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Old 2nd Jan 2008, 12:26
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Ok you are half Lebanese . In Europe you have som kinda law but in QR no souch thing like CEO terminate cabin crew for no reason and she has a loan which bank wanther to settle in one time if she wants a letter for imigration clereance and she cant pay in one time guess what happen? After 8 days she become iligal and she is send to jail . Its sad true CEO is idiot !
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Old 2nd Jan 2008, 14:23
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Hi SNAM!
Thanks for all your infos!
Still wondering why you hide your airline you are working for...
Would like to make my own picture!
Some friends of mine working for Easyjet and Ryanair and telling me different stories.
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Old 2nd Jan 2008, 15:19
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If its true what you are talking SNAM QR would be flooded with unhappy cabin crew from EU and true is that we have 88 % Asian crew from poor places .
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Old 2nd Jan 2008, 16:33
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Still wondering why you hide your airline you are working for...
Would like to make my own picture!
Some friends of mine working for Easyjet and Ryanair and telling me different stories.


Dont think he is hiding his airline with that description, i recognise the descrption only to well! And it isnt Easyjet.

Going back to the thread, if QR is so bad are there not ample opportunites in Emirates and Etihad? or is there a policy of not recruiting from each other?
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 07:24
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Snam, don't fall into the trap of comparing the FR with QR. The bottom line is, in the West you still have the chance to defend your rights and a bit of luck even be the winner. Over here, I say it again, you're less than Zero when it comes to anything regarding your rights. It's OK to be bulled by the a$$es in the commercial management, it's a common thing all over the world. QR's flight ops specialty is patronizing their crews in a very close cooperation with the dick heads from rostering. You will be amazed of the scope childish behavior prevails over here. Anyhow suite yourself.
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 07:37
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Hey SNAM, so maybe your boss is an ass. But now you have really got me wondering; which is the worst airline to work for? Is it the Desert Goat or the Euro Goat?

But why not broaden the survey whilst we chat?? Maybe there is a far away prison camp that can beat the two goats for Worlds Worst Run Airline title.

I say The Desert Goat is right down there close to the very bottom. Cannot think of anything good to say. Sorry.... 1st class catering is very nice. Three cheers for the cook.
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 20:56
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Sorry, but the great problem in Doha or actually in the Gulf are the "expatriate". All time fighting with other "expatriate". This is .
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Old 20th Jan 2008, 14:52
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to LOC22550

Mr LOC22550 if you don't like the place just get lost and find some where elese to feed your family.i'm wondring where do u use to live and i think if the place you came from is better you wouldn't leave it
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Old 20th Jan 2008, 15:44
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take it easy toyboy... no matter what the conditions are, people will complain this is the nature of human being. beside that locc has few valid points. try to cop with bit of criticism.

safe flying
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 06:03
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Snam: This has nothing to do with following rules or not... This has to do with the kind of mentality and kids we have amongst the cabin crew.
Before you report somebody we can talk each other(like adult...) and try to solve the problem instead of just reporting him or her without telling anything....(this happens in primary school)...this just shows the level of hypocrisy and honesty we have here...
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 06:16
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Just the facts about money etc..

Base is Ok taking into account dollar plunge isnt an issue for latin americans.

Housing, you will be offered a 3 bedroom apartment in a decent compound (decent NOT great), if you try to get your own place money is not enough.

Transportation, if you leave in that compound they offer you and have kids you definetly need 2 cars so is not enough to pay the monthly payment of 2 average cars (dont do the classic mistake and go for the Land Rovers, BMW etc.).

School is enough for an average school, that is if you can find one, I think school is a really tough subject in the Gulf (not only Doha).Couple of guys left QR because they could not get a school for their kids, or go find a ****ty one.

Exotic destinations mmmmmmm, not on 320 dont think India is as you see it on Travel Channel.

Well just a little info, my advice there is a more mature carrier very close from Doha, because if you think a lot of 320 time will put you closer to a left seat that is absolutely false. Command time is easy 5 years nowadays.

Ok remember as they say in your country, "prometer hasta meter, una vez metido al chin...... lo prometido"

Ups i almost forgot you will NEVER fly 80 hrs on 320 maybe 60 if lucky.
CS reports and all that 100% truth wath you have read here
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 10:23
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Been here 8 years now. Never had even 30 seconds of hassle with the cabin crew. Treat them well, they'll look after you, same as everywhere. They do a tremendous job given how difficult the CEO makes it for them.

Moving to the Gulf is a big decision especially if your bringing your wife and kids. Dont underestimate it, its not for everyone. Some wives have come and loved it, others hated it. If it was me I'd come for a week or two with my wife, meet with some families in a similar circumstance and ask them all the questions you need answers to.

Good luck.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 14:45
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Good news today. Mr Salia known as a Snake is in trouble and his post will be taken by PO Elias. I think CEO had enaf of licking and naw he need job to be done.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 18:57
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Hi guys,
What kind of accommodation Qatar provide to captains? Also a 3 bedroom apartment?
Thanks in advance
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 09:08
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Does anyone have any specific info on what is involved in the screening process for B777 Captain's position?

They say two days, one for interview, and one for Sim.

Also does anyone know the basics of the contract being offered?
Any commuting, available or not?
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 09:44
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I'm a bystander within this thread but I'll be coming to Qatar within the next couple of weeks to fly a desk... my flying days are now over!

Having spent thirty-odd years flying large aeroplanes I can tell you that the good old days of flying are over. My previous airline was much the same as any other... crew control are given the rules to roster you by and they simply apply those rules; if they don't, they get some grief too! The 'bean-counters' are truly the fly in the ointment because it's they who determine the number of crew to efficiently fly your route network. As a general rule, cabin crew aren't the best paid people in any given airline, but they too have a need to make advancements and that they too do their very best to work within the given guidelines/rules. Given that the Cabin Crew work on the 'front line' and are face to face with your customers you'd think that they'd have a salary to match the quality of service that they're required to give; but probably not!

The rules are set in place by the QCAA (Flight Time Limitations) and I can tell you that they are identical to the UKCAA, so you'd think that there would be no difference in rostering to that of any other UK airline? The bottom line here is, I guess, is that you've agreed to those rules, and if the rules so dictate that you work for a maximum of 900 flying hours per annum... that's exactly what the airline wants from you; that's the commercial sense of the airline and it's called profitability! Therefore, if your airline is experiencing growth, you can expect to get close to those limitations. It's interseting to note though, that those 900 hours are 'flying hours' and not 'duty hours', which can, and will, make a whole lot of difference to your working week/month/year.

In conclusion, no matter whether you fly for QA or any other UK based airline, the rules are the same; therefore, it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to work in the sunshine or the rain! There are of course quite different cultures within each region which may or may not be your preference; but it's all about choice... your choice. My choice is to escape a crime riddled UK where it's not safe to even make eye contact with a hooded youth, because at best, you'll get some abuse, or at the other end of the scale, get a knife in your ribs! From a governmental point of view, if you stay in the UK you'll be taxed (robbed) to the extreme. As I've said previously, it's all about choice... as far as I'm concerned it's a 'no brainer'; I'm getting out of here!
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 15:53
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A320 ops

Hello everybody,
can anyone give me some general info on A320 fleet ops? You know, roster, destinations, life style, flying hours, career prospects...the usual.
Looking forward to discover myself the real truth!

Many thanks

Bufe
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 15:56
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Outhouse,


you must be joking right? So your judgement of a professional pilot stands or falls with the smoothness of a landing?

Has it ever occured to you that a smooth landing is a far cry from a safe landing in many cases? That it probably was a rather deep landing eating up runway length

That a soft landing in a modern airbus in many cases is just a question of leaving the autothrust on long enough to hear several retard call outs...


To the guy flying desks....

I dont know which position you will assume here but I wish you all the best...we need people with real experience. As long as you dont forget where you came from....being the flightdeck!
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 17:26
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you are entitled for a villa Fly4Fun or housing allowance. Make sure you get the villa. Several senior guys are struggling with accommodation issue since the rule has been changed all over again and they are forced to move out by the land lords. It's all for the new joiners now not for the senior once. The more senior you get in QR the more you'll get screwed. New joiners will replace the old blokes, I guess. The moment any airline opens overseas bases some villas will get empty.
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 18:29
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Thanks 9.G
Just one more question, does QR gives any utilities and furnishing allowance if you get company accommodation?

Safe landings
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