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It's highly recommended.
I was like you before joining, I just wanted to be vaccinated for the 2 mandatory ones. But when I went to the clinic and the nurse asked me where I was going to be flying, she printed a list of all the vaccines I should get, and that was exactly the same as the one provided by flydubai.
Don't forget we go to many different places, and we have layovers in countries like Bangladesh, Uganda,...
Also, some of the vaccines are combined, so for 6 or 7 vaccines I only got 3 or 4 shots.
I was like you before joining, I just wanted to be vaccinated for the 2 mandatory ones. But when I went to the clinic and the nurse asked me where I was going to be flying, she printed a list of all the vaccines I should get, and that was exactly the same as the one provided by flydubai.
Don't forget we go to many different places, and we have layovers in countries like Bangladesh, Uganda,...
Also, some of the vaccines are combined, so for 6 or 7 vaccines I only got 3 or 4 shots.
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Hello Guys
I've been fortunate to make it to the holding pool in FZ!! But now it feels like I've been waiting since eternity to get a joining date...
Would really appreciate any information about the average waiting time for Non-TR FO.
Thanks!!
I've been fortunate to make it to the holding pool in FZ!! But now it feels like I've been waiting since eternity to get a joining date...
Would really appreciate any information about the average waiting time for Non-TR FO.
Thanks!!
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Re Vaccinations
Guys and girls.
Re vaccinations, you basically want to get every single thing that you can a) b is legal and c) your home country will give you.
Most of us have the standard DTP i.e diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough) and tetanus. I know every EU, US, ANZAC, etc country has those from childhood.
MMR (Measles, mumps, rubella) again standard for all Western children.
Typhoid, cholera, TB and HiB you should have had as a child wherever you are from.
Hepatitis A & B. C is only for blood workers many countries ONLY do A as standard ask specifically for the combined shot A & B to get both.
Pneumococcal, Meningococcal & Varicella vary country by country but EU recommend Meningococcal prophylaxis as Meningitis A, C, W & Y. Don't skimp and just get the AC or ACW.
If you haven't had Chicken Pox by the time you are an adult you want to get the Varicella done.
The must have is Yellow Fever don't forget the booster to make sure it is valid for 10 years.
The ones I haven't mentioned are:- Shingles only for older pilots like >60yrs old. Influenza (again country and age dependant) and last but not least Japanese Encephalitis (JE). Rabies well we all know it isn't really a vaccine it just delays the onset of symptoms until you get the real deal so useful if your in the jungle or half way up a mountain but pilot wise you only need it if you going outward bound on hols.
People often neglect the JE but the reality is some of the salubrious locations as mentioned by flydream mean you don't get it directly but can the insects or ticks carrying the thing arrive on the plane next to you on stand in somewhere like Colombo and you could be the lucky one/unlucky one.
I personally two of our pilots both British who have been hospitalised with Dengue fever.
Malaria is just pot luck as most of the drugs you need to be taking for almost a week before going and sometimes a week after coming back and we just don't spend long enough or even know when we are going to have that sort of prep. To that end just trying not to get bitten is the best solution.
NaTHNaC | Website Homepage is the British Reference
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention if you want it dumbed down
Get you, your spouse and your kids everything that they will give you under the sun. It simply is not worth it vaccinations save lives and you do not want to be ill out here unless you have to.
Personally, some of the places we go to have bad things, some of the places we go to are cross over airports/hubs for places with really bad things and we live in a place where 70% of the pax landing in DXB are going somewhere else so disease from all over the world comes does a 3/4 day layover with pax and crew mixes in our malls, hotels, restaurants etc.
Just ask anyone with kids what its like at the start of term when everyone returns to Dubai from all over the planet with the latest strain of lesser spotted lurgi!
Re joining dates. It is as alluded to in three posts below. When they want you they want you, when they don't they don't. Basically some pilots interview on DDay and start on D+45. Some have waited as long as 2 yrs to even get a start date.
It is not necessarily even in order of anything be that chronological, alphabetical, experience, country or origin. There is not rhyme and reason. It is just how they do business. Get used to it for those who have done Africa you will remember TIA. Well here delete A and insert ME to get TIME. If there is one thing they don't care about it is your time. You only matter when there are not enough pilots, you don't matter, your family doesn't matter and the quicker you get that the better life is here.
Good luck!
VT
Re vaccinations, you basically want to get every single thing that you can a) b is legal and c) your home country will give you.
Most of us have the standard DTP i.e diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough) and tetanus. I know every EU, US, ANZAC, etc country has those from childhood.
MMR (Measles, mumps, rubella) again standard for all Western children.
Typhoid, cholera, TB and HiB you should have had as a child wherever you are from.
Hepatitis A & B. C is only for blood workers many countries ONLY do A as standard ask specifically for the combined shot A & B to get both.
Pneumococcal, Meningococcal & Varicella vary country by country but EU recommend Meningococcal prophylaxis as Meningitis A, C, W & Y. Don't skimp and just get the AC or ACW.
If you haven't had Chicken Pox by the time you are an adult you want to get the Varicella done.
The must have is Yellow Fever don't forget the booster to make sure it is valid for 10 years.
The ones I haven't mentioned are:- Shingles only for older pilots like >60yrs old. Influenza (again country and age dependant) and last but not least Japanese Encephalitis (JE). Rabies well we all know it isn't really a vaccine it just delays the onset of symptoms until you get the real deal so useful if your in the jungle or half way up a mountain but pilot wise you only need it if you going outward bound on hols.
People often neglect the JE but the reality is some of the salubrious locations as mentioned by flydream mean you don't get it directly but can the insects or ticks carrying the thing arrive on the plane next to you on stand in somewhere like Colombo and you could be the lucky one/unlucky one.
I personally two of our pilots both British who have been hospitalised with Dengue fever.
Malaria is just pot luck as most of the drugs you need to be taking for almost a week before going and sometimes a week after coming back and we just don't spend long enough or even know when we are going to have that sort of prep. To that end just trying not to get bitten is the best solution.
NaTHNaC | Website Homepage is the British Reference
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention if you want it dumbed down
Get you, your spouse and your kids everything that they will give you under the sun. It simply is not worth it vaccinations save lives and you do not want to be ill out here unless you have to.
Personally, some of the places we go to have bad things, some of the places we go to are cross over airports/hubs for places with really bad things and we live in a place where 70% of the pax landing in DXB are going somewhere else so disease from all over the world comes does a 3/4 day layover with pax and crew mixes in our malls, hotels, restaurants etc.
Just ask anyone with kids what its like at the start of term when everyone returns to Dubai from all over the planet with the latest strain of lesser spotted lurgi!
Re joining dates. It is as alluded to in three posts below. When they want you they want you, when they don't they don't. Basically some pilots interview on DDay and start on D+45. Some have waited as long as 2 yrs to even get a start date.
It is not necessarily even in order of anything be that chronological, alphabetical, experience, country or origin. There is not rhyme and reason. It is just how they do business. Get used to it for those who have done Africa you will remember TIA. Well here delete A and insert ME to get TIME. If there is one thing they don't care about it is your time. You only matter when there are not enough pilots, you don't matter, your family doesn't matter and the quicker you get that the better life is here.
Good luck!
VT
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Hello everybody, i'm following PPRuNe since years, but i've been in the shade all the time .
Could anyone please give me an update about the guys whom are joining flydubai via the cae cadet type rating course?
How many during the last months?
Do you know anything about the numbers of people joining through this course for the future?
Last but not least: I have a medical limitation. Is this still an issue for the GCAA?
Many thanks
Could anyone please give me an update about the guys whom are joining flydubai via the cae cadet type rating course?
How many during the last months?
Do you know anything about the numbers of people joining through this course for the future?
Last but not least: I have a medical limitation. Is this still an issue for the GCAA?
Many thanks
Please guys, also private messages, if you'd prefer
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NTR F/O
So this is my first post
Interviewed back in March/2015 got an acceptance letter 2 weeks later stating to just hang tight about a class date, didn't hear any thing till last week of June. An acquaintance of mine got a aug class date, i got a sept class date and another buddy of mine got a nov class date. Sounds like they are running them quiet frequently this time around.
cheers
Interviewed back in March/2015 got an acceptance letter 2 weeks later stating to just hang tight about a class date, didn't hear any thing till last week of June. An acquaintance of mine got a aug class date, i got a sept class date and another buddy of mine got a nov class date. Sounds like they are running them quiet frequently this time around.
cheers
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CBR
Most of us on here who are current fz pilots are here to help, except Old King Coal he is here as the party Chief Whip.
For us to do that though you need to give us enough information to answer your question.
Re your medical limitation as an example, if your limitation is that you have one leg and therefore can only do crosswind landings and engine outs using left rudder the it is likely the GCAA will view this as an issue. On the other hand if your limitation is that you need to wear glasses for reading only then they likely won't care quite so much.
The others of you re start dates. This is how business is done here. If you can't take a joke, a wait or a poke in the eye with a sharp stick then don't join. Some people get interviewed and are sitting in a sim in Dubai 3 weeks later for some with the exact same experience, background and situation it takes 2 yrs. It depends on what list they pick up and when, what colour underwear they put on in the morning and if there is or isn't a picnic or route launch lunch that day with the invite sitting over your name in the list.
Do you really think that your start date is as important as that last nice looking bhajee?
The more luck you create for yourself the more you will have. Making your contact aware that you have nothing more important in your life, you are sitting with baited breath awaiting the aviation equivalent of the rapture so that you can transcend into the light and will be available at 30 mins notice to start will put you in a better postion than saying sorry I need more notice.
Though it is the case that most reasonable employers expect you to honour your commitments where you are as a demonstration of how you will conduct yourself here. This is definitively not the case here. Basically they don't care about what you do as long as you drop everything, trousers included for them when they ask, as often as they ask and do not expect the courteousy of the reach around or even the taxi fare home afterwards.
Most of us on here who are current fz pilots are here to help, except Old King Coal he is here as the party Chief Whip.
For us to do that though you need to give us enough information to answer your question.
Re your medical limitation as an example, if your limitation is that you have one leg and therefore can only do crosswind landings and engine outs using left rudder the it is likely the GCAA will view this as an issue. On the other hand if your limitation is that you need to wear glasses for reading only then they likely won't care quite so much.
The others of you re start dates. This is how business is done here. If you can't take a joke, a wait or a poke in the eye with a sharp stick then don't join. Some people get interviewed and are sitting in a sim in Dubai 3 weeks later for some with the exact same experience, background and situation it takes 2 yrs. It depends on what list they pick up and when, what colour underwear they put on in the morning and if there is or isn't a picnic or route launch lunch that day with the invite sitting over your name in the list.
Do you really think that your start date is as important as that last nice looking bhajee?
The more luck you create for yourself the more you will have. Making your contact aware that you have nothing more important in your life, you are sitting with baited breath awaiting the aviation equivalent of the rapture so that you can transcend into the light and will be available at 30 mins notice to start will put you in a better postion than saying sorry I need more notice.
Though it is the case that most reasonable employers expect you to honour your commitments where you are as a demonstration of how you will conduct yourself here. This is definitively not the case here. Basically they don't care about what you do as long as you drop everything, trousers included for them when they ask, as often as they ask and do not expect the courteousy of the reach around or even the taxi fare home afterwards.
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Many thanks for your post, I appreciate it.
I really don't care about the environment and work conditions in FZ. I'm reading Flydubai's thread since months or maybe more, i'm aware about all the good and bad things, i've been in Dubai and other cities of the middle east, i have friends working down there, and filled the rest, it looks like a dream place for me.
When to start it's not a problem for me, if they are going to say, "ok, you'will start in 2017-18, that's great, means that i'm hired.
Here's my details:
Just licensed, with 200 hours flying time.
Actually i have two medical limitations, TML (time, 1 year instead of 2) and OML ( only as or with a qualified copilot, means that i can't fly with a pilot that holds an OML limitation). Seems that the GCAA is following the EASA rules since a few months, but FlyDubai's medical limitation policy it's a different issue.
I just need to figure out how the things are working, because since today, i know 4 guys that have attended the type rating course with CAE. Two of them are in ( 1 years and a half ago), one of them had been called for the selection process, but he failed ( 1 year ago, and he spoke about an unfair process), and the last one (Janaury 2015) has never been called for the interview.
Everything about a possible assessment is under my control in terms of study and preparation. The problem is " will i ever get the call from FZ"?
I really don't care about the environment and work conditions in FZ. I'm reading Flydubai's thread since months or maybe more, i'm aware about all the good and bad things, i've been in Dubai and other cities of the middle east, i have friends working down there, and filled the rest, it looks like a dream place for me.
When to start it's not a problem for me, if they are going to say, "ok, you'will start in 2017-18, that's great, means that i'm hired.
Here's my details:
Just licensed, with 200 hours flying time.
Actually i have two medical limitations, TML (time, 1 year instead of 2) and OML ( only as or with a qualified copilot, means that i can't fly with a pilot that holds an OML limitation). Seems that the GCAA is following the EASA rules since a few months, but FlyDubai's medical limitation policy it's a different issue.
I just need to figure out how the things are working, because since today, i know 4 guys that have attended the type rating course with CAE. Two of them are in ( 1 years and a half ago), one of them had been called for the selection process, but he failed ( 1 year ago, and he spoke about an unfair process), and the last one (Janaury 2015) has never been called for the interview.
Everything about a possible assessment is under my control in terms of study and preparation. The problem is " will i ever get the call from FZ"?
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Ladies & Gentlemen,
Any change for some insights on the CTC selection process. On the latest pilot site forum, someone mentioned that there is only joystick computer based exercises.. Anyone can fill some info in please. Thank you.
Any change for some insights on the CTC selection process. On the latest pilot site forum, someone mentioned that there is only joystick computer based exercises.. Anyone can fill some info in please. Thank you.
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CTC joystick tests;
Crosshairs - keep them centered the joystick inputs are extremely sensitive
It also goes in to a series of non command sense (reverse inputs)
Counting - audio plays a woman calling a number for example 500 if the next number she called was 495 the count would be 5 in this excerise it's your job to click a symbol when the count changes for example 489 now the count would be 6 so the next number you would want to hear would be 483 if it was anything else the count has changed again and they want you to identify when the count has changed.
Shapes and colors - in this excersie you will get an audio prompt stating a colour and a shape for example blue circle.
You will see 3 different shapes in different colors red blue green and yellow when you hear a prompt of a shape and color that matches what you have you must click on it.
The final stage is a combination of all 3 you need to keep the crosshairs centred whilst having the counting prompt and the colors and shapes.
I have heard but not sure that the most important task during the combination excersize is keeping the crosshairs centred. It shows that distractions won't affect the aircraft flight path and the primary objective is to keep the crosshairs centred. Aviate navigate communicate.....
If you pass this test you will go on to the interview (if interview is in UAE Final interview)
Prior to the joystick excersie you will have participated in the group excersize.
Top tip hear is to not argue your points and don't take too much of a leading role, a good idea is to go around the table one by one and each give your opinions on the task at hand.
The recruiters couldn't careless about the outcome of your discussion they are assessing your comms and body language only.
With regards to the interview, firstly congratulations your another step closer to this job. The questions are very simple a positive attitude and a loyal tone will go along way.
If you clear the interview, get ready for the simulator. It's all manual flight raw data.
They are assessing your basic flying skils and scanning. You will eventually be given the automatics to get set up for the approch. You will normally go around and lose an engine in the process.
If you have not made it expect an email within 7 to 10 days if after 2 weeks you have not heard anything you can expect good news. In some cases as long as 3 weeks...
With regards to start dates it depends on company.
As of now just 1 more -800 is due for deliver in August/September time that will complete the intial order for 50 B737-800.
There will be a long break until May of 2016 when the additional order for 11 -800 will start to arrive each month untill mid 2017 when the first -8max will start to arrive.
Crosshairs - keep them centered the joystick inputs are extremely sensitive
It also goes in to a series of non command sense (reverse inputs)
Counting - audio plays a woman calling a number for example 500 if the next number she called was 495 the count would be 5 in this excerise it's your job to click a symbol when the count changes for example 489 now the count would be 6 so the next number you would want to hear would be 483 if it was anything else the count has changed again and they want you to identify when the count has changed.
Shapes and colors - in this excersie you will get an audio prompt stating a colour and a shape for example blue circle.
You will see 3 different shapes in different colors red blue green and yellow when you hear a prompt of a shape and color that matches what you have you must click on it.
The final stage is a combination of all 3 you need to keep the crosshairs centred whilst having the counting prompt and the colors and shapes.
I have heard but not sure that the most important task during the combination excersize is keeping the crosshairs centred. It shows that distractions won't affect the aircraft flight path and the primary objective is to keep the crosshairs centred. Aviate navigate communicate.....
If you pass this test you will go on to the interview (if interview is in UAE Final interview)
Prior to the joystick excersie you will have participated in the group excersize.
Top tip hear is to not argue your points and don't take too much of a leading role, a good idea is to go around the table one by one and each give your opinions on the task at hand.
The recruiters couldn't careless about the outcome of your discussion they are assessing your comms and body language only.
With regards to the interview, firstly congratulations your another step closer to this job. The questions are very simple a positive attitude and a loyal tone will go along way.
If you clear the interview, get ready for the simulator. It's all manual flight raw data.
They are assessing your basic flying skils and scanning. You will eventually be given the automatics to get set up for the approch. You will normally go around and lose an engine in the process.
If you have not made it expect an email within 7 to 10 days if after 2 weeks you have not heard anything you can expect good news. In some cases as long as 3 weeks...
With regards to start dates it depends on company.
As of now just 1 more -800 is due for deliver in August/September time that will complete the intial order for 50 B737-800.
There will be a long break until May of 2016 when the additional order for 11 -800 will start to arrive each month untill mid 2017 when the first -8max will start to arrive.
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I have not read much about the final interview in Dubai, has anyone failed or what are the main reasons to fail that one??
I know it´s more or less like the one in CTC with some more focus on moving to Dubai and how we will adapt to that.
I know it´s more or less like the one in CTC with some more focus on moving to Dubai and how we will adapt to that.
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Still Waiting....NTR F/O
It will be 3 weeks for me awaiting a decision. Fingers crossed I hear something this week.
Do you get an email or a letter in the mail?
Do you get an email or a letter in the mail?
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I received a starting date in November! Can't wait to start!
I was wondering... with all the complaints with EK, max hours, minimum days off, not getting their annual leave, not getting what they bid for, etc. EK pilots are looking for a way out.
What's the situation with FZ? People happy? Are you getting what's promised?
Anyone else received November as a starting date?
See you soon in Dubai!
Cheers!
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I was wondering... with all the complaints with EK, max hours, minimum days off, not getting their annual leave, not getting what they bid for, etc. EK pilots are looking for a way out.
What's the situation with FZ? People happy? Are you getting what's promised?
Anyone else received November as a starting date?
See you soon in Dubai!
Cheers!
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Congrats cccc, welcome! With regards to your questions. flydubai folks are not really happy now. An extreme amount of work and short of staff in both seats. Meaning even the most senior captains/fo's are getting crappy rosters, no requested days off (and no requested flights) and between 90-100 block hrs a month. So no hope for any junior pilot, regardless of your seat. Most people seem to be on 8-9 days off a month and lot's and lot's of night flights and alternating shifts with 18-30hrs rest periods.
It's becoming unbearable for most is what I hear/see. And quite a number of people are now starting to vote with their feet. You can't really compare our ops to EK's ops but the net results seems strickingly similar. The main benefit we seem to have over EK is that we get our full leave quota and close to where you want/need it. Unlike EK.
It's becoming unbearable for most is what I hear/see. And quite a number of people are now starting to vote with their feet. You can't really compare our ops to EK's ops but the net results seems strickingly similar. The main benefit we seem to have over EK is that we get our full leave quota and close to where you want/need it. Unlike EK.
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Yes cccc, our one step above EK is that we choose with reliability where our 42 days of pay cut are placed in the calendar! Why is annual leave a pay cut? Seriously, vacation is a pay cut? At flydubai it's a pay cut because so much of your monthly salary is based on flight pay. No flight pay while on forced leave. If it's a benefit, it shouldn't be counted against your minimum days off or hurt your salary. And yes, those 8 days off minimum are reduced by 2 for every week of vacation! Come on down, you'll love Dubai's new gas prices, 5% DEWA housing fee, and my personal favorite......SALIK!
Pilots are leaving, period. Yes, some are staying because they cannot return to their home country for any miscellaneous reason and don't want to do EK or QR long haul. However those that have options are exploring them with a little more urgency these days. BTW, if you think you can escape FZ after a few years to EY or QR guess again. Permanent ban on going to those carriers. Even to get hired at EK is a bit of a trick after min 3 years at flydubai. It wouldn't surprise me if a permanent ban was put in place to include EK. Anyway, just be aware. Everyone that's accepted a job at flydubai has either been out of a job at some point or escaped from some place much worse. Just don't say you weren't warned because if you come on a flight with me I have strict policy of "quit your b!tching" because we are all living in the same pool of sewage trying to keep our heads away from the floaters.
Pilots are leaving, period. Yes, some are staying because they cannot return to their home country for any miscellaneous reason and don't want to do EK or QR long haul. However those that have options are exploring them with a little more urgency these days. BTW, if you think you can escape FZ after a few years to EY or QR guess again. Permanent ban on going to those carriers. Even to get hired at EK is a bit of a trick after min 3 years at flydubai. It wouldn't surprise me if a permanent ban was put in place to include EK. Anyway, just be aware. Everyone that's accepted a job at flydubai has either been out of a job at some point or escaped from some place much worse. Just don't say you weren't warned because if you come on a flight with me I have strict policy of "quit your b!tching" because we are all living in the same pool of sewage trying to keep our heads away from the floaters.
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Flydubai launches flights to Eritrea:
flydubai set to launch flights to Eritrea as African network grows - ArabianBusiness.com
flydubai set to launch flights to Eritrea as African network grows - ArabianBusiness.com
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If you took just the weekdays and had the 8 days off e.g weekends around the leave you may or may not expect a lower leave entitlement than 42 days?
I thought from previous posts things were on the up at Fly Dubai with the PBS or is it purely down to Numbers of crew and quart out of a pint pot ...😡