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Gulf Air getting B777

Old 23rd Mar 2009, 13:27
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Gulf Air is taking advantage of the global economic recession to renew its fleet. Chairman Talal Alzain said this was an ideal time to order new aircraft as many international airlines have stopped or delayed their deals with aircraft manufacturers. In preparation for renewing the fleet with 59 aircraft - 35 Airbus and 24 Boeing, Bahrain's national carrier has leased four new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft.
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 13:31
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what's worse than flying an a320 from india with 20 pax?
flying a b777 from india with 20 pax.
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 15:48
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Surfer can u explain his reasoning.

To benefit Gf should buy aircraft at cheap price.

leasing will not help much as the state of the economy is temporary.

When business picks up the lease price will go up as well.

No wonder with people like this guy running it GF will continue in the same Dire State since a decade.
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 16:44
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When business picks up the lease price will go up as well.
Not necessarily. The lease price could be fixed and does not have to change depending on the economy. If GF is smart, it will negotiate for a very cheap price given the state of the world economy.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 08:47
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negotiate? c'mon gf couldn't organise a f^$ at seashells.
the ceos latest 'urgency' message rings hollow with the current structure of the company. they haven't even come up with the 777 transfer list with the wetlease period date brought forward.
meanwhile, the planes are a quarter full on average and the million a day losses will only go up because the incompetent commercial and marketing clowns can't do their jobs.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 10:31
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Boiler this reasoning only works if GF is not part of the world Economic Crisis.

Gf was in crisis for the past decade and it is even more now from the latest news.

Who in his right state of mind leases new aircraft in an airline which is cancelling destinations??

Seems the present CEO knows what is happening but the usual local mentality continue to deny it.

To solve a problem you first need to accept and admit that you have one.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 17:11
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Aren't the B777 suppose to be replacing the A340?
The routes being chopped in India are operated by A320 if I am not mistaken, so yes you can lease new aircraft and chop unprofitable routes as long as the aircraft type is not the same.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 19:58
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Cmon guys GF cant afford to buy a/c so the only way to get the boys a bachander is to lease some in !! ......keeps everybody happy!
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 17:13
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BAR news

Hot very hot news, roumers came out this evening delivered by my young pretty bird telling me that Abu Dhabi has taken over Jet airways.
I wish if my good friend Arish Goal or someone from his office can denay, confirm
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 17:55
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You mean Tina?
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 19:10
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I applied to basically every airline in the region including Gulf Air. Type Rated in B744, B747, LR-Jet, IA-Jet. Total time just under 4000. JAA and FAA ATPL licensed. Have flown in and out of this region several times.
Do I not meet the min. requirements for GulfAir because I dont have time in 777 or A320?
Heck, I even applied to Saudi Arabian because their website said they need 747 people... and I can't get a reply. Do you think some of these companies simply do not update their webpages?
I also applied everywhere in Europe, Asia and the Americas.
Is it true that if a person has 10,000 hours in a B744 and he is applying at a company that operates the 777 and A320, that he/she cannot even get an interview? I guess 10 hours in an A320 or 737 is more valuable than a million hours in a widebody? Do these companies think that it is impossible to train somebody to fly a different type of aircraft. Heck, even if you got experience in the aircraft a particular company operates, you are still going to have to go through the training like everybody else...right?
I know that there are folks out there who have way more experience. I think I just have time in the wrong aircraft
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 19:44
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coolio545, I really don't think it is ethical of you to be asking details about one of our crew members. Last time I checked this was a pilot's rumour site not a dating site for horny internet geeks! I sincerely hope that no one gives this poor girl's details to you. In some countries what you are asking could be considered cyber stalking.
lpokijuhyt, things happen very slowly here so just be patient. Also I believe that there is alot of re-thinking in the pink palace about our fleet &, hence our crewing needs.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 13:33
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The "entry-level" aircraft at Gulf Air is the A320. There are no direct hires to any other fleet type, nor to the left seat. Presently, Gulf Air is taking hiring only experienced A320 pilots. It is working to Gulf Air's advantage-- there are highly experienced A320 pilots out there, who have recently lost their jobs or are worried about their future job security.

If you were running an airline you would do the same, in the same way that if you have a Toyota, you would prefer to go to the Toyota shop for repairs and not the Lexus or BMW service centre.

By the way, the quality of the applicants GF is getting is quite high-- all have hundreds if not thousands of hours on A320's, and even total time and licensure equivalent or superior to what you have. A fresh A320 rating from one of the Type-shops (or even 10 hours on type) will probably not get you an interview at GF these days.

If you have 747 time and 4000 hours TT, congratulations, you've done very well in your career. Unfortunately, yes, you don't have the qualifications that are being sought at the moment. Be patient (it is now a buyer's market). One day they will probably loosen the requirements again according to market conditions.

In the meantime, good luck in your job hunt.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 14:37
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So when will the next 777 be delivered to GF? And when will the first one of the new leased 330s be delivered?

Thanks and regards Stefan
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 18:25
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Unhappy B777

When is the list of Pilots to be transferred to B777 going to be out???Any rumours??
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 20:43
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Dear Sam

...I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for this ever happen...please read the previous posts.
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 21:09
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Hi to everyone!!

Just to inform that all the trainig courses of the new A320 rated pilots from 1st April īve been canceled....;

They just told me 20 days before joinig my training start...., and received the e-mail 4 hours after leaving my companie!!!....;

So now ..... letīs see what is next. Wish the best to all the collegues in the same situation!!.
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 21:50
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I am in the same situation like you, they informed me today (starting day 27th).I dunno what to say, I am speechless!!!i have resigned from my current job, but I am still flying and there might be a chance for me to stay with my company because we donīt have enough FOs, anyway, itīs incredible! Thank you GF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not a good day for us
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Old 31st Mar 2009, 07:58
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there she is....KJ

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Old 31st Mar 2009, 15:02
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hi par31

is it new?
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