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The Etihad Package...

Old 9th Jun 2008, 07:58
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No laa bro...it's still free but now you have to go in from the old car rental, now designated employees/staff entrance.
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Old 9th Jun 2008, 09:33
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Who sent the mail?

Was this e-mail regarding parking sent by Etihad or was it just forwarded on behalf the airport?

The Porta-cabin has been remarkably silent on who is actually going to to pay the AED400 per year.

Most other airlines either provide transport or provide (Covered), staff parking.

Are the busy bees at the new Academy going to pay for parking? I don't think so!

Lets hope they sort the matter out soon.
 
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Taxi

I was told that if we are not happy with the new parking arrangement then we should use Taxi. So stop bitching
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Old 9th Jun 2008, 11:22
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Told by who?

Puppet M,

Who told you this?
 
Old 9th Jun 2008, 11:36
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So cool

Getting better everyday.....

Let's give them what they deserve

Time to show then what kind of bad business practice we are able of, isn't it ?

Minimum fuel, refuel at outstation all the time, even for the smallest amount....
No customer minded attitude whatsoever.
Turbulence speed whenever needed, at any slight wave.....
Taxy at a man's wlaking speed.
No direct.
Use the runway creating the biggest flying time.
Proactive use of ACARS and Satcom whenever possible.
Max reversers thrust whenever possible
No cooperation with ground staff whatsoever
Headcount at everyflight...that's one of the most efficient.....
Tight dangerous goods cargo check in the bays.
And , of course, no cooperation at all with crew control, unless you have a good deal for you.
No flight on OFF days.
Take your 1 hour to join the airport, when you are called from STBY, then take all your time to walk to the aircraft, so as to avoid high blood perssure and stress before a flight...flight safety proactive attitude....

The list is endless, and it costs them so much, in terms of fuel, engine cycles....and image.....
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Old 9th Jun 2008, 11:47
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Sir Osis,
The parking supervisor when I told him what I thought about the New Parking Position.
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Old 9th Jun 2008, 21:21
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Do they try and pi$$ people off or does it come naturally I wonder?

Just a few calculations come to mind.....

We were promised a whopping 4% pay increment, now on my meager capt's salary that equated to about 1300 AED.

Lets see parking cost at airport 400 + 150 = 550 so roughly half my increment is going to park my car to go to work.

Oh I cannot wait for the next Pilot meeting. By the way when my card expires I hope the guys at OCC have plenty of stby's as getting a taxi at Khalifa B is like ...... getting a pay increase from Hogan (comes by but is gone by the time you see it)
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Old 10th Jun 2008, 04:31
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EPR do you really think the 700 AED will be never ending?....keep dreaming!

We will get nothing under Hogans rule..the sooner he goes the better for everyone.
The layer of incompetence he has put in place never ceases to amaze me..just about every dept is a shambles...get some real auditors in and see what they say!

The silence from the portakabin over the parking fees is incredible..either confirm or deny it!
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Old 10th Jun 2008, 10:59
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Parking

So the good news is that we won't have to pay for parking.

The bad news is that it is going to cost a lot more than AED400 for a new paint job once your car has been in the sun for a year and the birds have used it as a toilet and beak sharpener.
 
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And don't think the new announcement of 10 buddy tickets is great.

Take out the maids ticket and the dead parents tickets and you are still left with 4.
So really nothing has been given, and given that the maids tkt was, I think FOC, we lost in the deal. Although you can now send your maid home Diamond Zone !

Add to that the downgrading of the annual leave tkt and the staff not wanting to do anything to assist you with these travel plans...

It's better to stay at home or take a confirmed ID 100 on EK!
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Old 10th Jun 2008, 12:40
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A320 / A330 mixed Fleet Flying......

Looks like GCAA have said the big NO to that option....
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Old 10th Jun 2008, 13:06
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Maybe we have written this thousand times.......

Lies, lies and again lies

EY has promised mixed fleet to attract the A320 skippers with A330 dreams......

And now.....as George says: What else......

Well the answer is nothing....as usual there

To all our A320 colleagues.....I feel sorry guys .

You believed them and now nothing will happen, you are stuck there on the sand pit , just like the others
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 18:28
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Al Ghazal....

What has Georgio said now...... ?

Missed that email...?
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 20:00
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Corperate lies then?

Have been emailing in EY ........Much from the company on Mixed Fleet flying.....so are you sure no MFF? With respect, can you pls source this info or pls just post the link ?

This is one of the biggest pulls for me from a reasonable British carrier.......A330 etc... very quick time to command...nice villas and "it's not hard to fit in here!"
all the usual spiel. This is quite important for me, as I would also uproot my partner; so an honest sensible reply would be appreciated....otherwise as I am not desperate to leave - I'll stay put and beat off the hoodies at Sainbury's, while paying tax to Gordon Brown![Having said that ..at least I am home] Good luck to all. ST
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Old 12th Jun 2008, 22:12
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Speedtouch, stay where you are.

There is no guarantee about anything here. Even if you have it in writing, it is not worth the paper it is written on.

Which nice Villa's would you be referring to? The ones in Khalifa City "B"? There are none of those left. You will more likely be put up in a hotel or an apartment in Mussafah. That is a city which is basically a workers accomodation area. Not our kind of workers either, but ones where there are 10 to a tent. Trust me, the euphoria and hard on of flying a shiny new jet wears off pretty fast when, you can't pick any part of your roster, get screwed out of leave, get treated like crap from the top on down, paid less than the low cost down the road, (which by the way has been in business less time Etihad and managed to pay out a bonus 12 or 15 timers more than ours) have to share hotel rooms on layovers, have perks taken away with every "increase" in pay, etc. etc.....
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 09:58
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Grrr thinking time....

Much obliged Cayenne! I may just give myself a little more thinking time I am still interested in the source for NO MFF though. [For info- they spoke of "the most modern accomodation available - Khalifa C methinks?].........One question though, if it is really so bad then why do so many stay? yes it would uproot any family again, yes it a petty bad time in Europe/US but there must be something you would rather do [or on the flip side, keeping you all there] if it is so poor?
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 10:34
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why do we stay ?

well good question.

being senior most of us have a nice accomodation (not cie provided) so family is happy.
being senior here we know how it works... so we can play with the same rules

moneywise ... it's crap... nothing to add

roster, leave, well... we are used to it now, it does't hurt my back anymore
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 11:29
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Hear in the cockpits that mixed fleet A320/A330 is a NO.....

Lot of guys have the resignation word in the mouth, as well as the word liars..... Don't know why....

omething we are used to as well...the lies
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 16:28
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I wonder why GCAA would say no?? It seems easily practicable in many other airlines worldwide. I just cant see EY taking a simple no, and giving up on the idea. Its got too many financial and operational advantages for them.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 18:34
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ETD package 2004 to date

Anyone care to comment on the differences from then to date, Considering the inflation and Management changes EY has gone through in the past 4 years

This is from 4 years ago on another thread.


Starting base pay for a Captain 19,500 Dirhams F/O 13,000.

Daily rate. 750 DHS Capt. 450 F/O

Approx 20 days a month.

NO overtime.
You pay for utilities.
NO loss of License insurance.
NO company travel to or from work or allowance.
NO per diems.
NO nightstop pay.
One return economy class ticket to the country of residence per year for you and family.
Med covered 100% for you up to a max of 200,000 DHS.
Housing 85,000 for F/O's 90,000 for Capt's. if you sign a lease with them. If you want to take the cash only 72,000.
One months BASE salary for every year employed as a end of terms bonus.
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