Gulf Air Developments
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The past week has certainly been eventful. On Tuesday we took delivery of the first of four new Boeing 777’s. Some staff, along with members of Senior Management and myself, had the opportunity to go on board and take a look at the aircraft and what it has to offer. Like I have said before, this is a fantastic product - the best in the sky at the moment and we are extremely thrilled that it is now part of our fleet.
Many of you were involved in the process of securing these aircraft, starting from negotiation up until delivery, thank you for making this a successful deal. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank those of you who have sent me positive e-mails regarding the additions of the new Boeing 777’s. In the next few weeks we can look forward to the rest of these planes arriving.
This hello gulf air CEO message involved many of Gulf air staff in process of securing the leased aircraft.Mr CEO well aware that 90% of the company staff have not even seen the aircraft ,why he is involving staff in the deal,perhaps to avoid the MPs invistigations,that he was not the man behind .
Many of you were involved in the process of securing these aircraft, starting from negotiation up until delivery, thank you for making this a successful deal. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank those of you who have sent me positive e-mails regarding the additions of the new Boeing 777’s. In the next few weeks we can look forward to the rest of these planes arriving.
This hello gulf air CEO message involved many of Gulf air staff in process of securing the leased aircraft.Mr CEO well aware that 90% of the company staff have not even seen the aircraft ,why he is involving staff in the deal,perhaps to avoid the MPs invistigations,that he was not the man behind .
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Well, after a long sabbatical our CPO, Mr A. Al B., has decided to rear his ulgy head once more & as usual he comes bearing gifts for us at the pointy end.
His latest attempt "at steamlining fringe benefits" is to do severly degrade long service tickets for retired GF employees by reducing them to economy subload only. Also, he trying to get to unlimited ID90 tickets on GF cancelled.
Eventually these "streamlined benefits" will filter down to currently employed GF pilots. This, of course, is all being done in "stealth" mode so that we will not realise until it's too late & the policy is already in place.
His latest attempt "at steamlining fringe benefits" is to do severly degrade long service tickets for retired GF employees by reducing them to economy subload only. Also, he trying to get to unlimited ID90 tickets on GF cancelled.
Eventually these "streamlined benefits" will filter down to currently employed GF pilots. This, of course, is all being done in "stealth" mode so that we will not realise until it's too late & the policy is already in place.
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Hi,
A first timer not a gf staff but son of a former one. I would like to express my dissatisfaction with the latest raids on retired employees benefits.
According to the latest decisions (or rumors) there are no id50 or 90 j class tkts for grade 11 retirees, and no f class tkts for grade 12 retirees. This is how the company rewards some of its long serving employees, especially those who worked in the 70's and 80's golden era's.
It is not the first time the company attacks these benefits. Many former senior staff had theirs suspended suddenly, although according to the company's rules and regulations they are entitled to get discounted tkts for the rest of their lives.
These changes would widen more the gap of between the benefits. Instead of having huge differences the company should distribute the benefits more equally, and gradually increase them as the staff rises in the employment ladder. Grade 11 and 12 benefits are a case in point.
According to the old scheme (God knows how will the new one look like after the recent changes) if the employee serves the required period (20 years if im not mistaken - plz review the staff travel handbook for more info) he/she and the spouse would get FOC annual leave tkt and 2 id50 or 90 tkts on y and j class, besides being able to purchase discounted tkts on other airlines that have reciprocal agreements with gf, and the children get nothing. That was for the grade 11.
However grade 12 staff (if he/she completes the required which is 20 yrs. also if im not mistaken) his/her benefits are: 1 FOC tkt for staff, spouse and children( till 23 yrs.) ug to f class subject to availability + UNLIMITED id50, 90 tks on all classes, with discounted tkts on other airlines.
My objection is on the huge gap in benefits, in comparison to the small one in the employees grades, especially the unlimited id50 and 90 tkts for the employee, spouse, and children. Wouldn't it be more beneficial if the company allows grade 10 and 11 employees(as both have the same retirement benefits), spouses and children (till they reach 23) to purchase unlimited or at least a certain amount of discounted tkts, on j and y classes or at least y class? At least under this scheme the benefits are more evenly spread.
Its time gf considered seriously the unjust retirement scheme, and by considering i mean giving more benefits instead of taking them. These recent changes makes these years of hard work at Gulf Air more and more worthless.
I know i've babbled alot, i do apologize for that i just wanted to get it out of my chest.
Thanks
A first timer not a gf staff but son of a former one. I would like to express my dissatisfaction with the latest raids on retired employees benefits.
According to the latest decisions (or rumors) there are no id50 or 90 j class tkts for grade 11 retirees, and no f class tkts for grade 12 retirees. This is how the company rewards some of its long serving employees, especially those who worked in the 70's and 80's golden era's.
It is not the first time the company attacks these benefits. Many former senior staff had theirs suspended suddenly, although according to the company's rules and regulations they are entitled to get discounted tkts for the rest of their lives.
These changes would widen more the gap of between the benefits. Instead of having huge differences the company should distribute the benefits more equally, and gradually increase them as the staff rises in the employment ladder. Grade 11 and 12 benefits are a case in point.
According to the old scheme (God knows how will the new one look like after the recent changes) if the employee serves the required period (20 years if im not mistaken - plz review the staff travel handbook for more info) he/she and the spouse would get FOC annual leave tkt and 2 id50 or 90 tkts on y and j class, besides being able to purchase discounted tkts on other airlines that have reciprocal agreements with gf, and the children get nothing. That was for the grade 11.
However grade 12 staff (if he/she completes the required which is 20 yrs. also if im not mistaken) his/her benefits are: 1 FOC tkt for staff, spouse and children( till 23 yrs.) ug to f class subject to availability + UNLIMITED id50, 90 tks on all classes, with discounted tkts on other airlines.
My objection is on the huge gap in benefits, in comparison to the small one in the employees grades, especially the unlimited id50 and 90 tkts for the employee, spouse, and children. Wouldn't it be more beneficial if the company allows grade 10 and 11 employees(as both have the same retirement benefits), spouses and children (till they reach 23) to purchase unlimited or at least a certain amount of discounted tkts, on j and y classes or at least y class? At least under this scheme the benefits are more evenly spread.
Its time gf considered seriously the unjust retirement scheme, and by considering i mean giving more benefits instead of taking them. These recent changes makes these years of hard work at Gulf Air more and more worthless.
I know i've babbled alot, i do apologize for that i just wanted to get it out of my chest.
Thanks
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This problem stems from the lack of foresight by previous management (last 10-12 years) in that as they did not provide adequate (if any at all most years) CPI increases. Thus departments re-wrote JD's to regrade staff to recover the losses in salary and upkeep with inflation etc. Thus there are hoards of people on G10-G12 who should really be on G6-G10. G11 & G12 are almost fully populated by people who are still doing the same job as they did 5 & 10 years ago on G8 who ar now G11 and G10 who are G11 or G12.
Thus providing all these benefits to staff who really should not have them (I mean, should a Help Desk agent get the staff travel same benefit as an FO or Capt? Really!) is now detrimental to the overall onboard product, pensions (locals) and of course retirement packages for eveyone.
What goes around comes around.
As a retired employee I am yet to be formally advised of the change - not that it matters, having now left GF I am earning more than enough to purchse my own full fare First Clas tickets for self and family. And do!
Thus providing all these benefits to staff who really should not have them (I mean, should a Help Desk agent get the staff travel same benefit as an FO or Capt? Really!) is now detrimental to the overall onboard product, pensions (locals) and of course retirement packages for eveyone.
What goes around comes around.
As a retired employee I am yet to be formally advised of the change - not that it matters, having now left GF I am earning more than enough to purchse my own full fare First Clas tickets for self and family. And do!
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But whats the long-serving (20+yrs.) retired employees fault, my parent has been retired for more than ten years, cutting off benefits suddenly without even a warning would harm them.
As I said before the company needs to seriously review the current unjust scheme and consider G.10, 11, and 12 benefits again, because as you know there this huge gap between g.11 and g.12 benefits, which i think is unjustifiable.
thanks
As I said before the company needs to seriously review the current unjust scheme and consider G.10, 11, and 12 benefits again, because as you know there this huge gap between g.11 and g.12 benefits, which i think is unjustifiable.
thanks
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But whats the long-serving (20+yrs.) retired employees fault, my parent has been retired for more than ten years, cutting off benefits suddenly without even a warning would harm them.
As I said before the company needs to seriously review the current unjust scheme and consider G.10, 11, and 12 benefits again, because as you know there this huge gap between g.11 and g.12 benefits, which i think is unjustifiable.
thanks
As I said before the company needs to seriously review the current unjust scheme and consider G.10, 11, and 12 benefits again, because as you know there this huge gap between g.11 and g.12 benefits, which i think is unjustifiable.
thanks
The modern ME company is concerned with employe benefits only to the extent imposed by its government (this is now the case for any company worldwide).
The only serious reviews that are probably going on is to see how they can reduce the current benefits. As the locals are probably immune to any changes, the only remaining targets are their expats, but this is difficult to do if they still need to hire them.
The easiest target is the ex expats who serve no usefull purpose for GF anymore.
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@ Desert Diner:
Believe me even ex-locals are effected. Its now up to the company staff to voice their objection on the latest changes, before they end up having nothing once they reach retirement
Thanks
Believe me even ex-locals are effected. Its now up to the company staff to voice their objection on the latest changes, before they end up having nothing once they reach retirement
Thanks
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Just to keep the record straight
Today i went and got my "Free" ticket from GF
as a former long term employee
The only thing that has changed in regard to staff travel is that
no longer is First Class upgrade available only Business
and your booking is now in X class
it used be in H class
so yes less seats available for a booking
but what the heck where i go there is no first class on that route
Maybe they're getting people to pay the First class Tariff
Good on them if they are
S.L.
Today i went and got my "Free" ticket from GF
as a former long term employee
The only thing that has changed in regard to staff travel is that
no longer is First Class upgrade available only Business
and your booking is now in X class
it used be in H class
so yes less seats available for a booking
but what the heck where i go there is no first class on that route
Maybe they're getting people to pay the First class Tariff
Good on them if they are
S.L.
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@ speedbrake lever:
u could be a grade 12+ employee, which even with the latest changes you are still better off. At least u still have the unlimited tkts on j and y class for yourself, spouse and children till they reach 23.
But my parent is a long serving employee 20 yrs.+, retired ten years ago at grade 11. According to the latest changes there are no id50 or 90 tks on business class for them, and i dont think there will be an upgrade to j class if they are traveling on their FOC tkt. With these changes all of these years of work are now becoming more worthless because as you know some -like my parent- preferred to work in Gulf Air to enjoy these benefits once they retire. Its basically unfair.
thanks
u could be a grade 12+ employee, which even with the latest changes you are still better off. At least u still have the unlimited tkts on j and y class for yourself, spouse and children till they reach 23.
But my parent is a long serving employee 20 yrs.+, retired ten years ago at grade 11. According to the latest changes there are no id50 or 90 tks on business class for them, and i dont think there will be an upgrade to j class if they are traveling on their FOC tkt. With these changes all of these years of work are now becoming more worthless because as you know some -like my parent- preferred to work in Gulf Air to enjoy these benefits once they retire. Its basically unfair.
thanks
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how come mr bornnafwhatanunfortunatename is still there? there have been confirmed rumours that he is on his way / been kicked out / is about to be kicked out for months now.
i know this is a rumour network (that's what it says on the tin), but how is it that these rumours have so far not had any basis?
we need to know the truth.
i know this is a rumour network (that's what it says on the tin), but how is it that these rumours have so far not had any basis?
we need to know the truth.
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the truth is because he qualifies to be the perfect fall guy, he will stay.
because he is unqualified, he will stay.
because he is a 'yes' man, he will stay.
because when they say 'jump', he says 'how high?', he will stay.
because the shiite parliamentarians want him out, the sunni ministers will want him to stay.
because no innovative ideas came from him, he will stay.
because he's got the poster boy looks, he will stay.
in other words, he is the perfect candidate for the job as far as the bahrainis are concerned for all the wrong reasons. worst of all, he is happy with that. kinda like the worst singers auditioning for american idol. they don't know just how bad they are.
because he is unqualified, he will stay.
because he is a 'yes' man, he will stay.
because when they say 'jump', he says 'how high?', he will stay.
because the shiite parliamentarians want him out, the sunni ministers will want him to stay.
because no innovative ideas came from him, he will stay.
because he's got the poster boy looks, he will stay.
in other words, he is the perfect candidate for the job as far as the bahrainis are concerned for all the wrong reasons. worst of all, he is happy with that. kinda like the worst singers auditioning for american idol. they don't know just how bad they are.
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Some of the stuff I have picked up has been a bit more than the usual rumours. More like something with some substance.
However, I guess it was just the usual rumour stuff after all.
Interesting though that the finnish strategy guy who was fired was a bornnafwhatanunfortunatename import or at least I thought so. If the board forced the ceo to fire one of his guys its not a good reflection on him.
Some of the stuff I have picked up has been a bit more than the usual rumours. More like something with some substance.
However, I guess it was just the usual rumour stuff after all.
Interesting though that the finnish strategy guy who was fired was a bornnafwhatanunfortunatename import or at least I thought so. If the board forced the ceo to fire one of his guys its not a good reflection on him.
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Isn't she in Singapore having the cabin done, would have thought they would sent one of the others, as KB has the F1 paint job leading up to the Grand prix?...(GF forward thinking at work?.....)