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Old 14th Oct 2015, 06:21
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For those waiting on a start date, the next new aircraft to arrive is around Apr/May 2016. Currently a slow expansion, see it as a consolidation. Expected to add 15 new routes in 2016 compared to 22+ in 2014 and 2015. RUMOR has it flydubai has deferred deliveries of some of the remaining NG's on order (11) to wait for the MAX in Q3 2017. IF TRUE, that would mean a very slow year next year and it slows everything right down. Again it's a RUMOR...

Plans change here by the second though.
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Old 19th Oct 2015, 17:24
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Flydubai reports $40 million half-year loss

Dubai: Flydubai reported a Dh147.4 million ($40 million) half-year loss on Sunday, citing weak demand on Russian routes and the suspension of services to Ukraine, Iraq and Yemen.

The airline also said a strengthening United States dollar has also put pressure on its profitability. The dirham is pegged to the dollar.

Revenue for the first six months ending June 30, 2015 rose 8.7 per cent to Dh2.2 billion ($600 million). A year ago, Flydubai made a profit of Dh53.1 million ($14 million) and revenue of Dh1.88 billion ($515 million) in the first half of 2014.

In statement on the Nasdaq Dubai, where it has a listed $500 million sukuk, the airline said the “changing economic landscape” has put pressure on newly established routes.

Flydubai has launched 18 new routes so far this year.

The airline pointed to weak demand out of Russia, where the economy has staggered over the past 18 months due to the impact of western sanctions and the falling oil price.

However, flydubai said a “dampening of demand” from Russia and former Soviet states “is expected to be temporary” and there is “further opportunity” for the airline to open new routes across its flying radius, which is about six hours.

Flydubai launched two new Russian routes so far this year, bringing its Russian network to ten destinations. Flights to Ukraine, except Odessa and Kiev, also remain suspended.

The airline said it is also facing challenges in the Middle East with conflicts raging in Iraq and Yemen.

“Expanded military activity in the north of Iraq has disrupted the company’s operations and saw flights to Arbil suspended at the beginning of the year restarting towards the middle of the year and flights to Sulaimaniyah remain suspended,” the airline said.

Flydubai has also suspended services to Aden and Sana in Yemen and is rerouting some flights to Africa to avoid the country's airspace, which has seen in increase in flying time and a cut in payload.

Flydubai added 33.6 per cent more capacity in the first half of year 2015, which the airline said negatively impacted its yield by 12 per cent.

Maybe slowing down in Hiring next Year now?
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Old 19th Oct 2015, 19:02
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Well if they slow down recruitment, then how do we replace the wave of pilots who are leaving? If nobody was leaving I would see the logic, unfortunately, with the attrition rate as it is, i see BIG problems around the corner....
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Hey what-to-do is it just pilots leaving or is there lots of other department that are quitting?
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Old 20th Oct 2015, 02:49
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And, almost as if by magic, a new announcement telling us that it's all seemingly come good again....

Flydubai recovers Dh147 million half-year loss

Airline issues new statement saying first-half losses have been recovered

Published: 13:03 October 19, 2015

Flydubai has managed to recover the Dh147.4 million ($40 million) it lost in the first six months of the year in the third quarter, the airline said on Monday a day after it announced the loss.

Flydubai issued a statement on Monday stating that the first-half losses “have been fully recovered during the third quarter of 2015.” It did not release details of its third quarter financial performance.

Flydubai recovers Dh147 million half-year loss | GulfNews.com
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Old 20th Oct 2015, 13:55
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OKC,

In your opinion, how does this translate to you?

Specifically, how does one recover a loss in the true sense?

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Old 20th Oct 2015, 15:19
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Does this mean we'll recover the bonus?

The amazing history of aviation . . .
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In the 6 month period between 1st Jan & 30 Jun 2015, i.e. the financial window for which the ‘loss’ was reported, FZ operated approximately 35,000 sectors.

Accordingly, if the figure of $40m (as stated by the press), is to be believed, then that equates to to every single sector, as operated by FZ within that same 6 month period, making an average ‘loss’ of $1,143.

It is for sure, what with a fair part of the Arabian world (and other parts) now being ablaze, that operating conditions are indeed ‘challenging’, and to say nothing of the tanking of the Russian Rouble vs the US Dollar (see chart), but, nevertheless, one does rather have to wonder about some of FZ’s route selections (it might seem as if some of them are chosen by throwing a dart at map of the world, much in the fashion of pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey?!) and it also raises questions about revenue management / yield management thereof.

But, aside from operating losses (i.e. losses attributable and actually associated with operating of aircraft), I seem recall that there was also a rumour regarding some sort of ‘financial impropriety’ (I’m being polite) that might have occurred (uhm, joining the dots, does anybody else remember that ‘Ethical Reporting’ email we all received from GaG on the 11th May 2015?!)… though whether there was $40m worth of ‘impropriety’, we’ll likely never know?!

Now as for how, in a subsequent period of only 3 months, that $40m ‘loss’ has seemingly managed to be turned around, i.e. when trading conditions haven’t substantially changed, is anyone’s guess?

Whilst slashing the size of various pieces of pre-flight paperwork might help the environment, it hardly represents even a tiny drop in the financial ocean. So as to how it was done, one can only imagine that, down in Dubai Marina (deep within the bowls of the good ship 'Rockwell Collins' ), Walter’s meth lab is now cranked up to full production and the revenue from that is what has saved us?!
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 04:55
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July - September

Not saying they can recover a loss of $40m in a few months, but July, August and September - although only a faint memory - seemed to be very busy for everyone, even the senior guys had to do night flights, oh shock, oh horror (some reported fatigued?!).

Just saying that those three months saw a lot of flights and they were pretty busy, the period after Ramadan and the height of summer usually being the High Season here in the Sand Box.

Just my two cents.

Over and out.
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Old 22nd Oct 2015, 12:30
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Well I do remember the last few months, and busy isn't always productive here at FZ. I flew many flights with under 20 pax. One flight had 0 outbound and not much more on the return leg.

I am led to believe that we need around 115 pax to break even on each flight.

On a recent trip to DOH, the previous FZ a/c was already on the ground when we parked and another landing as we were pushing back. Our pax were no way near 100. In fact less than 50 outbound and not much more on the home leg.

For me, this alone is cause for concern with regard to revenue. But WTF do I know, I'm just a pilot.
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Old 25th Oct 2015, 10:54
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new joiners

Hey guys,
Anybody here (non-rated FO) with a Nov 22 joining date?
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Old 25th Oct 2015, 18:48
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Hi!!
Yes there are! I'm one of them.
I've sent you a pm.
Cheers!
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 07:45
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A little bird tells me that upgrades have been temporarily suspended due lack of First Officers........!
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 10:12
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I have also been waiting on a start date since May!
Hopefully something happens soon.
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 13:14
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Transport jock,

If we were't short of FOs then why are they receiving emails to volunteer to work on days off? More specifically, why are FOs being called on their days off at 1,2, & 3 am to operate a flight before they cancel it?

Doesn't appear that they are that flush with them at all.

With regard to waiting for start dates....... the sims are fully booked and that is where the bottle neck lies with regard to recruitment. Don't forget just how many non rated FOs and cadets that we are recruiting....

Also, I hear from friends in training that there is a recruitment freeze whilst we consolidate over the next few months....
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 17:28
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If the problem is the simulator why not to outsource a couple of batches of new joiners, there are some very good training companies where they can carry out some help, the same they outsource part of the assessment.

I can imagine that now on most of the FO off duty will switch off the phones, it's insane to call someone at that time.

About the recruitment freeze, when I did my interview at Southampton we were told that we were the last group of 2015, and that was in June, I am not sure if they have called anyone else after that, but I was very surprise to go Dubai and found myself as the only one that day doing the final step.

Does anyone know the current attrition rate?? I heard that is high, same in EK.
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 18:05
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Not just FO's......captains getting called at 3:00am on a day off aswell!!
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Captains too? Must have a "DO NOT CALL" against my profile
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Old 28th Oct 2015, 06:01
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I was told by someone in recruitment that they've got such a hard on for the cadets coming through that they'd favor a cadet over a First Officer. I can totally see why. Financially speaking that is. It's a long term No-No, as the company will find themselves with very few FOs to upgrade in time to come. Or maybe they won't - by continuing to take in DECs.
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For whatever it's worth, a good buddy of mine (FO) called crew control this week in order to pick up a flight, he tried it for 4 days. Each time he was told there were enough FOs on stand by to cover the little open flying that was available.

Me thinks the shortage is more significant on the left seat...
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