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Old 11th Nov 2015, 14:43
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any chance of us a320 first officers getting in there,
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Old 11th Nov 2015, 19:08
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320 FO

Most probably u ll get hired on the A330. Expat FOs although it was advertised,never joined the A320 but only the 330 .since July assignments on the B777 only for those with boeing experience as local FOs complaining plus all the local cadets now start from the A320. According to a senior manager, hiring on the T7 will end by the end of January because SVA has only 4 more T7 to be delivered (2 pax 2 Freighters) so future needs will be covered with internal upgrades. Also some 777-200 are close to retirement. So for the foreseen future hiring only for Captains on the 320 and 330 as orders for new aircrafts already have been placed
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Old 12th Nov 2015, 08:37
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Hello,
Some expats are still waiting for a house after almost 1 year and more and more pilots arrive. The company is unable to provide housing because the compound is full. And some houses must have a real refreshment before being usable.
New trainees will live in the hotel for a long long time. The company is growing and we don’t feel special efforts to improve anything. If you plan to relocate your family, just forget to be together before 6, 7,8...12 months.
The good thing being alone in the hotel is you will be fully available for the endless training and the dozen of exams, orals, simulator tests etc. you will have. It is not a piece of cake and you must study a lot if you don’t want to fail.
Expect at least 4/5 months training (even if you are already rated !) with unstable schedule, before approaching the aircraft (apparently worst on 777). Expect to push the people in the offices, for recovering the money you will give for the visas, Iqama, eventually the legendary relocation cheque (never paid)...and sometimes per diems.
The good thing is the wage arrives on time and if you attain the line training the salary is good. But about my experience I am disappointed by SVA. They don't care about you. When you call or you go for any information or help, the guy is never the one in charge of..
More and more guys think about leaving the company before the end of the training as they realize the mess.
This is an objective point of view and some are surprised when they discover the reality. If you want to fly for money it is the right place, but prepare yourself to have hard time…and think twice before leaving your current position.
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Old 12th Nov 2015, 18:00
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Originally Posted by STS135
Hello,
Some expats are still waiting for a house after almost 1 year and more and more pilots arrive. The company is unable to provide housing because the compound is full. And some houses must have a real refreshment before being usable.
New trainees will live in the hotel for a long long time. The company is growing and we don’t feel special efforts to improve anything. If you plan to relocate your family, just forget to be together before 6, 7,8...12 months.
The good thing being alone in the hotel is you will be fully available for the endless training and the dozen of exams, orals, simulator tests etc. you will have. It is not a piece of cake and you must study a lot if you don’t want to fail.
Expect at least 4/5 months training (even if you are already rated !) with unstable schedule, before approaching the aircraft (apparently worst on 777). Expect to push the people in the offices, for recovering the money you will give for the visas, Iqama, eventually the legendary relocation cheque (never paid)...and sometimes per diems.
The good thing is the wage arrives on time and if you attain the line training the salary is good. But about my experience I am disappointed by SVA. They don't care about you. When you call or you go for any information or help, the guy is never the one in charge of..
More and more guys think about leaving the company before the end of the training as they realize the mess.
This is an objective point of view and some are surprised when they discover the reality. If you want to fly for money it is the right place, but prepare yourself to have hard time…and think twice before leaving your current position.
I agree entirely. They have bitten off more than their infrastructure can chew. They have Saudi office workers who have jobs for life and who work short flexible hours and therefore getting jobs done and sorting out financial errors can be extremely frustrating.

Given the current accommodation situation and the fact that this contract is truly non commuting; I would suggest that if you have a young family it may be better to look for work at the big 3.
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Old 13th Nov 2015, 08:21
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Well, it takes about 1.5 years to comletely settle down. You know what you are suffering for. Then it's all easy. If you are not patient enough, look for another place. And good luck to find the same money
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Old 13th Nov 2015, 10:41
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Hello
In the training phase, is it possible to bring my family with a visit visa?
thank's
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Old 13th Nov 2015, 15:55
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Reimbursement

I totally agree on the housing issue and the relocation bonus (some of us call it antiquity bonus ) but as far as it goes for reimbursement on expenses being made for visas travel expenses for the interview and per diem the company is faultless.they reimburse everything on your next salary ,sometimes even before that.
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Old 13th Nov 2015, 16:18
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B777

I'm Leaving to JED on 15th and starting on 22nd Nov. Anyone with me ?
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 02:23
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@ghost7. Yes you can but its not a good idea.
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 08:28
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Alloha are you sure ? I've been told it's impossible..
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 09:16
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Once your iquama is issued, this takes probably around 2 weeks from the date you arrive; you can then get the family visit visa's issued, this will take between 2 weeks and 2 months.


I recommend though that once you have your iquama that you directly get your family their residence permits i.e. their iquama's. This takes a little over 2 months because you have to wait for the company to do an interview for you.
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 10:35
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Heard they're coming to KUL again for another roadshow, can anyone confirm this? Thanks
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Old 15th Nov 2015, 06:13
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Ok thanks for the reply Polax. I'll do it as soon as possible !
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Old 17th Nov 2015, 16:53
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Yes, I will be in the same training !
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Old 20th Nov 2015, 23:48
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787 F/O

Hello everybody

I am standing by for signing my preliminary contract, as F/O 787' I am current and rated on it, any idea about length of line training..???

And another thing , about the oral tests, what are the materials,is it by heart or you can look through the books..??

Thanx all.
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Old 21st Nov 2015, 11:25
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As of now regardless of your type and licenses you have to do a complete initial, plus all Saudia courses and English Proficiency, Saudia Medical, CRM, DG's etc. Count on 3 to 4 very intense months hard study and training, the standards are high and you will have to study hard. Testing is US style with Oral exams. If you don't study you will not pass. If you do it will be fair.

No open book, recall/memory items and limitations a must 100%; and good systems knowledge, performance, GOM, Jeppesen Company Procedures.

Line training is done in one month with pre IOE oral, IOE, Final Oral and Final Check in your case as F/O by a Saudia Check Pilot.

The plus side is once you are released, it will be very nice work; best pay in the ME, never late and you will be in a very relaxed atmosphere including recurrents.


PM me if you need anything else.

Guiones
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Old 22nd Nov 2015, 01:49
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Some Things Never Change......

Hello,
Some expats are still waiting for a house after almost 1 year and more and more pilots arrive. The company is unable to provide housing because the compound is full. And some houses must have a real refreshment before being usable.
New trainees will live in the hotel for a long long time. The company is growing and we don’t feel special efforts to improve anything. If you plan to relocate your family, just forget to be together before 6, 7,8...12 months.
The good thing being alone in the hotel is you will be fully available for the endless training and the dozen of exams, orals, simulator tests etc. you will have. It is not a piece of cake and you must study a lot if you don’t want to fail.
Expect at least 4/5 months training (even if you are already rated !) with unstable schedule, before approaching the aircraft (apparently worst on 777). Expect to push the people in the offices, for recovering the money you will give for the visas, Iqama, eventually the legendary relocation cheque (never paid)...and sometimes per diems.
The good thing is the wage arrives on time and if you attain the line training the salary is good. But about my experience I am disappointed by SVA. They don't care about you. When you call or you go for any information or help, the guy is never the one in charge of..
More and more guys think about leaving the company before the end of the training as they realize the mess.
This is an objective point of view and some are surprised when they discover the reality. If you want to fly for money it is the right place, but prepare yourself to have hard time…and think twice before leaving your current position.
Well, well...I worked there from 1996 thru 1999. Some things never change and it sounds like, never will. Ground deeply in the old TWA thinking that never disappeared.

Housing was awful then...rats coming up the toilet, only to complain and be laughed at, then, my family kidnapped while I was doing a flight to EGLL..another story.

Nope...there are other fish to fry in this world.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 05:41
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Thank you very much for the info. Do you have any idea about the planned destinations .???
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 18:00
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787 Destinations

After the first 2 months of round trips in the Area they have announced CDG ( from JED) CAN MAN . They have second thoughts for YYZ as the loads are high and most probably the 777 will continue to operate
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Old 25th Nov 2015, 11:11
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Visa

Hey guys I got my confirmation email two weeks ago and since then nothing, I've sent them my letter of release since the first November. Does anyone know how long it will take for the visa and job offer letter. Fo t7
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