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Old 14th Feb 2022, 19:07
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Seen they are advertising again!!

Maybe not getting the required numbers passing assessment!!!
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Old 15th Feb 2022, 07:14
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Question

Hey guys so the company started asking again for pilots although i applied earlier this year passed everything up to the video interview and never heard anything else
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Old 15th Feb 2022, 09:16
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Originally Posted by transport jock
Apparently taking DEC’s from 1st of March.
Could you please explain?
thank you 😃
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Old 15th Feb 2022, 10:44
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DEC

I, along many others, applied as TR DEC back in October. I never heard back from them after completing the virtual interview.
I wonder if it means I would have to reapply or am I still in the system?
Any one else in the same situation?
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Old 15th Feb 2022, 11:34
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Originally Posted by transport jock
Apparently taking DEC’s from 1st of March.

Very disheartening for current first officers that are awaiting their chance for years. It is also a warning to people applying with a lot of previous experience and think they will upgrade in the next 4 years.
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Old 15th Feb 2022, 12:05
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Originally Posted by Desertboki
Very disheartening for current first officers that are awaiting their chance for years. It is also a warning to people applying with a lot of previous experience and think they will upgrade in the next 4 years.
Standard practice in the Middle-East. Anyone should know this.
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Old 15th Feb 2022, 21:36
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Originally Posted by transport jock
One extra requirement which I don’t think has been mentioned before, but will probably not be an issue for most, is that you have to be 28 years old.

Like I said previously though, if you join this year, I wouldn’t expect an upgrade for at least 3-4 years due to the number of people waiting for an upgrade.

Plans change though..
Hi TJ
are u working with flydubai?
I have assessment on March 20 and would get infos about it
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Old 16th Feb 2022, 08:27
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I see that the position for NTR DEC has been removed from their careers page, Type rated DEC only is available.
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Old 16th Feb 2022, 08:33
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2nd of March assessment

Hi guys and gals.
I have my sim on the 1st and assessment on the 2nd of March, anyone else here also on the same days?
Would love to get in contact!
Also when can one expect to receive the formal invitation document from FZ? Im leaving for DXB next week Friday....
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Old 16th Feb 2022, 11:46
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Originally Posted by transport jock
I can neither confirm nor deny that, but i also dont know what they are doing in the assesments at the moment. All I have heard is that the failure rate on the sim checks has been a lot higher than they expected (mainly to do with maunal flying and manual thrust use apparently).
But you know everything in Flydubai the second they announce recruitment. The number of applicants etc. You should help all these guys with the knowledge of how great flydubai is to work for. Maybe tell flydubai,out of 4000+ applicants how many have applied for multiple airlines. How many in the holding pool that will go to Emirates or Qatar before ever setting foot in terminal 2?
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Old 16th Feb 2022, 14:12
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Originally Posted by Desertboki
Very disheartening for current first officers that are awaiting their chance for years. It is also a warning to people applying with a lot of previous experience and think they will upgrade in the next 4 years.
Stop the constant negativity if you don’t have all the facts. It’s not disheartening. Far from it. They are open and honest about it internally. Recently there were several message from top management and flt ops stating that upgrades are at full steam and with actual numbers. Before the number of monthly upgrades they are doing now was the exception. Now it’s the norm. It’s the maximum training can handle. They’ve extended NG leases as there is more work than expected coming up apparently. Again, more airplanes means the need for more crew thus continuous upgrades. They have to take DEC’s to fill gaps left by FO’s failing the upgrade and an increase in flying/aircraft. FO’s now have a transparent system where they now have a good idea where they are in the queue. Plus they have the option to postpone it if it doesn’t work for them at that specific time. Without losing your position in the queue. Covid and the MAX grounding pushed everything back from the previous 2.5yrs to 4-5 at the moment. Not the company’s fault and they are doing all the can to upgrade FO’s. The fact that the outlook for 2022 is better that expected means good news and upgrade times reducing faster than expected too.

Oh, and I hear guys/girls applying are being told during the interview the upgrade is between 4-5 yrs at the moment. Again, no one is hiding stuff.
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Old 16th Feb 2022, 19:29
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Originally Posted by transport jock
Who said I know everything? All the figures are from the rumour mill and the recruitment i saw on LinkedIn first.

If people are only applying to FZ, then they would be daft in my opinion. Why would you put all your eggs in one basket. Most pilots I know apply to multiple airlines and chose what suits them best when the time comes to make a decision..

Stop trying to look for drama where there is none and go back to wandering the beaches of KZN will ya.
Exactly. Many thousands out of work applying to everything they can!!!

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush!!
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Old 16th Feb 2022, 20:20
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Originally Posted by High Energy
Stop the constant negativity if you don’t have all the facts. It’s not disheartening. Far from it. They are open and honest about it internally. Recently there were several message from top management and flt ops stating that upgrades are at full steam and with actual numbers. Before the number of monthly upgrades they are doing now was the exception. Now it’s the norm. It’s the maximum training can handle. They’ve extended NG leases as there is more work than expected coming up apparently. Again, more airplanes means the need for more crew thus continuous upgrades. They have to take DEC’s to fill gaps left by FO’s failing the upgrade and an increase in flying/aircraft. FO’s now have a transparent system where they now have a good idea where they are in the queue. Plus they have the option to postpone it if it doesn’t work for them at that specific time. Without losing your position in the queue. Covid and the MAX grounding pushed everything back from the previous 2.5yrs to 4-5 at the moment. Not the company’s fault and they are doing all the can to upgrade FO’s. The fact that the outlook for 2022 is better that expected means good news and upgrade times reducing faster than expected too.

Oh, and I hear guys/girls applying are being told during the interview the upgrade is between 4-5 yrs at the moment. Again, no one is hiding stuff.
4-5 year upgrade begs the question as to why you would choose FZ over EK? The draw to the former was always the rapid command. Now it appears similar to EK.
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Old 17th Feb 2022, 05:34
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry Handpump
4-5 year upgrade begs the question as to why you would choose FZ over EK? The draw to the former was always the rapid command. Now it appears similar to EK.
Those that get into FZ in the past have been those who’s CV was never looked at when applying to EK.

If quality exists now then the only ones applying are the desperate who cannot hold out for EK.
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Old 17th Feb 2022, 09:29
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Originally Posted by YaGoonersYa
I just got an online interview with HR. Does anybody know that if I passed the interview next round will be Sim and Med check only or Do I have to go for an interview in Dubai again thank you?
I just got a request for an online interview as well. I was expecting to go for sim assessment and face to face interview in march but it has been changed to online interview and if I pass it then I will go for a sim check only in May. I guess things are changing everyday and for the NTR as I am will be the last group to be considered for a place. But atleast there is positive correspondence from them. But as we are not clearly out of the woods yet the road ahead is unpredictable. Anything can change anytime.
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Old 17th Feb 2022, 10:02
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Originally Posted by transport jock
It would be nice if the people who made comments degrading Fz actually knew what they were talking about.

No hotel that are used for layovers are anything less than 4 star.

Not one single person has complained about Daman since that came into effect. I can’t say the same for the previous providers.

There probably is an unspoken rule that you can’t move during the bond period, but if ek gets desperate like they have in the last, then rules change..

As for the deep night turns, do you really think EK only does day flying with no night turns? I would personally rather do a flight and sleep in my own bed afterwards than in a bunk in the aircraft..

I have said it before many times. Ek and Fz suit different people who want different things. It all depends what you want out of the job. Neither is perfect but there is no perfect airline job in the world. Just look at what happened to the one in the fragrant harbour that was once one of the most prestigious ones to work for..
This is the joke of the day. I remember the Peninsula in Chittagong with bed bugs.You will be telling me it’s the Burj Al Arab next. My unfortunate friend who is still there says he stayed in an Ibis in Budapest. As for the health insurance good knows what Damam is . You really need good Heath insurance in the Middle East for your family.
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Old 17th Feb 2022, 10:11
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Originally Posted by Rie
Those that get into FZ in the past have been those who’s CV was never looked at when applying to EK.

If quality exists now then the only ones applying are the desperate who cannot hold out for EK.
Exactly, anyone I had seen with talent in FZ moved off after 2-3 years.
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Old 17th Feb 2022, 11:19
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Originally Posted by transport jock
It would be nice if the people who made comments degrading Fz actually knew what they were talking about.

No hotel that are used for layovers are anything less than 4 star.

Not one single person has complained about Daman since that came into effect. I can’t say the same for the previous providers.

There probably is an unspoken rule that you can’t move during the bond period, but if ek gets desperate like they have in the last, then rules change..

As for the deep night turns, do you really think EK only does day flying with no night turns? I would personally rather do a flight and sleep in my own bed afterwards than in a bunk in the aircraft..

I have said it before many times. Ek and Fz suit different people who want different things. It all depends what you want out of the job. Neither is perfect but there is no perfect airline job in the world. Just look at what happened to the one in the fragrant harbour that was once one of the most prestigious ones to work for..
Every Carrier in the Middle East operate night turn arounds. No other carrier in the ME have roster as bad as flydubai. No other ME carrier operate 4 + hour routes regularly at night to the North Central Asia/ Russia at night in winter months, de icing with out engineering.The only exception is Air Arabia but they do not have as many destinations.
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Originally Posted by Desertboki
This is the joke of the day. I remember the Peninsula in Chittagong with bed bugs.You will be telling me it’s the Burj Al Arab next. My unfortunate friend who is still there says he stayed in an Ibis in Budapest. As for the health insurance good knows what Damam is . You really need good Heath insurance in the Middle East for your family.
Again, your negative attitude. Can you not accept that it might not have suited you but suits others really nicely? I’ve got no fancy whatsoever of even looking at EK.

Ok. Some facts. We currently have around 100 destinations of which 29 are layover destinations. And only one day deadhead to Sharm El Sheikh by the way. Unless that night Alexandria is still there that would make it two deadheads. One day, one night. But I’ve not done that one in years nor do I know if it still there or not.

All crew hotels are 4 stars except Budapest and Krabi. Never been to both of them so I can’t judge them. Three of them are actually 5 stars. Furthermore stars ar in my eyes subjective. Just like Skytrax awards. P.s. the CGP hotel has been changed many, many years ago. The current one is one of the most fancy ones we have actually. So strange to have such a hotel in such a poor country. We briefly changed to a different provider in DAR a while back but after many crew complaints we were back in our old one very quickly. It was actually changed to reduce commute times due to the horrible DAR traffic. So we do get listened to.

Our health insurance provider usually changes every year. This year we have Damam. And so far so good. I’ve (me+family) had to use it a few times unfortunately but got much better service and quicker approval times than say AXA. The policy is the same as our previous supplier AXA. I’m not up-to-speed with maternity cover details tbh.

Why is your friend ‘unfortunate’? If you feel pity on him that says something about you. If he doesn’t like it then there are other options around the world. The pilot job markets goes in cycles as you know. Wait for the next wave and surf out into the sunset…

The command time will come down again. We’re taking in 17.5% of the amount of MAX’s Southwest receives in 2022. That’s an airline with a fleet of 730+ 737’s. And NG leases have been extended as I already mentioned. Seeing we’re in a (p)endemic too I would say there is cause for optimism.

I know you’d laugh at me for saying this but I’m very happy at FDB.

A guy I know that went from FZ to EK many moons ago developed ‘obstructive sleep apnea’. According to himself due to sleep deprivation. He wishes he’d stayed at FZ despite making more money now. Swings and roundabouts.

The rosters are really not bad tbh. No bidding or swapping is a big issue. That’s true. Swapping comes back in March but at a reduced scale. Other than that a few too many layovers for my liking but that’s just me. All night DHD’s are I think gone (see comment above) and are now layovers. The longest night turn we have is Colombo. So no winter ops. The longest night turn with winter ops is only Bishkek followed by MCX in Southern Russia or Tashkent. The other winter ops ones all changed to layovers a long time ago. Then there are the night India turns. The same ones as EK, Air Arabia or Etihad. Or Oman, Gulf Air, Jazeera, Salaam Air, Kuwait etc etc. Some airlines do layovers there. Personally I’m glad we don’t. Not because of the destinations but just because I don’t want nor like layovers.

As long as you come to the Middle East knowing the facts you know what you can reasonably expect. Not everyone is suited to FZ nor EK. Nor perceived ‘dream jobs’ like BA or DL. The job itself is 50%. The other 50% is the region/country/politics/safety and you family wishes and desires for now and the future.

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Old 17th Feb 2022, 12:53
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MPA hours?

TR FO here, interested in FZ. Can anyone tell what MPA hour stands for? (maybe Multi Pilot Aerocraft......?)
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