more, it isn't right and needs to be rectified.
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 00:09
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Renos?
The going rate for one of the "Adnan Specials" was 1 mill' SAR, walk away, no more to pay, on road, fitted out, key in hand 😁 (2 story 3 bdr townhouse). Many fingers in the pie at that price of course, especially when there's a storage warehouse near the mosque, full of a lot of new equipment/furnishings ready to use. Adnan is not around anymore of course. No idea what the current cost would be, after his departure and change of the Compound Maintenance company.

The Motel upgrade looks great, yes. Long overdue. I think it's an Egyptian mob doing it?
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 20:55
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I was offered a new motel unit, I refused. Those dumb heads designed it without a kitchen. It's just like a hotel room, not suitable for long stay. People are staying in hotels for 24+ months Mutt. It's quite hard.

Apparently one FO got so fed up and rented an apartment on his own for thrice the allowance amount, and refused to accept the allowance too !
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Old 2nd Aug 2017, 15:52
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Now saudia provide Riyadh base pilots brand new Compund
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Old 2nd Aug 2017, 16:45
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What's the name of the compound Majed. Is it villas or apartments?
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Old 3rd Aug 2017, 08:33
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"town house meeting today"..... might be interesting
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Old 4th Aug 2017, 02:36
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Mutt.
How was the meeting. Anything from the usual?
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Old 4th Aug 2017, 08:18
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Those who attended, both Saudi and non-Saudi appeared to have enjoyed it and found it extremely positive. But i don't believe that they presented any specific changes.
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 00:44
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@ Majed & @ Top gun - yes it's very nice. I had a look at it. 2 n 3 bhk compound with UG parking, gym, cinema, basket ball court, etc. Marvella community.

https://g.co/kgs/4KioUH


@ Mutt - Looks like it was a good entertainment. Just a like a movie we watch it and forget it.
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 00:46
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But looks like not much of flying in Ruh base.
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 09:26
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Not much of flying for what fleet?
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 09:30
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Any fleet. how much can you fly max in 20 days anyways.
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 15:04
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On the 320:

90-95 if it was scheduled incredibly efficiently.

I am guessing they will be doing minimum guarantee at least with a few hours of OT.

No shortage of domestic round trips out of RUH.
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 16:38
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Saudia Airlines warn passengers of strict dress code - BBC News
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 07:48
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Why would I fly with Saudia anyways...
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 01:41
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Its free
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