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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 11:34
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Fact to the matter is...

They can do without pilots from the eurozone.

So why would they increase salaries merely based on the defunct exchange rate between euro/QAR?

South America/North America/African continent.......full of pilots all looking for greener pastures!

Is this a short term vision? Probably yes but it will help them getting ahead for one year once more.

And after that, we shall see said the blind man!

Salary increase...I dont think so!
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 13:13
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The resignation rate is probably not high enough yet to justify a salary increase, as this is the only factor that might influence any decision...
as everybody knowns the favorite sentence here of a typical " POOR " management excpecially in those circumstances we are facing :
"take it or leave it.."

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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 18:23
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Frankly boys and gals I heard some rumors about a pay rise but then again seeing is believing, isn't it? Resignations number according to some sources somewhere around 90 pilots within last 15 months. True or not who knows but if it's the case it should ring the bell. It's business thus everyone should do whatever suits him/her best. Certainly as a company I'd refrain from blowing up the pay check in a wake of collapsing aviation scene worldwide. Loss of some Europeans isn't really a big deal as nobody is irreplaceable including me.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 10:06
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..yes..yes ..the 31st of june they gone make a big announcement regarding salary increase..bla,bla,bla...
Everybody knowns the joke already,thank you very much...
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 10:18
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definately no payrise

With 950 pilots going to be out of work from UA and not to mention other US carriers, theres going to be alot of pilots looking for work, so i dont think the boss will be too worried about getting recruits.
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 14:02
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hopefully we'll get lods of yanks coze that's gonna change lots of things in this outfit. They eventually will revolt and won't let it go like all the other vassals. US embassy has got heavy influence mandate at amiri diwan.
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 22:59
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Maverick some people have crystal balls I'm trying hard to polish my so I can see more.
There're others who can either oppose the rumor or confirm it.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!
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Old 26th Jun 2008, 10:54
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knowing the fact that 90 pilots left for the last 15 months is obviously a serious prob for QR...wonder where all these chaps flew..EK or EY im assuming?
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Old 29th Jun 2008, 08:00
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confirmed Annual Leave Ticket?

Beware that few pilots tried to travel on their annual leave using the "confirmed" A.L.Ticket, and they were not allowed.

The counter staff told them they have a memo from the space control manager that no confirmed seats fore deck crew !!

As a result, a capt. family were denied boarding to Tripoli (travelled on the 3rd. trial), another f/o family to IAD offloaded after being accepted initially!! but travelled next day!
Another capt family were forced to wait till 50 minutes before T/O to Amman, but travelled after seats were available!!!

It seems that some "secret" instructions are still there not to consider our confirmed seats!!
I hope any "Manager" or Chief Pilot would talk to the CEO to re-issue the instructions of our seats being confirmed (Again).
P.S. these events happened last week.
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Old 29th Jun 2008, 11:39
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Devaluation and inflation have already ruined the moral of the crew here, now this A.L.T issue...what's next...?
Thinks are not really going in the right direction in this company...isn't it?!

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Old 29th Jun 2008, 21:35
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Salary

Last Inst. meeting announced clearly : NO SALARY INCREAMNET in near future .
90 pilots left in 15 m ? Wrong info but soon maybe 6-10 F/O jumpsheap at one shot .
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Old 29th Jun 2008, 21:40
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rumours

rumours must be tried and kept logical

We appreciate any logical inputs

but please dont take it personally...Take it like a man....

Cheers!
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 08:56
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No confirmed tickets according to ground staff...

Very easy solution....when denied boarding ask for a written explanation and go home...

nice extension of your holiday!
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 12:25
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What if you are trying to leave Doha?? it will not be nice to shorten your vacation !!!
What about your conneting flight that you will miss??

All these problems happen only when you leave from Doha, I feel like the ground staff just hate us and just want to piss us off.
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 12:31
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CEO PITA..what the inst. (instructor?) meeting has to do with salary increase ...?Management meeting i would understand.....
I don't think the instructors are the one who decide about salary....
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 08:02
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Inst. are not the one who decide .It is management but you know that all management pilots are also Inst. And on Inst meeting management pilots informed Inst that no salary increament in near future and am sure if someone know out of all pilots its the one in office .
No salary increamnet and new system in training and some new things for Inst ..... anyhow awe are not intrested in training we are intrested in $$$ right ?
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 08:13
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Salary

Staff in HR who is working on salary told me he use to be called to calculate and make trail for new package and so on every year but this year no one even mention any changes in salary for flight deck crew.There is some increamnet for teh. and engeneers since they did get any in 3 y but for us pilots MAFI ,MAFI !
Insallah next year !
And why should they increase ? Any airplane on ground becouse of pilots shortage ? I didnt saw any . New jojners from USA are on the way . 14k$ non tax its ok for a pilot without job from USA .
Reasons like : expencive Doha or Euro rate are not the one which will push management to rise oure salary only reason it will do that will be 4 A330 on ground waiting for pilots to operate them .As long as you can get youre leave in midlle of summer means there is pilots ,there use to be time when no pilots could take leave becouse of shortage and salary was rised.
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 08:36
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CEO Pitta.....right on mate, right on!

But then again, anyone where could have seen that coming months ago!

The whole pay rise thing was a collective pilots wet dream, but the powers to be knew this already a long time ago.

Good luck next year people....if we are still here that is!
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 08:58
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No shortage of pilots...??
So maybe you should check how many weeks of leave have been cancelled or not allocated ..expecially for F/O...and leave behind.!Sure the figure is amazing!
Just imagine One second that non of those F/O wouldn't have accept to give up their leave...I think a lot of A/C would have been grounded..!
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 12:50
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We all keep on saying that but is it true???

So far nothing has happened, no flights where cancelled or airplanes grounded.

Leaves have been allocated and given as planned in most cases, even to the FOs.
Ok, on A330 things are a bit stressed at the moment but still, most of the FOs I fly with did an average of 70hrs last month. If you fly with a new joiner you migh hear him having reached almost 900Hrs but the more senior guys never reach this.

So how exactly did you figure out we have a pilot shortage?
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