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Old 16th Aug 2009, 10:33
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Jeez Mensa turn it in will you. You're like a stuck record. You say lots without saying anything at all!

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps, just maybe, a guy would look at joining here because earning an F/O's salary, having a house paid for, and being able to get credit is infinately better than... having your house re-possessed by the bank, going up the DHSS to claim your unemployment gyro every Thursday, and having to feed your kids grass?

Get your head out of your arse, and look at what's going on around you old chum.

BTW, if all you ever achieve is minimum days off every month, then get someone to teach you how to bid properly...... Mensa? Dimwit more like!
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 12:12
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Hi!

Interesting...
I have read ALL the threads on Qatar, and most everyone is saying the same thing that most of the EK guys are saying here, EXCEPT they are saying that Qatar is crap, and that instead you should go to a good airline like EK. They are also saying that a number of Qatar pilots are leaving for EK as it is a lot better.

I haven't applied to Qatar (yet) as I do not think I want to commit to 3 years there, and miss a better job. On the other hand, maybe I should apply as Qatar is better than where I am now???

It is VERY hard to figure out what to do.

Note: I have already applied at at EK, but now do not meet the minimums, as I don't have enough hours in big enough jets.

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Old 16th Aug 2009, 16:41
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Hi guys,

I was looking to EK website and couldnt find any pilot vacancy....Has recruitment been frozen at then moment?
Thanx a lot
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 23:17
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Mensaboy as real as it gets...

The POOL is rapidly becoming available now, haha. Bring it on! You guys with a normal life are absolutley out of your miinds to come here...... or perhaps your are just so desparate and stupid you don't realize what a nightmare it is here!

Can't wait to fly with you, and listen to you explain how you got sucked in. I have no sympathy whatsoever.......... anymore............ for idiots.

9/10 pilots coming to EK in the next few years, will feel humiliated, abused and helpless a few months after they arrive......, NO QUESTION about that fact.
Mensaboy is clearly a mean desperate dude. That's why he deserves every minute of pain and misery he is facing at daily basis.

The hold pool has nothing to do with his life but he keeps coming here, not to help any poolie, as he made very obvious, but to try to spread his own sadness and suffering around.

That's a mean an cruel attitude, but he pays every day he is forced to look in the mirror to check if his EK uniform looks weel for another day of work at the sandpit.

He has no life now, he had no life before as well. His future? Well, you are watching him building it right now...
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 03:40
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So there you have it - if you join Emirates you're stupid and you're an idiot!!! The world according to Mensaboy

Jeez...... some people!
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 07:44
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EKLawyer sounds like someone who was born in the left seat, has a great roster every month and always flew for a legacy carrier. Bet he sits there and never complains about anything. Wow what a guy, you and Mentalboy would make great drinking buddies. Just the guys you want at your party, they can bore you with the details of all their friends failed marriages. If that fails then they can bore you with stories of life in the left seat and how under valued they are.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 14:34
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Just my two cents, got my ATP in 1985, been flying airliners since 1987. Every airline in the world sucks guys. LOL just ask any pilot at any airline, they will tell you how bad their airline really is.

Just pick your fav bad airline and when you can't take it anymore, move on to the next.

Life is too short to be bitching like this.

My opinion, I work for the worst airline in America, LOL Useless Air
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 16:29
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Look guys, here's some unsolicited advise and comments. If you are out of work or about to be, this place is great. If you have a "satisfactory" job, think not twice but three times about coming here. Everyone rostered for 90 hours or so on the 777. BUT that does not include your rest/bunk time. So you in effect you are flying over 100 hours a month.

EVERY and I mean EVERY f/o I have flown with that was hired within the last 14 months (and was working prior) has said that if they had known how it was going to change here, they would not have come. And please read CHANGE. Think about seven year upgrades, loss of income, firings at will , change of terms and conditions at will, etc etc. But if you're unemployed-Welcome.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 16:51
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16 to 17 years for upgrade in the USA. Never know when you will get that furlough letter...........
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Old 18th Aug 2009, 02:37
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hahaha!

having your house re-possessed by the bank, going up the DHSS to claim your unemployment gyro every Thursday, and having to feed your kids grass
This is indeed the exact candidate EK is looking for.

I was furloughed four times in N. America. So you'd think maybe I'd want to stay at EK for the "stability" of the contract and the "security" of the job.

(The contract changes and sackings have been well-covered elsewhere.)

But life is short. Don't give your best years to a place that is really pretty sad and an employer that operates without any regards for human decency. I've wasted enough time in an ugly place. It blows my mind that people just keep trying to jump on the sh$t-wagon. Human behaviour is fascinating.
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Old 19th Aug 2009, 11:17
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Interesting post NLH.

Out of interest, was it after one such instance (of 4) of being laid off that you went for EK, or was it while you were in one of the secure jobs?

You contradict yourself enirely with your post!
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Old 20th Aug 2009, 18:57
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Sorry, where's the contradiction? I believe the term "paradox" comes closer.

I had two points, both aimed at those who feel they are desperate enough (read: unemployed) to join. Both are designed to try and convince them that perhaps they are not quite as desperate as they think. I did join after a furlough and have regretted every day since. Since many are in the same position I was, and are pursuing the position I have, is there not some logic in offering a first-hand experience? It's only restating what many others are saying.

The one point is that if it is job security you seek, talk to the recently "resigned", and ask about their experiences. You are secure as your last flight, and the rest is - like Dubai - an illusion and a lie.

The other is that not all of the people leaving are unfamiliar with the challenges of unemployment - and yet, still can't wait to voluntarily leave and are actively seeking, and in limited cases finding, employment elsewhere.

People are free to draw their own conclusions from these facts, I am only stating them. I mentioned the multiple layoffs to underline the fact that some, (I am hardly the only one), of those who should seemingly want to cling to a job are working hard to achieve the opposite.
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Old 20th Aug 2009, 20:51
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Wow! This thread just wont die.

The good news is that i took my name off the list 6 months ago before any class offerings went out. The irony about the pool is that when i interviewed early last year, i had numerous of my colleagues excited for me. They kept asking questions about dubai and life as an ek pilot.

Fast forward to present day and i just had a chap ask me if i was leaving for dubai. I said no without elaborating and he mentioned that emirates was on a slide downhill and that he had heard numerous bad things about dubai and ek. Just imagine that in a matter of a year, emirates has gone from a employer of choice to just another airline. I only say a year since that is the only time frame that i have experienced dealing with emirates and that alone was not a joyable experience.

The word on the street is to not apply unless you are out of work.

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Old 17th Sep 2009, 04:42
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Wow! This thread just wont die.
Looks like it did. Last comment posted 20 August. Suppose everybody is flying too many hours to have time to post any gripes. Or perhaps it indicates employees have simply adjusted to the new "climate."
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Old 17th Sep 2009, 10:56
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Hi!

They opened the website for new applicants 14 Sep. I heard hiring in Oct.

I am considering EK. I am in the middle of about a 270 day trip, and will be moved to be based in DBX soon.

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Old 18th Sep 2009, 09:20
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which aicraft are you rated on?

have you been already interviewed and were you already in the pool?

can you share with us some information about your rating and experience?
thanks
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 10:21
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To the poolies not invited for 2009 course

Hi Poolies,

Does anyone received an email to make a renewal of the application? I am in the pool for a bit more than one year, I have been invited to do so, and now wating to hear news from EK.

Appreciate if another poolies whom are in the same situation have something to say about it.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 10:40
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remember that under the new requirements you will probably need 2000 hours on aircraft above 55 tons to be considered.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 10:56
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do you think they are gonna call widebody rated guys before?
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 13:39
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I got an email from Emirates

The other day I got an email from emirates.
And the title was as follows
"Flight Deck Opportunities- First Officers : Matching your Preference Criteria. "

I made an application on emirates career web site,but didn't complete it thoroughly,though.And I've left it unfinished for these 6 months.
I am wondering if Emirates is going to start screening soon?

I am currently captain B737NG. PIC1500hrs ttl 6500hrs

Thanks for any infos!
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