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Onvacation , it is your right to think so BUT it would be fair to respect that some people are not thinking like you.
Salary is far back in my priorities when looking for a job as long as the money I get is respectable...
I have been working for far less than the money I get today and I have been a lot happier than today.
If it was possible , I would leave my position and salary here to get back to my previous life , unfortunately it is impossible.
But I am actively looking for another job NOT because of the salary but because of all the other more important issues that should be sorted out , according to me , to make this place a nice place to work long term...
I respect your view , so please respect mine and believe me I am not fooling myself...
If you know a major company in a European country ( part of the European community ) ready to hire me even at half my salary here to get back a high standard training , union protection , pension , good national insurance etc...
please feel free to send me a personal message and you can have my seat
Salary is far back in my priorities when looking for a job as long as the money I get is respectable...
I have been working for far less than the money I get today and I have been a lot happier than today.
If it was possible , I would leave my position and salary here to get back to my previous life , unfortunately it is impossible.
But I am actively looking for another job NOT because of the salary but because of all the other more important issues that should be sorted out , according to me , to make this place a nice place to work long term...
I respect your view , so please respect mine and believe me I am not fooling myself...
If you know a major company in a European country ( part of the European community ) ready to hire me even at half my salary here to get back a high standard training , union protection , pension , good national insurance etc...
please feel free to send me a personal message and you can have my seat
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No disrespect. I'm also not happy with Flydubai for reasons other than pay. My point was that pay is always a top concern for any employee.
Legal unionization here is a foregone conclusion. I would also like that kind of representation, but we can not have that luxury! I doubt a union would address your safety concerns like a competent management team would. Contract negotiations always come down to pay, benefits and work rules. Air India pilots didn't strike over safety issues (and based on their safety record, I assume they also have many issues that need addressing) They held a strike for pay parity...something that we now have less of thanks to a short sighted decision.
Legal unionization here is a foregone conclusion. I would also like that kind of representation, but we can not have that luxury! I doubt a union would address your safety concerns like a competent management team would. Contract negotiations always come down to pay, benefits and work rules. Air India pilots didn't strike over safety issues (and based on their safety record, I assume they also have many issues that need addressing) They held a strike for pay parity...something that we now have less of thanks to a short sighted decision.
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So now it is an easier choice...
For pilots interested in good salary go for Emirates they just got a 8% increase and a 12 weeks salary bonus
Compare with the 2,24 % ich increase in Flydubai and no bonus
Plus the brand new nice destination forecast like Kandahar.... but don't worry they say it is safe if not of course they will not send us there
For pilots interested in good salary go for Emirates they just got a 8% increase and a 12 weeks salary bonus
Compare with the 2,24 % ich increase in Flydubai and no bonus
Plus the brand new nice destination forecast like Kandahar.... but don't worry they say it is safe if not of course they will not send us there
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Actually, the jury is still out on the 8% at EK! Nobody can make sense of the letter on which the rise was reported!! It is, I can say with confidence, either 3%, 5% or 8% depending on how you read the letter!!! Marvellous stuff.
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Sounds to me like they're getting desperate?!
Skysod, please don't forget to mention that non type-rated pilots will be bonded for $36,000 USD (though it's 'only' $24,000 USD for those with a B737 type-rating ) decreasing over 3 years.
And you also failed to mention the complete lack of health insurance cover for USA.
And the 'projected' monthly earnings is based on someone doing 80 block hours per month. This is something which few pilots are achieving due to inefficiencies in rostering coupled with a lack of destinations. So the take-home pay will in fact be quite a bit less than the 'projected' figure quoted on flydubais web site!
And safety is, yet again, being compromised, with the Chief Pilot now actively supporting pilots who've made appalling mistakes (crashes) in the simulator, rather than backing the TRE's whose task it is to maintain standards! The sooner he leaves, the better!!
Skysod, please don't forget to mention that non type-rated pilots will be bonded for $36,000 USD (though it's 'only' $24,000 USD for those with a B737 type-rating ) decreasing over 3 years.
And you also failed to mention the complete lack of health insurance cover for USA.
And the 'projected' monthly earnings is based on someone doing 80 block hours per month. This is something which few pilots are achieving due to inefficiencies in rostering coupled with a lack of destinations. So the take-home pay will in fact be quite a bit less than the 'projected' figure quoted on flydubais web site!
And safety is, yet again, being compromised, with the Chief Pilot now actively supporting pilots who've made appalling mistakes (crashes) in the simulator, rather than backing the TRE's whose task it is to maintain standards! The sooner he leaves, the better!!
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BurDubaiBob,
I don't know what you are talking about with the "simulator crashes" BUT even then the Chief Pilot as far as I know is not the responsible for training...
There is a Head of Training who should take action in this case and if not the Chief Pilot can not be blame for that OR you mean that the Head of Training has no power AND then the situation is really bad in the company....
The new Chief Pilot will be there in June so we will see if things will change BUT I doubt it.
What about the TRE ? If he disagrees with the decision taken he should do something about it...
In this case I would have offer my resignation or at least try to get a group of trainers with me to protest about it....
Trainers should also take their responsibilities , if they disagree with what is done they should say it and react.
What are we waiting for ? an incident or worse an accident....
I don't know what you are talking about with the "simulator crashes" BUT even then the Chief Pilot as far as I know is not the responsible for training...
There is a Head of Training who should take action in this case and if not the Chief Pilot can not be blame for that OR you mean that the Head of Training has no power AND then the situation is really bad in the company....
The new Chief Pilot will be there in June so we will see if things will change BUT I doubt it.
What about the TRE ? If he disagrees with the decision taken he should do something about it...
In this case I would have offer my resignation or at least try to get a group of trainers with me to protest about it....
Trainers should also take their responsibilities , if they disagree with what is done they should say it and react.
What are we waiting for ? an incident or worse an accident....
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And safety is, yet again, being compromised, with the Chief Pilot now actively supporting pilots who've made appalling mistakes (crashes) in the simulator, rather than backing the TRE's whose task it is to maintain standards!
I'm sure people mash up in the sim from time to time but crashing!!!. Surely that would mean extra training at the very least and if no improvement then maybe suggesting that flying isn't for you?
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Can any flydubai fo's be willing to comment on current take home pay? Also what's the cost of living like? Is the accommodation allowance enough?
And do you need your own transport to get to and from work? I.e do you have to buy a car?
And do you need your own transport to get to and from work? I.e do you have to buy a car?
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Daniel 777,
Probably pretty good as at least you've got a type rating. The company is looking to recruit non-type rated now but even though you are fairly low on hours it why not send an application in?
Probably pretty good as at least you've got a type rating. The company is looking to recruit non-type rated now but even though you are fairly low on hours it why not send an application in?
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Quick question:
Do Flydubai crew get ID tickets with Emirates and/or other IATA carriers? If so, is this in Y or C?
Is the salary quoted for DEC (52800 AED) including housing allowance?
Thanks,
D.
Do Flydubai crew get ID tickets with Emirates and/or other IATA carriers? If so, is this in Y or C?
Is the salary quoted for DEC (52800 AED) including housing allowance?
Thanks,
D.