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I have an interview with FD in June, I was really keen when I found out that the company was recruiting Non TR guys.
Since reading some of the comments and opinions in this forum however, I am starting to have doubts about even going.
In all honesty, is the standard and Safety within the company as bad as is being made out? I have long days now and plenty of disruption so that is no big deal, even if the pay is as advertised its still significantly more than I earn now.
I am employed in the UK by a large regional carrier, where I am permanent and going through the process of command. However the earning potential and the aircraft type and lifestyle all appeal to me, which is why I first applied.
I guess my point is, from those with sensible, honest and no axe to grind. Would you recommend FD for someone as an intermediate step to bigger and better things?
MAB
Since reading some of the comments and opinions in this forum however, I am starting to have doubts about even going.
In all honesty, is the standard and Safety within the company as bad as is being made out? I have long days now and plenty of disruption so that is no big deal, even if the pay is as advertised its still significantly more than I earn now.
I am employed in the UK by a large regional carrier, where I am permanent and going through the process of command. However the earning potential and the aircraft type and lifestyle all appeal to me, which is why I first applied.
I guess my point is, from those with sensible, honest and no axe to grind. Would you recommend FD for someone as an intermediate step to bigger and better things?
MAB
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For those thinking of joining FlyDubai
FlyDubai is NO Emirates!!
It's got it fare share of problems, roster isn't great, no logic to it, mix of night and day duties, some extremely long days DAC etc.
Safety and standards are a concern, some excellent guys here but also some terrible ones. A lot of direct entry Captains would not pass the upgrade course here!!
A bond for rated pilots and 4 different payscales!! This is the biggest bone of contention!! We were told by the chief pilot that everyone was to get a pay increase and that is not what happened, so you can make of his word what you want!!
You get a transport allowance and accommodation allowance, do with it what you will!! No pension, no real loss of licence and no profit share, as of EK's last profit share an Emirates FO is earning the same money as a new entry FlyDubai Capt!!
If you have the requirements for Emirates go there, it too has it's problems but at least your pocket will be a lot fatter!!
Good point's, new machine that are well kitted out and if you're coming from Europe Dubai is less expensive and not a bad town to live in, some people will disagree.
Do your homework before you commit to coming down.
It's got it fare share of problems, roster isn't great, no logic to it, mix of night and day duties, some extremely long days DAC etc.
Safety and standards are a concern, some excellent guys here but also some terrible ones. A lot of direct entry Captains would not pass the upgrade course here!!
A bond for rated pilots and 4 different payscales!! This is the biggest bone of contention!! We were told by the chief pilot that everyone was to get a pay increase and that is not what happened, so you can make of his word what you want!!
You get a transport allowance and accommodation allowance, do with it what you will!! No pension, no real loss of licence and no profit share, as of EK's last profit share an Emirates FO is earning the same money as a new entry FlyDubai Capt!!
If you have the requirements for Emirates go there, it too has it's problems but at least your pocket will be a lot fatter!!
Good point's, new machine that are well kitted out and if you're coming from Europe Dubai is less expensive and not a bad town to live in, some people will disagree.
Do your homework before you commit to coming down.
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Dubai is LESS expensive!! 
for what? petrol - yeah, food - no, housing - no, beer -no, clothes - no, electronics - not really.
Having said that, Dubai has its plus sides too, and I quite like FD.
for what? petrol - yeah, food - no, housing - no, beer -no, clothes - no, electronics - not really.Having said that, Dubai has its plus sides too, and I quite like FD.
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Question for former RYR pilots and TRE´s
whats the big difference...flying, standard, etc. You like it there? (I don´t mean Dubai.....I mean FD)
I´m just about to apply
Thanks
whats the big difference...flying, standard, etc. You like it there? (I don´t mean Dubai.....I mean FD)
I´m just about to apply
Thanks
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job
currently im a FO on B767 with exp of more than 2700hrs of which 1300hrs is on B767 kindly is there any one who can tell me about available jobs on any jet
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Jeffdh17,
I don't see why this would be too much for a non type rated pilot ?
Years ago , I have been for an interview and been sent to a B767 simulator (never seen in my life before) had to do the same usual things , take off SID , engine failure , 1# approach , 1# go around , 1# landing etc...
Of course they will not expect you to fly their perfect speed or procedures but see if you can properly control the aircraft and how you improve during the session...
I don't see why this would be too much for a non type rated pilot ?
Years ago , I have been for an interview and been sent to a B767 simulator (never seen in my life before) had to do the same usual things , take off SID , engine failure , 1# approach , 1# go around , 1# landing etc...
Of course they will not expect you to fly their perfect speed or procedures but see if you can properly control the aircraft and how you improve during the session...
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According to FZ the BOND of 24K is as if you're rated or non rated.
It certainly ties the hands of some wanting to leave.
It's a joke, like the pay scales and the b/s most of the crew put up with at FZ.
Having a choice EK as an F/O sure beats what is on offer at FZ.
If you're thinking of heading to Dubai for a career then EK is the plan. If you are filling in time and don't mind an average workplace to get some cashflow between jobs then fine but remember the bond and the rental committment!
Choice ey bro!
It certainly ties the hands of some wanting to leave.
It's a joke, like the pay scales and the b/s most of the crew put up with at FZ.
Having a choice EK as an F/O sure beats what is on offer at FZ.
If you're thinking of heading to Dubai for a career then EK is the plan. If you are filling in time and don't mind an average workplace to get some cashflow between jobs then fine but remember the bond and the rental committment!
Choice ey bro!
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Ummm, I've got nothing to do with FlyDubai, but until recently was considering it as an option. I just thought I would correct a rather large mistake or misleading information regarding the housing allowance. The
as quoted by straightin is completely wrong. That figure is monthly and unless they have put it up (which I doubt) then for F/O's it is 12,000AED/Month. (It might be 14,000AED for skippers I have no clue). Anyway the point is that I have many friends in DXB who live in some quite frankly palatial one bedroom apartments for 8,000AED/Month, so the information that the housing allowance will only cover 10% of the cost is crap. It should cover all of it and if your sensible then you will have enough left over to cover the bills.
I have done plenty of research on this subject, I am very shortly moving to Dubai myself. Not with FZ but like I said I was considering it and so have a good grip on the figures involved in the F/O package.
Good luck all
housing allowance of 14000 DHMs which will only cover approx 10% to 20% of what you will be asked to pay for a decent single bedroom flat
I have done plenty of research on this subject, I am very shortly moving to Dubai myself. Not with FZ but like I said I was considering it and so have a good grip on the figures involved in the F/O package.
Good luck all
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so the information that the housing allowance will only cover 10% of the cost is crap. It should cover all of it and if your sensible then you will have enough left over to cover the bills.
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For What It's Worth
Spoke with a guy that just completed the CTC assessment. He apparently did not do any single engine work. Leads me to believe perhaps there is a difference in the sim evaluation for rated/vs non-rated.
Good Luck to all attending soon.
Some pilots are just awesome eh? Just ask them and they'll tell you....
Good Luck to all attending soon.
Some pilots are just awesome eh? Just ask them and they'll tell you....
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Right lads, heres the actual deal
New Capt
23500ish Salary
14000 Accom allow
2300 Transport
150 per hour flight pay
expect 70 hours not the 80 advertised
The accom situation is fine in Dubai now. Be sensible and you'll get a nice place nearly anywhere in the city, it obviously depends on your family circumstances!! Take your bills and 5% municipality tax out of your monthly allowance.
New FO
17000 Salary
12000 Accom allow
1700 Transport
100 per hour flight pay
again expect about 70 hours a month
The problem with the pay in Flydubai is there are now 4 different payscales depending on how long you are in the company. For anyone thinking of joining Flydubai remember that an FO in Emirates will earn the same yearly income as a Capt in Flydubai!! Plus Emirates will put you in accomodation, pay your bills(to a certain amount) and you won't have to pay the 5% municipality tax.
New Capt
23500ish Salary
14000 Accom allow
2300 Transport
150 per hour flight pay
expect 70 hours not the 80 advertised
The accom situation is fine in Dubai now. Be sensible and you'll get a nice place nearly anywhere in the city, it obviously depends on your family circumstances!! Take your bills and 5% municipality tax out of your monthly allowance.
New FO
17000 Salary
12000 Accom allow
1700 Transport
100 per hour flight pay
again expect about 70 hours a month
The problem with the pay in Flydubai is there are now 4 different payscales depending on how long you are in the company. For anyone thinking of joining Flydubai remember that an FO in Emirates will earn the same yearly income as a Capt in Flydubai!! Plus Emirates will put you in accomodation, pay your bills(to a certain amount) and you won't have to pay the 5% municipality tax.
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FZ Aptitude
I'm wondering if anyone has attended the screening in Dubai. If yes, may you say if the aptitude test is either the PILAPT or Sky Test for Middle East.
I was told that Sky Test is used by EK and PILAPT is used by CTC in England. Since interviews will be conducted in Dubai soon, which aptitude test will FZ use in Dubai?
I was told that Sky Test is used by EK and PILAPT is used by CTC in England. Since interviews will be conducted in Dubai soon, which aptitude test will FZ use in Dubai?
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CTC Interview
Hi all, I have an interview coming up soon, firstly, what kind of questions are they asking at the CTC interview and how involved is the Dubai interview? I thought after jumping through hoops at CTC the Dubai interview would be a more relaxed affair.
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xerox25 - you're a tadge out there mate... we're not all on the lower scales, and so here's some reality (always remembering that the basic figures are / were already in the public domain):
Dec block hours = 62:19 --> Jan 2011 take home pay 54,810 Dhs ($14,921 USD)
Jan block hours = 61:52 --> Feb 2011 take home pay 57,115 Dhs ($15,549 USD)
Feb block hours = 62:55 --> Mar 2011 take home pay 55,868 Dhs ($15,209 USD)
Mar block hours = 65:44 --> Apr 2011 take home pay 56,570 Dhs ($15,401 USD)
Apr block hours = 61:50 --> May 2011 take home pay 57,835 Dhs ($15,745 USD)
May block hours = 81:43 --> Jun 2011 take home pay 58,963 Dhs ($16,052 USD)
Jun block hours = 71:45 --> Jul 2011 take home pay 57,468 Dhs ($15,645 USD) <-- projected figure, i.e. it might be more, subject call-out from standby.
Over a period of 7 months, that equates to an average take-home pay of 56,947 Dhs ($15,503 USD).
As can be seen, they're not exactly working me to death and, fwiw, June's projected figures look as follows: block hours = 71:45; Duty = 127:29; Days off = 9; Standby's = 2; Flight Days = 16; Sectors = 32.
I have no jet lag and I am home every day.
That said, what we need to do is to find a way to lift those guys & girls whom are presently on the 'other' (lower) salary scales back to the 'A' scale,... and it's my belief that the impending shortage of experienced pilots will cause that to happen (sooner or later), it being very much a case of 'supply & demand' and remembering that all the airlines are fishing from out of the same bucket for 'experienced' pilots!
KRgds,
OKC, FlyDubai, Line-Captain ( 'A' scale )
Dec block hours = 62:19 --> Jan 2011 take home pay 54,810 Dhs ($14,921 USD)
Jan block hours = 61:52 --> Feb 2011 take home pay 57,115 Dhs ($15,549 USD)
Feb block hours = 62:55 --> Mar 2011 take home pay 55,868 Dhs ($15,209 USD)
Mar block hours = 65:44 --> Apr 2011 take home pay 56,570 Dhs ($15,401 USD)
Apr block hours = 61:50 --> May 2011 take home pay 57,835 Dhs ($15,745 USD)
May block hours = 81:43 --> Jun 2011 take home pay 58,963 Dhs ($16,052 USD)
Jun block hours = 71:45 --> Jul 2011 take home pay 57,468 Dhs ($15,645 USD) <-- projected figure, i.e. it might be more, subject call-out from standby.
Over a period of 7 months, that equates to an average take-home pay of 56,947 Dhs ($15,503 USD).
As can be seen, they're not exactly working me to death and, fwiw, June's projected figures look as follows: block hours = 71:45; Duty = 127:29; Days off = 9; Standby's = 2; Flight Days = 16; Sectors = 32.
I have no jet lag and I am home every day.
That said, what we need to do is to find a way to lift those guys & girls whom are presently on the 'other' (lower) salary scales back to the 'A' scale,... and it's my belief that the impending shortage of experienced pilots will cause that to happen (sooner or later), it being very much a case of 'supply & demand' and remembering that all the airlines are fishing from out of the same bucket for 'experienced' pilots!
KRgds,
OKC, FlyDubai, Line-Captain ( 'A' scale )
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Dear Old King Coal,
You should state that the amount you are giving here is with the 16000 Dhrs for the house allowance and the 4000 Dhrs for the transportation allowance , so that reduces all your figures by 20000 Dhrs.
You can not include these allowances in your salary and compare with EK as for them the house and the transport is provided by the company.
Just to be fair when comparing.
You should also add that in EK they have received a nice basic salary increase of 5 % to 8 % plus 12 weeks salary bonus... while Flydubai's pilots have got a mere 2,5 % or nothing depending on your date of joining...
You should state that the amount you are giving here is with the 16000 Dhrs for the house allowance and the 4000 Dhrs for the transportation allowance , so that reduces all your figures by 20000 Dhrs.
You can not include these allowances in your salary and compare with EK as for them the house and the transport is provided by the company.
Just to be fair when comparing.
You should also add that in EK they have received a nice basic salary increase of 5 % to 8 % plus 12 weeks salary bonus... while Flydubai's pilots have got a mere 2,5 % or nothing depending on your date of joining...