If your a happy First Officer at Qatar Airways then please do inform me!
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problems with the Qatar on-line app.
Also, I went to their website and attempted to do their on-line application. It does not seem to be working, so I just emailed my CV to the email mentioned in an earlier post.
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The excitement is killing me too...Somebody....please....leak some info!
Housing: You will get an apartment or a house. Depending if you are an FO or a Capt. Accommodation is nice, facilities are ok. Definitely above Doha average!
A little bird told me that we actually found the number of pilots required this year. Almost 300 pilots received a letter, a lot of them very experienced guys and gals. The last one of these will get a start date during the last part of 2009.
These are rumours of course, so do not let me stop you sending in letters please. We have 1000+ pilots now, we need 1000 more by 2014!
The big challenge for QR will be to keep all these people once the economy starts picking up again. Now everybody is looking for a safe haven but I hope our management is not fooling themselves by thinking QR is the first choice for these people!
Big changes are happening, from the top (No, not the 9th floor but pretty close) to the bottom. QR is maturing especially on a management level (abundancy of experienced managers from all over the world on the market, many have joined recently).
Glad to see as well that CP training position will most probably (99%) be filled in by someone experienced from inside! If there is one person capable of handling that seat, it will be him!
Interesting times ahead I would say....
Housing: You will get an apartment or a house. Depending if you are an FO or a Capt. Accommodation is nice, facilities are ok. Definitely above Doha average!
A little bird told me that we actually found the number of pilots required this year. Almost 300 pilots received a letter, a lot of them very experienced guys and gals. The last one of these will get a start date during the last part of 2009.
These are rumours of course, so do not let me stop you sending in letters please. We have 1000+ pilots now, we need 1000 more by 2014!
The big challenge for QR will be to keep all these people once the economy starts picking up again. Now everybody is looking for a safe haven but I hope our management is not fooling themselves by thinking QR is the first choice for these people!
Big changes are happening, from the top (No, not the 9th floor but pretty close) to the bottom. QR is maturing especially on a management level (abundancy of experienced managers from all over the world on the market, many have joined recently).
Glad to see as well that CP training position will most probably (99%) be filled in by someone experienced from inside! If there is one person capable of handling that seat, it will be him!
Interesting times ahead I would say....
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Agreed 515.
But what a mess to clean up! And what a day to start the job. 1 April!
As for the pilots recruited, again I agree. Who is going to stay when worldwide conditions improve? We seriously need to rethink our conditions of service and salary structure here in order to offer employees a career. Maybe the Fagen/Ward team could forget their prejudices and think of the company's future instead?
GB
But what a mess to clean up! And what a day to start the job. 1 April!
As for the pilots recruited, again I agree. Who is going to stay when worldwide conditions improve? We seriously need to rethink our conditions of service and salary structure here in order to offer employees a career. Maybe the Fagen/Ward team could forget their prejudices and think of the company's future instead?
GB
SD out KF in. 
what kind of prejudice are we talking aboot?
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As far as " interesting times" go, I would say that can be for the better or the worse now, isnt'it?
So I can find myself to agree with your first sentence, however I find your second sentence a bit superficial and narrowminded! To say that ALL people in QR are people without any future in any other airlines goes a bit far. True, this could count for about 50%, but I would not underestimate the other 50% If I where you!
I guess if you would have a look around in the files of the 1000+ pilots around here you would be amazed by the calibre of certain people!
SD replaced by KF? I would never have guessed that one, for several reasons. While I do not doubt KF's capabilities, I do not see the reason why SD would be asked to resign only 1 year after being put on the seat. He did a good job as far as I am concerned. Ok, he was not liked by some people, mainly because he was rather demanding (rightfully so) and he had a certain way of saying things. But one has to ask himself the question: do you want a manager in position who is just a puppet of the higher management or do you want somebody in that seat who guards over the level and competence of his department?
I know as well that SD and SS had a very strange working relationship but hey, in the end they both did get the job done! Different styles, same end destination!
So some good news and some bad news....Things never change in QR!
So I can find myself to agree with your first sentence, however I find your second sentence a bit superficial and narrowminded! To say that ALL people in QR are people without any future in any other airlines goes a bit far. True, this could count for about 50%, but I would not underestimate the other 50% If I where you!
I guess if you would have a look around in the files of the 1000+ pilots around here you would be amazed by the calibre of certain people!
SD replaced by KF? I would never have guessed that one, for several reasons. While I do not doubt KF's capabilities, I do not see the reason why SD would be asked to resign only 1 year after being put on the seat. He did a good job as far as I am concerned. Ok, he was not liked by some people, mainly because he was rather demanding (rightfully so) and he had a certain way of saying things. But one has to ask himself the question: do you want a manager in position who is just a puppet of the higher management or do you want somebody in that seat who guards over the level and competence of his department?
I know as well that SD and SS had a very strange working relationship but hey, in the end they both did get the job done! Different styles, same end destination!
So some good news and some bad news....Things never change in QR!
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Part of doing a job is credibility. SD and his manner, both in the corridors and towards his crew on the jet are not conducive to obtaining and maintaining it. He had his chance and blew it, unlike MH who will stay.
Word is the replacement for M is PJ.
I believe no other 'deck chairs on the Titanic' will change on the 1st; other than maybe some sideways movement which could be interesting to watch?
(Gary) B-N Glitter
You should remember that timing is everything in aviation and just because some people missed the ABC (AF-BA-CX) boat, this does not make them lesser mortals.
GB
Part of doing a job is credibility. SD and his manner, both in the corridors and towards his crew on the jet are not conducive to obtaining and maintaining it. He had his chance and blew it, unlike MH who will stay.
Word is the replacement for M is PJ.
I believe no other 'deck chairs on the Titanic' will change on the 1st; other than maybe some sideways movement which could be interesting to watch?
(Gary) B-N Glitter
You should remember that timing is everything in aviation and just because some people missed the ABC (AF-BA-CX) boat, this does not make them lesser mortals.
GB
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PJ is replacing who? Only M I know being replaced is giving his seat to SS.
As I said before, SD has his own way of getting things done and this did not make him very popular, especially not under the "weaker colleagues".
But I stick to my question. Do we need managers who win the popularity contest or do we need managers who will get the job done?
Some might not like SD's personal style, but he did get the job done as far as I know.
Anyway, that's that I guess. Lets hope the new "team" will do better. A lot of dead bodies still locked away in the QR closets. I guess the coming expansion, IOSA audit, ETS's, worldwide crisis etc etc will seperate the men from the boys in management in the near future...
I am just a line pilot....Yiiieeeehhaaaa!
As I said before, SD has his own way of getting things done and this did not make him very popular, especially not under the "weaker colleagues".
But I stick to my question. Do we need managers who win the popularity contest or do we need managers who will get the job done?
Some might not like SD's personal style, but he did get the job done as far as I know.
Anyway, that's that I guess. Lets hope the new "team" will do better. A lot of dead bodies still locked away in the QR closets. I guess the coming expansion, IOSA audit, ETS's, worldwide crisis etc etc will seperate the men from the boys in management in the near future...
I am just a line pilot....Yiiieeeehhaaaa!
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IOSA shd be a piece of cake.. QA cleared it last time too.. plus now they have a good team of auditors - heard they are doing a good job.. Plus our own RP has also joined their ranks
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Glad to see you are confident about it. Not everybody in OPS shares your level of confidence however so let's wait and see how good our internal auditors realy are!
RP does a good job but he is focussing on the wrong things...(HINT)
RP does a good job but he is focussing on the wrong things...(HINT)
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I was going through the threads and came across two words "exit permit". The poster stated that one can not leave Qatar without an exit permit. Does this mean that every time a person needs to go out of Qatar on leave/vacation he/she need to apply for one? 
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The exit permit thing means that if you make any mistake, or it appears that you have made a mistake, first thing that will happen is your exit permit being cancelled. From there on, whoever is in charge will open an investigation (a lengthy one, usually) to determine wether you are in the wrong or in the right. In the meantime you are locked in QR regardless of your finance or personal situation.
This is the main reason for having most pilots not coming back from vacation. Not worth the risk resigning, geting your exit permit cancelled for all the notice period and geting locked just because your dog **** on someone else's backyard and the neighbour decided to open a police case on you.
This is the main reason for having most pilots not coming back from vacation. Not worth the risk resigning, geting your exit permit cancelled for all the notice period and geting locked just because your dog **** on someone else's backyard and the neighbour decided to open a police case on you.
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It seems to me that employees of QR are more of slaves rather than bonafide employees. 
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Forgive my ignorance but if things are this bad, people should just stop coming to QR for better employment opportunities
. Forgive my ignorance but if things are this bad, people should just stop coming to QR for better employment opportunities
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Hi all,
Things have improved a great deal in the last year at QR.
Money is great with a low overtime threshold.
Retirement fund.
Pay for deadheading. 50%
The best rosters I have ever had at any airline for the last 6 months.
F/O's upgrading at a very fast clip.
Increases in housing.
Increases in school fees.
Just my humble opinion.
BDD
Things have improved a great deal in the last year at QR.
Money is great with a low overtime threshold.
Retirement fund.
Pay for deadheading. 50%
The best rosters I have ever had at any airline for the last 6 months.
F/O's upgrading at a very fast clip.
Increases in housing.
Increases in school fees.
Just my humble opinion.
BDD
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BDD,
Thanks for your post. I just wanted to ask if it's okay to have my wife join me on flights a couple of times a month.
Azzurri
Thanks for your post. I just wanted to ask if it's okay to have my wife join me on flights a couple of times a month.
Azzurri
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Incremental improvements
For those considering QR, there have been incremental yet significant improvements to pay/living/working conditions over the last year. As with any airline, this is not a rose garden, but things are definitely greener.
From a personal perspective, QR is a reasonable place to work, living in Qatar can be a challenge, benefits are adequate. There are individual events which inspire much rhetoric on these bulletin boards but though they may be unfair, they are also infrequent. Possibly management here is learning and more importantly, maturing.
IF you are willing to take the risk of evolving your pilot career on the short track, this is likely the best place IF you can keep your head down, make a bit of noise occasionally, and stay focused on operations (at least for F/Os). That doesn't mean that fate and chance might randomly seek you out to the detriment of your career. It may also mean you could be a 30 year old B777 Captain and honestly, how many places in the world could THAT happen?
DECs have different objectives. This is a stable and reliable airline if you are willing to suffer the occasional "spanking". Simulator sessions are reasonable as are most of the line check pilots (there ARE exceptions). Rosters can be somewhat onerous on certain fleets compared to legacy European and North American carriers but if one does not enjoy the profession of flying this is likely the wrong place to work. Destinations are varied and interesting and with a few exceptions (again) layover facilities are adequate (though more and more moving toward the airport rather than downtown).
It is distressing to read the threads from Emirates pilots and I am not sure why such a prestigious airline is allowing their pilot workplace to deteriorate so seriously. Possibly only the voices of a few disgruntled individuals are being heard but personally, I am currently quite happy to be employed flying with QR.
From a personal perspective, QR is a reasonable place to work, living in Qatar can be a challenge, benefits are adequate. There are individual events which inspire much rhetoric on these bulletin boards but though they may be unfair, they are also infrequent. Possibly management here is learning and more importantly, maturing.
IF you are willing to take the risk of evolving your pilot career on the short track, this is likely the best place IF you can keep your head down, make a bit of noise occasionally, and stay focused on operations (at least for F/Os). That doesn't mean that fate and chance might randomly seek you out to the detriment of your career. It may also mean you could be a 30 year old B777 Captain and honestly, how many places in the world could THAT happen?
DECs have different objectives. This is a stable and reliable airline if you are willing to suffer the occasional "spanking". Simulator sessions are reasonable as are most of the line check pilots (there ARE exceptions). Rosters can be somewhat onerous on certain fleets compared to legacy European and North American carriers but if one does not enjoy the profession of flying this is likely the wrong place to work. Destinations are varied and interesting and with a few exceptions (again) layover facilities are adequate (though more and more moving toward the airport rather than downtown).
It is distressing to read the threads from Emirates pilots and I am not sure why such a prestigious airline is allowing their pilot workplace to deteriorate so seriously. Possibly only the voices of a few disgruntled individuals are being heard but personally, I am currently quite happy to be employed flying with QR.