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Old 12th Sep 2008, 04:06
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Well SIA's 2 380's seem to be running just fine!! And I'm sure that the JAA/FAA certification will cover even things like the gennies 5*.

All a lot of b0llocks being spouted on this thread
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word from engineer backs up electrical problem caused by FOD
Quite correct. FOD* as in Flooding from Outflow from Da Shower.

I too was a little bemused that this week's crew "update" made no mention at all of the Whale, be it its progress or otherwise. Am I letting my imagination run away with me when I consider what might have eventuated had the Whale had a fire in its E&E compartment with no ECAM warning (as this one did), but at F350 and two hours away from the nearest airfield, and with 500 pax on board?

When I say "might have eventuated", I'm thinking Big Picture, along the lines of "to the economy of the south of France if not France itself, along with the other Airbus partner countries." On a smaller(?) scale, Swissair 111 comes immediately to mind.

Perhaps I've just answered my own question as to why we've been told nothing.
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White knight,

On your next walkaround talk to some engineers and you'll get a better picture. What some are writing in this forum is not BS.
Funny how there is still no comms from EK...
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This is part of Airbus foreward thinking,use water from shower for fire fighting in E&E bay. No need for eicam message as will be inop.
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Now that's forward thinking! Them engineers at AB sure are a crafty lot. Boeing could learn quite a bit from them!
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No, Airbus can learn a lot from those crafty Boeing engineers- eg Let's save fuel by not allowing the engines to power up on short final, or lets hasten pax disembarkment by burning down the aircraft at the gate.
Well, this quote reminds me of Habsheim and the hangar in CDG ....

But on another note this is a SR111 flashback. They had similar toothing problems with the IFEN electrics, but ... just played them down and displayed a very similar lack of information. We all know the result. It is not only AB. The reverting from cables and hydraulic lines to all electrics is visible on the 787 as well. I personally prefer severed cables, leaking hydraulic lines to short circuiting electrical equippment, but the trend is set and we have to live with it.
The really dangerous situation today is the constant cover-up of these problems, the same as the head in the sand defensive attitude of freaks of these new aircraft.

Tell it like it is, then they will be forced to improve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may quote Obama: You can put lipstick on a pig, it will still be a pig.
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The really dangerous situation today is the constant cover-up of these problems, the same as the head in the sand defensive attitude of freaks of these new aircraft.

Agreed - this secrecy could kill somebody some day
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I am so sorry to AB. It seems that Boeing invented the system,B747-200/400 both lost electrical power due moisture in E&E bay. On a more serious note the E&E bays should be watertight and fireproof,or have fire detection/warning/fighting system. After all they can make subs waterproof, with some exceptions.
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Old 12th Sep 2008, 12:04
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This morning was parked at F16(I think)ready to operate EK 201
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Yup, flew over Mirdiff this morning on it's way to JFK. Low and very quiet.
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Old 12th Sep 2008, 23:24
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5* - um yes.. I have actually spoken with the grease monkeys

WTF have the generators got to do with the problem EDA had? Well, you did bring that up! Ergo - load of b0llocks 'cos this thread ain't about the 5 gennies is it?
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Old 13th Sep 2008, 09:10
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We are talking about section 13 here right?

what was the MSN No, 11?
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Old 13th Sep 2008, 18:54
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white knight,

1. Read the complete thread mate.

2. As far as I remember there is still freedom of speech on this platform. Sure EK and guys like yourself would like to see it differently...

3. Great to read your opinion on engineers.

whatever.
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Old 14th Sep 2008, 04:28
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5* - I've read the entire thread MATE, I'm all for free speech - but you are somewhat off topic MATE, and I like the 'grease monkeys'... Sad that you have such politically correct delusions as not wanting us to call them by what they've been known as for years.

You are the weakest link..... Goodbye..... MATE
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Old 14th Sep 2008, 12:35
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Hi, so sorry to appear controversial, but could someone actually describe the original problem as indicated to the crew the cause and implications in one knowledgeable post please. I feel this would then allow a positive move forward re the discussion of the event if that’s what we would all like.
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Old 14th Sep 2008, 19:37
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Do you watch 'Yes Minister' Outhouse? You know- Sir Humphrey of the long and convoluted sentence?
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 02:49
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OK WK, point taken.
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 03:14
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2nd AB 380 delayed for delivery to EK

Talks continue over delayed second Emirates A380 - Transportation - ArabianBusiness.com

Is this related to the issues that the first AB 380 is experiencing ?

Not good for the route expansion .... if the public in general could read some of the comments above expecially the references to SR 111, they may not be so keen to fly the whale.......
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 15:39
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If the public even know what the reference to SR111 is.... Most don't know the wings from the wheels
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 15:56
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Not wishing to sound like Sir Humphrey! The Fat SOB is back in action so what really happened???
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