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Calmcavok, that was good - do you work in comms?!
Figure I should start lending my voice to this forum... I'm staying focused and optimistic, inshalla only good things.
Figure I should start lending my voice to this forum... I'm staying focused and optimistic, inshalla only good things.
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Fantastic post. Extremely funny & spilled me coffee three times ! Leaves a sad taste in the mouth though. Not the coffee but the post. I think it is called 'tragi-comedy', or something like that. Sad but true. Never a truer word spoken in jest.
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Well I've heard of poor cabin crew & fellow flight deck not having their contracts renewed or being given their notice period but will any of the senior management & board memebers that shoulder most of the responsibility for the situation GF finds itself in ever be held accountable???
Until that day no amount of restucturing strategy will change anything in GF. The big shots that have been raping the company & filling their pockets need to be named & shamed then kicked to the kerb. Firing the people that make the little revenue that GF gets is nothing but commercial suicide & it plainly a tactic in order for the senior management to hang onto their chairs for a little while longer.
Until that day no amount of restucturing strategy will change anything in GF. The big shots that have been raping the company & filling their pockets need to be named & shamed then kicked to the kerb. Firing the people that make the little revenue that GF gets is nothing but commercial suicide & it plainly a tactic in order for the senior management to hang onto their chairs for a little while longer.
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Great post, CalmCavok....
Spot on Mephistopheles....Thats exactly whats happening and has been for a very long time. When Hogan arrived, he had a strategy plan based on "3 years recovery"
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Along came Nuff Nuff and said the same " 3 years recovery".
Followed by Majali who repeated the same " 3 years recovery "
And now AGAIN these new management and board of directors have come up with the " 3 year recovery plan crap"..
When are they going to wake up AND REALISE that it has been at least 10 years with their recovery crap and this airline is slipping into a fatal coma. Time to kick those useless, ignorant,self centred management guys OUT and that should pave the way to a " 3 Year Recovery Plan"
Spot on Mephistopheles....Thats exactly whats happening and has been for a very long time. When Hogan arrived, he had a strategy plan based on "3 years recovery"
.. Along came Nuff Nuff and said the same " 3 years recovery".
Followed by Majali who repeated the same " 3 years recovery "
And now AGAIN these new management and board of directors have come up with the " 3 year recovery plan crap"..
When are they going to wake up AND REALISE that it has been at least 10 years with their recovery crap and this airline is slipping into a fatal coma. Time to kick those useless, ignorant,self centred management guys OUT and that should pave the way to a " 3 Year Recovery Plan"
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Gulf Air to downsize - Business Traveller
Read this article. You start reading it and you think it's from today's newspaper. It's not!!
Read this article. You start reading it and you think it's from today's newspaper. It's not!!
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Yeah & when a mate of mine joined GF in 1993, GDN reported that GF was aiming at 100% Bahrain National Employees within 5 years. He used to take the GDN seriously & started looking for another job !
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Yea and when I was a G.F. L1011 F/o in 1977... F/o pilots got a memo informing us that ALL future Captains would be Nationals or ex BA or Cathay retirees.
That memo immediately thinned the future Captain talent ranks....so it was later reversed.
It is called management.
Luckily having little talent myself...all this vastly improved my seniority to the extent by default I was soon required to be rostered as a Captain.
First law in aviation...if you are no good...you better be lucky!
That memo immediately thinned the future Captain talent ranks....so it was later reversed.
It is called management.
Luckily having little talent myself...all this vastly improved my seniority to the extent by default I was soon required to be rostered as a Captain.
First law in aviation...if you are no good...you better be lucky!
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One of the biggest problems with some Gulf airlines, and GF is probably the best example, is that the company is seen as one of the largest sources of employment by locals. It's our airline and therefore it will provide us with lots of high paying jobs, is the way the local population sees it.
The problem is, and I generalise here, most said locals do not have the same work ethic as others and therefore it takes two or three locals to do the job of one expat. GF was, and probably still is, beset by problems with staff who arrive at the pink palace in the morning, clock in, and then leave the premises to run personal errands, take the kids to school, etc. etc. and return to the office hours later. The expat managers find local staff constantly on their mobiles talking to who knows who about who knows what. The chances of it being about business are fairly remote, but unless the expats speak arabic it's difficult to prevent this happening. It is one of the most overstaffed and poorly managed organisations I have ever seen in a very long time in this business.
The airline will never get onto a secure financial footing until staff are properly managed and made to understand that they either give 100% of their working hours to their employer or they can go find alternative employment.
Not the airline's only problem by a long chalk, but certainly a significant part of what's wrong.
The problem is, and I generalise here, most said locals do not have the same work ethic as others and therefore it takes two or three locals to do the job of one expat. GF was, and probably still is, beset by problems with staff who arrive at the pink palace in the morning, clock in, and then leave the premises to run personal errands, take the kids to school, etc. etc. and return to the office hours later. The expat managers find local staff constantly on their mobiles talking to who knows who about who knows what. The chances of it being about business are fairly remote, but unless the expats speak arabic it's difficult to prevent this happening. It is one of the most overstaffed and poorly managed organisations I have ever seen in a very long time in this business.
The airline will never get onto a secure financial footing until staff are properly managed and made to understand that they either give 100% of their working hours to their employer or they can go find alternative employment.
Not the airline's only problem by a long chalk, but certainly a significant part of what's wrong.
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& the corruption continues...
It's being reported that the Manager Cabin Appearance(a Jordanian lady appointed by the ex-CEO S.M.)received BD60000 for termination of service compensation for working with GF for just 2 years! Not bad since even the most senior locals with +30 years would not get that amount under the voluntary retirement scheme!
Also, our COO N.A S. kindly reinstated 2 young cabin crew members that did not have their contracts renewed due to sickness & performance issues-although they did work hard after hours!
All this whilst decent hard working employees that have loyally worked for the company are facing the ax.
I was told a long time ago that GF only respects thieves, pimps & hookers, unfortunately that appraisal appears to be spot on.
It's being reported that the Manager Cabin Appearance(a Jordanian lady appointed by the ex-CEO S.M.)received BD60000 for termination of service compensation for working with GF for just 2 years! Not bad since even the most senior locals with +30 years would not get that amount under the voluntary retirement scheme!
Also, our COO N.A S. kindly reinstated 2 young cabin crew members that did not have their contracts renewed due to sickness & performance issues-although they did work hard after hours!
All this whilst decent hard working employees that have loyally worked for the company are facing the ax.
I was told a long time ago that GF only respects thieves, pimps & hookers, unfortunately that appraisal appears to be spot on.
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Cry!!!
Gulf air.... Shrinking is the answer to everything however management and corruption never shrink. Acting CEO speech was very weak during the meeting. His got military experience - shooting people down and that's exactly what he is doing with gulf air. He has been doing this for the rest of his life so don't blame him.
What was interesting was the answer our COO was stating regards "pilots" when asked how many expat pilots are going to be made redundant... His answer was he did not know - local pilots will be made redundant As well with regards to performance! What about the accident that occurred a few months ago... These local pilots still have a job... It would have been different story if they were expats.
The problem is that we trusted gulf air cause of it's history and reputation - now we have to take it on the chin.
What was interesting was the answer our COO was stating regards "pilots" when asked how many expat pilots are going to be made redundant... His answer was he did not know - local pilots will be made redundant As well with regards to performance! What about the accident that occurred a few months ago... These local pilots still have a job... It would have been different story if they were expats.
The problem is that we trusted gulf air cause of it's history and reputation - now we have to take it on the chin.
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Correct, last flew on 20th. 23 pilots from Emb fleet redundant eff 23 Jan. 3 pilots with good seniority that previously flew Airbus types for GF, and therefore can do a short course, are transferring back to A320.
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So now staff tickets for extrended family have been withdrawn & ammendments(read-reductions) made to former/retired employees travel benefits all "to maximise revenue from commercial passengers."????????
Wake up call! We don't have any passengers to maximize the revenue from since we are closing stations all over our "family & business" friendly network.
How about getting rid of 25% of the more than 50 Senior Managers/Directors? I'm sure that would go some way to help "securing the airline's future".
Wake up call! We don't have any passengers to maximize the revenue from since we are closing stations all over our "family & business" friendly network.
How about getting rid of 25% of the more than 50 Senior Managers/Directors? I'm sure that would go some way to help "securing the airline's future".
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With all these talks about fleet cuts and reductions, why is Gulf Air Careers still advertising both A320 CA and FO vacancies? Are they really in need of Airbus pilots, despite the reduction in size?