Saudia

[alloha]

RUH base

Mutt the vibes are not good. RUH base was an idea based on a 20-10 roster ,mostly as a fence to those who flee to NAS after the completion of the contract. But from the first meeting it was clear from the company that 20-10 is not on offer. Normal lines as per JED based FDC. Money wise for the T7 ,crews gonna lose the per diem for 2-3 times they operate flights out of RUH. Lots of expats who have their families abroad would love to move to RUH on a 20-10 roster. Even on a 22-8. But on a normal line as per JED i dont think anybody will move. On top of that the company doesnt have available accomodation for expats and if any the distance from the airport would be considerably higher

[Chocks Away]

Yes a big pity Alloha, as they could have fixed their crewing issues for the next 4 years, with a 20/10 roster... there would have be a flood of guys from EK/EY and all others in the region for such a commutable roster.

I'm told many of the ex-MAS guys are failing/not making the grade, which accentuates the problem too.

Yes the RUH accom is an issue I hear also. The flying lines would be cleaner/more efficient, with more long haul flights on your roster from there but the new Flt & Duty lims create an issue. One way is to follow Korean's or Cathay's rostering but we know that won't happen.

Happy landings

[Flyboy_SG]

Mutt, I'm likely to start T7 grounds in March. Have been waiting all this while. They have been having issues. Due to shortage and more failures of captains, they take just 4-6 FOs per batch.

[alloha]

FO's

4-6 FO's per Batch is good enough .each bach has 14 people. Keep im mind that Saudi FO's from the 320 keep complaining about expats joining the T7 . I ve seen many of them during their observation flight as well as during normal ops and i totally understand why Saudia keeps bringing expats .anywhere away from the Domestic poolside is a nightmare for them

[asianeagle]

One way is to follow Korean's or Cathay's rostering but we know that won't happen.

I can't speak for Korean but, I can most definitely speak for Cathay....

You NEVER want to have a Cathay rostering system. It is a chaotic, short term planned, under crewed and over interpreted (to suit the company) shambolic system in flagrant disregard of the AFTL's.

Be careful what you wish for...

Thats why I'm perusing this thread

[King on a Wing]

Just a thought.
Where would they put up current new hire captains in that case.
Or let me rephrase that. Where are they currently putting up new hire captains?

[Chocks Away]

Thanks Asianeagle, sorry I was referring to their outstations and time off down route.

[mutt]

Or let me rephrase that. Where are they currently putting up new hire captains?

Hotels in Jeddah.

[Keep walking]

330

Mutt,do you know something about A330 fleet???life style,hours per month,salary and etc,etc,etc...???thanks.

[dieana]

What about to live there with wife and daughter

hi there, I was wondering about family life in Saudi. Any one living with your wife and a daughter? what about their life there? many restrictions? Can they drive a car?


Thanks a lot

[c560xl]

A330 class

Any idea y they had delayed the joining date for some of us on A330

[Flying738ng]

Ground classes

Hello everyone,

I recently arrived in Jeddah, i have been seeing a lot of delays for fo ground classes specially on the 777 fleet. Many have been waiting for 2-3 months to start ground classes, since their induction, Promting them retun to their home country and come back to start now.
How much delay should I expect, or have the things started moving fast now ..????

[alloha]

Life style

"hi there, I was wondering about family life in Saudi. Any one living with your wife and a daughter? what about their life there? many restrictions? Can they drive a car?"

Life in KSA is is an endless party. You should know that

Welcome to planet earth stranger.
Man are you kidding us? Where do you live? In a place without TV internet etc etc.

[BDD]

Dieana,

I don't work for Saudia, but I know that women can't drive. Yet!! I read something a few months ago that they were working on it. Don't know the
outcome. My sister lived in the Kingdom years ago. She would dress up
like a man and drive around.

Alloha, thake a chill pill bro, or get out of the kingdom for a bit.

BDD

[tomuchwork]

Well, if you never have been in Saudi then it is most likely hard for some people to get the "idea" how is living in this place.

I did my good share of ME living, hated it. And it was even not in Saudi which is already at least the next level.

I did a lot of nightstops in this lovely country(and was always very happy to leave, thanks god(alah?) usually not more then max 6-7 days there.

For me it is the entire "experience", from arrival till departure which makes it so good. Often you get threathed like they are gods(or whatever) present to me that I may stay there. Same at departure when you get your passports back and can finally leave. Restrictions? Yes, tons of it. Which? Flight attendants are threathed like sh.. in some hotels, had to come even for bf in the ninja dress(seriously, they got send back to their rooms to return in proper dress which was the ninja dress).Even our(the pilots) intervention was useless. To be fair, this does not happen in all the hotels. Women are not allowed in the gym(some exceptions, but not many), for sure they cannot drive. The driving is under evaluation as the Saudis are now getting more and more critizied for this behavior. Will change soon, so 50 years I guess ;-) .

I only would consider this place on a commuting contract, not more then 14/14, everything else most likely drives you nuts if you prefer some kind of freedom.

Would never put my family in this place.

[corsair44]

DEC A320

Hi guys,
I applied almost 2 months ago for A320 DEC interview . I still don't have any news about that (no date). Do you know how much (average) you have to wait between the day you sent the application form and the interview ?



Btw, I read some bad things about medical check in Cairo. I just wanted to have a latest experience about that, if one of you guys has done it a short time ago...

Thanks for every thing.

[fly77W]

Saudia Interview

Gentlemen,

My previous interview with Saudia got rescheduled.

Finally going at the end of the month so any input will be very much appreciated.

ac100, you mentioned about you attending in Feb. any feedback please.

Thank you,

fly77W

[corsair44]

Fly77w,

Could you please tell me when did you send your application form ?

thanks.

By the way, expect also some delays during training due to lack of flight instructors if you applied for airbus... I don't know about boeing fleet

[kungfu panda]

I read in Arab News today that as SAUDIZATION is to be accelerated that all foreign mobile phone communcations employees in every department would be replaced with Saudi's by September. 50% Saudization this month then 100% in September.


How long until the governments axe fall's on foreign employees at Saudia?

[mutt]

How long until the governments axe fall's on foreign employees at Saudia?

They have done it before, all expat FO's were fired when Saudi nationals with 250 hours complained to the King that Saudia wouldn't hire them.