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Whar do you believe?What is true?
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Gulf Air Investigation Committee has raised their findings and issued their recommendations and gave the company an ultimatum to respond to their offer within two weeks from 16th of April. 
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MPs!!
A few totally inexperienced men with long beards decide the fate of this company!!
It was in the news yesterday that the MPs were upset that gulfair closed 6 destinations without consulting them! and gulfair is planning to close additional 9 destinations!
Anyone got clue of those 9 ?
It was in the news yesterday that the MPs were upset that gulfair closed 6 destinations without consulting them! and gulfair is planning to close additional 9 destinations!
Anyone got clue of those 9 ?
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Another Bad new for Gulfair!
Bahrain Air to start 2nd base in Dammam! Thats a whole saudi market lost by gulfair!
ROUTES ASIA: Bahrain Air to Open Second Base in Saudi Arabia :: Routesonline
ROUTES ASIA: Bahrain Air to Open Second Base in Saudi Arabia :: Routesonline
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I see....
I had assumed Bahrain would be more enthusiastic in having a previously fully airline to its self since the CP was jumping up and down when Oman pulled out...Shame that he isn't willing to make any personal investment...
Besides,those long bearded men are the reason why island is in such a mess in the first place so no doubt the airline would be in a pickle as well as it was one bad decision after another.The country is no longer fit in running a national carrier so if they want the money,they might as well sell the brand to some other company
All factors are pointing at the fact that it's not the airline,it is actually Bahrain that is causing the losses.With the equation , Regional unrest+Massive fuel prices compared to the neighbors + lack of support + mixing the airline with politics by the government=LOSS.And they wonder why the airline isn't generating profit .It is Pan Am all over again.
Good luck!
I had assumed Bahrain would be more enthusiastic in having a previously fully airline to its self since the CP was jumping up and down when Oman pulled out...Shame that he isn't willing to make any personal investment...
Besides,those long bearded men are the reason why island is in such a mess in the first place so no doubt the airline would be in a pickle as well as it was one bad decision after another.The country is no longer fit in running a national carrier so if they want the money,they might as well sell the brand to some other company
All factors are pointing at the fact that it's not the airline,it is actually Bahrain that is causing the losses.With the equation , Regional unrest+Massive fuel prices compared to the neighbors + lack of support + mixing the airline with politics by the government=LOSS.And they wonder why the airline isn't generating profit .It is Pan Am all over again.
Good luck!
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Its off the subject but interesting
The full TSB report is at Transportation Safety Board of Canada - AVIATION REPORTS - 2011 - A11F0012
A sleepy Air Canada pilot first mistook the planet Venus for an aircraft, and then sent his airliner diving toward the Atlantic to prevent an imaginary collision with another plane, an official report said on Monday.
Sixteen passengers and crew were hurt in the January 2011 incident, when the first officer rammed the control stick forward to avoid a U.S. plane he wrongly thought was heading straight toward him.
"Under the effects of significant sleep inertia (when performance and situational awareness are degraded immediately after waking up), the first officer perceived the oncoming aircraft as being on a collision course and began a descent to avoid it," Canada's Transportation Safety Board said.
"This occurrence underscores the challenge of managing fatigue on the flight deck," said chief investigator Jon Lee.
The incident occurred at night on board a Boeing 767 twin engine passenger plane flying from Toronto to Zurich in Switzerland with 95 passengers and eight crew.
The report said the first officer had just woken up, disoriented, from a long nap, when he learned from the pilot that a U.S. cargo plane was flying toward them.
"The FO (First Officer) initially mistook the planet Venus for an aircraft but the captain advised again that the target was at the 12 o'clock position (straight ahead) and 1,000 feet below," said the report.
"When the FO saw the oncoming aircraft, the FO interpreted its position as being above and descending towards them. The FO reacted to the perceived imminent collision by pushing forward on the control column," the report continued.
The airliner dropped about 400 feet before the captain pulled back on the control column. Fourteen passengers and two crew were hurt, and seven needed hospital treatment. None were wearing seat belts, even though the seat-belt sign was on.
The safety board said the crew did not fully understand the risks of tiredness during night flights.
The first officer, whose young children often interrupted his sleep at home, had napped for 75 minutes rather than the 40-minute maximum laid down by airline regulations. This meant he fell into a deep sleep and was disoriented when he woke up.
The report is yet another problem for Canada's largest airline, which has faced prolonged labor unrest.
Air Canada, expressing regret that passengers were injured, said it had taken steps to prevent a recurrence, reminding pilots to follow the rules for napping during flights and increasing efforts to heighten crews' awareness of fatigue and its effects.
"Air Canada has developed a special fatigue report form for use in its safety reporting system ... this enhanced system should be in place in summer of 2012," said spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick.
The Air Canada Pilots Association has long pressured authorities to take the stresses of night flying into account when setting the maximum hours a pilot can work. Canada's regulations were last changed in 1996, when the longest duty day was cut to 14 hours from 15 hours.
"The current regulations are not sensitive at all to the time of day ... (North Atlantic flights) are certainly fatiguing in comparison to most other flying," said association president Paul Strachan.
He also said Air Canada operated trans-Atlantic flights with two pilots whereas U.S. carriers used three to share the load.
"The regulator will have done a risk assessment and obviously is satisfied ... that the risk was acceptable, but obviously it is an increase, there is no two ways about it," he said.
The full TSB report is at Transportation Safety Board of Canada - AVIATION REPORTS - 2011 - A11F0012
A sleepy Air Canada pilot first mistook the planet Venus for an aircraft, and then sent his airliner diving toward the Atlantic to prevent an imaginary collision with another plane, an official report said on Monday.
Sixteen passengers and crew were hurt in the January 2011 incident, when the first officer rammed the control stick forward to avoid a U.S. plane he wrongly thought was heading straight toward him.
"Under the effects of significant sleep inertia (when performance and situational awareness are degraded immediately after waking up), the first officer perceived the oncoming aircraft as being on a collision course and began a descent to avoid it," Canada's Transportation Safety Board said.
"This occurrence underscores the challenge of managing fatigue on the flight deck," said chief investigator Jon Lee.
The incident occurred at night on board a Boeing 767 twin engine passenger plane flying from Toronto to Zurich in Switzerland with 95 passengers and eight crew.
The report said the first officer had just woken up, disoriented, from a long nap, when he learned from the pilot that a U.S. cargo plane was flying toward them.
"The FO (First Officer) initially mistook the planet Venus for an aircraft but the captain advised again that the target was at the 12 o'clock position (straight ahead) and 1,000 feet below," said the report.
"When the FO saw the oncoming aircraft, the FO interpreted its position as being above and descending towards them. The FO reacted to the perceived imminent collision by pushing forward on the control column," the report continued.
The airliner dropped about 400 feet before the captain pulled back on the control column. Fourteen passengers and two crew were hurt, and seven needed hospital treatment. None were wearing seat belts, even though the seat-belt sign was on.
The safety board said the crew did not fully understand the risks of tiredness during night flights.
The first officer, whose young children often interrupted his sleep at home, had napped for 75 minutes rather than the 40-minute maximum laid down by airline regulations. This meant he fell into a deep sleep and was disoriented when he woke up.
The report is yet another problem for Canada's largest airline, which has faced prolonged labor unrest.
Air Canada, expressing regret that passengers were injured, said it had taken steps to prevent a recurrence, reminding pilots to follow the rules for napping during flights and increasing efforts to heighten crews' awareness of fatigue and its effects.
"Air Canada has developed a special fatigue report form for use in its safety reporting system ... this enhanced system should be in place in summer of 2012," said spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick.
The Air Canada Pilots Association has long pressured authorities to take the stresses of night flying into account when setting the maximum hours a pilot can work. Canada's regulations were last changed in 1996, when the longest duty day was cut to 14 hours from 15 hours.
"The current regulations are not sensitive at all to the time of day ... (North Atlantic flights) are certainly fatiguing in comparison to most other flying," said association president Paul Strachan.
He also said Air Canada operated trans-Atlantic flights with two pilots whereas U.S. carriers used three to share the load.
"The regulator will have done a risk assessment and obviously is satisfied ... that the risk was acceptable, but obviously it is an increase, there is no two ways about it," he said.
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Well the comittee made the demands of restructuring the board and management, bringing those involved in corruption to court, investigation into choice of aircraft purchases, investigation into contracts being handed out to different companies. Very reasonable demands i say.. A whole page was in the tribune local rag yesterday.
I for one rather see people who dont earn their wages be booted out be it local or expat.
I for one rather see people who dont earn their wages be booted out be it local or expat.
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Not an unreasonable request.However,the shura councile is instructing GF not to present those reports(like what happened a few months ago).Seems like some one from shura councile is perhaps likely to blame.
I certainly hope that the 333 orders won't be tampered given that they have they have the ability to help GF expand in the future.Unless they want to stay the same for another 10 or so years..
I certainly hope that the 333 orders won't be tampered given that they have they have the ability to help GF expand in the future.Unless they want to stay the same for another 10 or so years..
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321s are great specially for a regional market..Gulf Air would needs the 333s more in the future to expand their in the future.Short haul destinations which GF can commence is limited and there should be a balance.Gulf Air should also use Bahrain's strategic location to connect to Europe,ME & east Asia...330s will be the only element which would allow gulf air to have its own niche since it wouldn't be a Major carrier like Emirates,Etihad etc & at the same time not a LCC like Air Arabia and Bahrain Air...
Gulf Air may have enough of 320s for now.Cancelling the 330s will just make an issue in th future since those AC are high in demand and ideal for expanding their market...
Gulf Air may have enough of 320s for now.Cancelling the 330s will just make an issue in th future since those AC are high in demand and ideal for expanding their market...
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I kinda thought that the A330's might just be irrelevant to a future Gulf Air (one which operates modern, efficient types). Perhaps the 787 (which we have on order) is a more suitable larger-guage/mid-long haul replacement?
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Indeed. Get the 787 asap, get rid of Airbus Longhaul fleet and convert the outstanding A333 order to A320 NEO fleet to replace current A320 fleet.
You'd thought that with some 787 order cancellations Gulf Air could get their hands on them earlier than close to the next decade.
And why not look closely at staying with the Embraer NG's for <100 seats. ( ready by 2018)
You'd thought that with some 787 order cancellations Gulf Air could get their hands on them earlier than close to the next decade.
And why not look closely at staying with the Embraer NG's for <100 seats. ( ready by 2018)
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Was chatting to the bloke who used to be the station manager in KUL, says it never made revenue. Tickets were dirt cheap. GF can never compete with its energy rich neighbours.. Reckon revenue from GF, BAS, duty free should all go into the same coffer.. But bah being bah and politics being politics.. Hmmm
Same day dropped into HR, and thought to meself this here place looks like a charity foundation/ retirement home lol..
Same day dropped into HR, and thought to meself this here place looks like a charity foundation/ retirement home lol..