Etihad upgrades are on A320
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When are you going to realize that our working conditions get worst because of us. We are our own enemies. WHY? Because we are accepting what is unacceptable. Those people who are willing to go so low and compromise their families they deserve it. MOST OF THEM HAVE A CHOICE. They know what is on offer. The MUSSAFA INDUSTRIAL 10 TOWER ETIHAD MODERN CAMP is the only available company provider accommodation. Every time a new Joiner signs in, our managers get together and have a good laugh. Maybe they are right to do so. I was lied and fooled by promises made by them but I had never nor will I ever compromise my working conditions, my lifestyle and my family if I know from before.
You say I am “immature and childish”. Well at least I have the decency to tell people the truth and give them the facts. Whether is about bad housing, bad rostering or DEC policy, it is all WRONG. If something is wrong then it’s wrong. It doesn’t matter what the excuse is. Most people prefer to listen now and understand later. Let it be then.
When are you going to realize that our working conditions get worst because of us. We are our own enemies. WHY? Because we are accepting what is unacceptable. Those people who are willing to go so low and compromise their families they deserve it. MOST OF THEM HAVE A CHOICE. They know what is on offer. The MUSSAFA INDUSTRIAL 10 TOWER ETIHAD MODERN CAMP is the only available company provider accommodation. Every time a new Joiner signs in, our managers get together and have a good laugh. Maybe they are right to do so. I was lied and fooled by promises made by them but I had never nor will I ever compromise my working conditions, my lifestyle and my family if I know from before.
You say I am “immature and childish”. Well at least I have the decency to tell people the truth and give them the facts. Whether is about bad housing, bad rostering or DEC policy, it is all WRONG. If something is wrong then it’s wrong. It doesn’t matter what the excuse is. Most people prefer to listen now and understand later. Let it be then.
I believe that just the idea of having to live in Mussafa will stop any applicant from accepting the job. If I were to be moved to Mussafa I would resign with NO notice.
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Cantilever I dissagree my friend, the best way is to get rid of little pratts like Relief who are a disgrace to this profession.
Luckily enough he doesn't represent the vast majority of our F/O's who are mature professionals and get on with the job without crying like little girls.
When we act in the manner that relief does how on earth do you expect management to take us seriously? They sit back and enjoy how we work hard to beat each other to death.
Luckily enough he doesn't represent the vast majority of our F/O's who are mature professionals and get on with the job without crying like little girls.
When we act in the manner that relief does how on earth do you expect management to take us seriously? They sit back and enjoy how we work hard to beat each other to death.
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It doesn't change how EY is behaving.....
We, pilots, are an average sample of population, with different characters, wills, aspirations, life goals, cultures....and so on and on....
So Management is.....
We, pilots, are an average sample of population, with different characters, wills, aspirations, life goals, cultures....and so on and on....
So Management is.....
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Not a good situation……Our recruitment department did after all attract these applicants by telling them that they could expect a wide body command within 2 to 3 years, but having said that, I do agree that a command on a A320 is a good start.
I think the best way to change the way some look at the A320 fleet is to make it more attractive…….a sector allowance would be a good start, (maybe the boys in the office should have a look at Easy / Air Arabia’s website for information on how to implement a sector allowance) this would make the A320 more attractive! And don’t forget about the cabin crew, they stand to lose quite a bit of the readies as well.
I think the best way to change the way some look at the A320 fleet is to make it more attractive…….a sector allowance would be a good start, (maybe the boys in the office should have a look at Easy / Air Arabia’s website for information on how to implement a sector allowance) this would make the A320 more attractive! And don’t forget about the cabin crew, they stand to lose quite a bit of the readies as well.
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Don’t make fool of yourself. Your “big red fonts” won’t prevent me from posting the FACTS. You are wasting a lot of energy writing meaningless posts. Our future colleagues don’t care if my balls are big or small. And certainly don’t care if my command would be on the big or the small Bus. What they are interested to know among others is how their new company provided accommodation will look like, where is located and most important what kind of lifestyle they will enjoy. They are interested to know of our managers style and if policies are consistent. They are interested to know the percentage of DECs Vs UPGRADES.
It is always a combination of all of the above plus some other things (roster, pension fund, etc) that make an Airline good or bad. It is never one thing alone. The only thing you seem to mention in most of your posts in this forum is money.
Nevertheless, your input is very valuable. So please let us know of your thoughts about the new Company provided accommodation.
Now about balls again. Bellow is what I said earlier in this thread. It is always nice to read before you post.
You see I don’t like to discuss this kind of issues on the internet. In fact I think it is wrong and I never thought that I would be doing that before I join EY. But I have no choice when I see posts like yours and when our bosses don’t want to listen or don’t care. Then discussing it here is our only hope. And to be fair I don’t know who is behind this new policy but I am sure all of them visit PPrune.
It was not just me who went to see the “Bosses” in the office. And I have already posted the outcome:
Our future depends on how many applications from DECs they have at any given time. It looks like they are unable to attract more DECs for the time being so they have decided to keep their options open. No wonder why they do not want to have a clear policy on this.
It is always a combination of all of the above plus some other things (roster, pension fund, etc) that make an Airline good or bad. It is never one thing alone. The only thing you seem to mention in most of your posts in this forum is money.
Nevertheless, your input is very valuable. So please let us know of your thoughts about the new Company provided accommodation.
Now about balls again. Bellow is what I said earlier in this thread. It is always nice to read before you post.
You see I don’t like to discuss this kind of issues on the internet. In fact I think it is wrong and I never thought that I would be doing that before I join EY. But I have no choice when I see posts like yours and when our bosses don’t want to listen or don’t care. Then discussing it here is our only hope. And to be fair I don’t know who is behind this new policy but I am sure all of them visit PPrune.
It was not just me who went to see the “Bosses” in the office. And I have already posted the outcome:
Our future depends on how many applications from DECs they have at any given time. It looks like they are unable to attract more DECs for the time being so they have decided to keep their options open. No wonder why they do not want to have a clear policy on this.
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Can you then please explain this comment you made, because either I don't understand your english or you have a selective memory.
Each and every post you make expresses your discomfort with us DEC's. I suggest you pack your diapers and find an airline that does not employ DEC's to solve your problem.
I enjoy watching all the new DECs who complain and cry like babies after they realize what they have done to their self’s and their family by coming here
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Hi guys
i would be very pleased if someone knows about etihad requirements for F/O.Do they require the full atpl???I am still with the frozen atpl but I am going to unfreeze it in the next few months...How is life on the small bus there???Please do not tell me that everything is a huge mess like in the other threads.
All the best
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i would be very pleased if someone knows about etihad requirements for F/O.Do they require the full atpl???I am still with the frozen atpl but I am going to unfreeze it in the next few months...How is life on the small bus there???Please do not tell me that everything is a huge mess like in the other threads.
All the best
Doc
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Relief,
This is getting real tiring and frankly I don’t want to continue arguing with the likes of you.
It’s a pretty simple matter here my boy, you cannot build from the ground up in a matter of four years an international airline with over 40 aircraft without DEC’s. If you can understand that fine, if not then I fear you should return to your toys and let the grown ups do the talking.
This July they will announce an aircraft order of around 100 aircraft, how exactly do you think they can crew these aircraft? Even if we upgrade all f/o’s (including you God forbid) they still aren’t enough.
The fact of the matter is that in every airline there is a small bunch of spoilt little brats that whine and bitch about everything. You are a shinning example of just that. Even if you get your upgrade on the A340 you’ll still find something to bitch and whine about because you’re a miserable little sod.
To make your despicable little life seem just a bit better you find comfort in seeing your colleagues who you envy because they are better qualified than you suffer because of the company housing. How pathetic that makes you look.
If you are implying that you are such professional then yes for once we agree, EY doesn’t need the likes of you so I’m really glad you’ve packed your diapers. If only your next outfit knew what gem they’re getting.
In the meantime be a good boy and try not to throw all your toys from the pram.
This is getting real tiring and frankly I don’t want to continue arguing with the likes of you.
It’s a pretty simple matter here my boy, you cannot build from the ground up in a matter of four years an international airline with over 40 aircraft without DEC’s. If you can understand that fine, if not then I fear you should return to your toys and let the grown ups do the talking.
This July they will announce an aircraft order of around 100 aircraft, how exactly do you think they can crew these aircraft? Even if we upgrade all f/o’s (including you God forbid) they still aren’t enough.
The fact of the matter is that in every airline there is a small bunch of spoilt little brats that whine and bitch about everything. You are a shinning example of just that. Even if you get your upgrade on the A340 you’ll still find something to bitch and whine about because you’re a miserable little sod.
To make your despicable little life seem just a bit better you find comfort in seeing your colleagues who you envy because they are better qualified than you suffer because of the company housing. How pathetic that makes you look.
Now I have some good news for you. I have packed my diapers just in case. It might be sooner than later before I move on. EY don’t need professional and loyal employs
In the meantime be a good boy and try not to throw all your toys from the pram.
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EY346Driver You are so predictable. I was using you to demonstrate the chosen path of our management. Among some very good people we have some very desperate who rush like idiots to claim they know everything but have no clue about aviation and of what they say. Very arrogant people who demand respect and have no decency. You are perfectly reflecting our management. In fact you deserve to be here. Thanks for the excellent show.
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Dear Relief and EY346...
Can you stop !
We are here to talk about A320 Upgrade... is already ON .
Mr EY346driver for sure you are very happy geting nice salary with maybe 6 sectors and 50 hrs on the bunk,well your colleague on 320 get 20% less doing 20 sectors in 15 days. What do you think...
Most of the only 340 rated are DEC and the get more money than a senior
330/340 Cap. And noway to compare with the guys who will do 320 Upg.
It is not your fault but come on Senority is crap.
Mr Relief I think toy r us is open tomorrow...
Guys do not make war,Make LOVE !
Can you stop !
We are here to talk about A320 Upgrade... is already ON .
Mr EY346driver for sure you are very happy geting nice salary with maybe 6 sectors and 50 hrs on the bunk,well your colleague on 320 get 20% less doing 20 sectors in 15 days. What do you think...
Most of the only 340 rated are DEC and the get more money than a senior
330/340 Cap. And noway to compare with the guys who will do 320 Upg.
It is not your fault but come on Senority is crap.
Mr Relief I think toy r us is open tomorrow...
Guys do not make war,Make LOVE !
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Yes it is...
I just spoke few days ago with one of the Top top guys, they have a lot of guys to come.
Now they are going to USA and later south America,Emirates went there and they got a quite a few guys.
The more pilots , the less increase. JH please go back to Kanguruland !!!! and take all your pets also.
Keep in trim !!!!
Now they are going to USA and later south America,Emirates went there and they got a quite a few guys.
The more pilots , the less increase. JH please go back to Kanguruland !!!! and take all your pets also.
Keep in trim !!!!
