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Old 1st Sep 2022, 15:50
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RIA Saudi Airlines?

‘The most-awaited new airline in the region launched by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund might be named “RIA”, according to a new report.

Arabian Business quoted well informed sources that “RIA” is being tipped as the name for the new Saudi carrier.

The new multi-billion-dollar international airline will become Saudi Arabia’s second national carrier and will be based in Riyadh. Saudia, the present national carrier, operates from Jeddah.

“The brand-new airline aims to do what Emirates did in a quarter of the timescale. It’s unprecedented in the history of aviation. The airline has yet to appoint a CEO – whoever takes the job will have to deliver the most ambitious targets you can imagine,” the report said.


The Kingdom is targeting 30 million international transit passengers by 2030, compared to under four million currently. The report suggests this will mean the new carrier will eventually need to operate over 150 routes globally, across Europe, North America, South America, Africa and Asia, which necessitates a $30 billion investment.’

Predictions for this?

I would imagine:
-lots of shiny big planes
-disinterested crew (if they’re Saudis, which I think is the idea)
-cheap fares
-awful transfer experience
​​​-nothing like the projected pax numbers
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$175,000 signing bonus apparently!
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Lol, should be called “LIV Airlines”. I still can’t imagine how people should choose a Saudi airline for international transfer, makes no sense to me.
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Will it be a commuting contract?
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I wonder if anyone has further details with regards to recruitment contacts etc …
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They haven't even ordered the planes...why would they even think about recruitment ?
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They haven't even ordered the planes...why would they even think about recruitment ?
RIA....is set to start in Q4 (newspaper) Really? Yes, which planes? Extra ones parked, just recently stopped from flying?
A380s? For JFK, LHR, CDG, FRA via RUH to BKK, SIN, SYD? JNB?
330s and 777s there should be some recent ones...Not too old I mean...
A340s...Ex LH, TG, Virgin... A340-300 ,500 and 600s

Of course, plenty of different versions, not easy at all, but it's the only solution to start soon...I don't see any slots for new planes soon if you order now...
WIll there be A320s too? Same problem...

If it's done like this, yes, recruitment for Q4 should start soon...

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I would rather live in a trash can than fly in Saudi!!
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I’m sure the Arabs feel the same for living in the west. The west are broke and have their begging bowls out.
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Saudi can fuel these aircraft for peanuts compared to most carriers, I’d say they have a great opportunity to be by far the cheapest way between Europe and Asia, I’m not sure that EK is the target so much as QR, but they do have a long way to go to compete with those brands.
Training Saudis to do those jobs will take a long time, so in the interim I’d imagine expats in those cockpits, and as such any openings benefits all pilots worldwide.
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Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach
I’m sure the Arabs feel the same for living in the west. The west are broke and have their begging bowls out.
Not sure at all, because the rich Arabs from Saudi Arabia come on summer holidays in the west, in Paris and the French Riviera, London, Geneva…So they must like it…When will the rich people from the west go on holiday to Jeddah or Ryadh ?
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Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach
I’m sure the Arabs feel the same for living in the west. The west are broke and have their begging bowls out.
Right. haha
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No booze = no pax!

wont work for that reason alone!
(thrust me the “locals” love a rum and coke served via a tea pot! They’ll choose other carriers so they can get it with no questions asked! No Saudi airline is going to be serving alcohol!)
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Originally Posted by Pif Paf
No booze = no pax!

wont work for that reason alone!
(thrust me the “locals” love a rum and coke served via a tea pot! They’ll choose other carriers so they can get it with no questions asked! No Saudi airline is going to be serving alcohol!)
The world doesn’t revolve around alcohol. Many individuals have experienced a major financial crisis recently and with the soaring prices globally, many will opt to work wherever providing there is a meal at the table.
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Originally Posted by T O G A Boy
The world doesn’t revolve around alcohol. Many individuals have experienced a major financial crisis recently and with the soaring prices globally, many will opt to work wherever providing there is a meal at the table.
Incorrect, no airline is going to survive flying long haul with no alcohol, unless the fares are so so cheap to make up for it. Which given their wealth is not out of the question but the most likely scenario is they will serve alcohol the moment you are clear of Saudi airspace
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Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
Incorrect, no airline is going to survive flying long haul with no alcohol, unless the fares are so so cheap to make up for it. Which given their wealth is not out of the question but the most likely scenario is they will serve alcohol the moment you are clear of Saudi airspace
Are people really that desperate for alcohol they cannot even go a few hours without? If I want a pint I'll go to the pub, not get on a plane! I never drink alcohol when flying so it makes no odds to me.
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Originally Posted by Squawk 6042
Are people really that desperate for alcohol they cannot even go a few hours without? If I want a pint I'll go to the pub, not get on a plane! I never drink alcohol when flying so it makes no odds to me.
Short answer. Yes. Nobody from the West is paying thousands of pounds to go on a long haul trip with no alcohol, dead on arrival if they even tried it.
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At my stage of life going by airline means I'm on holiday, that means I enjoy a glass of red or a beer with the meal. No alcohol, no fly with you, sorry.
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Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
Short answer. Yes. Nobody from the West is paying thousands of pounds to go on a long haul trip with no alcohol, dead on arrival if they even tried it.
Well, nobody + 1
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They can try their level best, but they can't even come close to QR/EK/EY. With or without alcohol.
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