EK,QR and EY Pay for 2007
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Sonoma is sort of right....
....850,000 per annum is a bit of wind-up, but not in the way he intended.
My gross last year at EK was 1,005,700 AED which includes ERP, the company provident fund contribution and housing allowance but not any of the school fees I was given or medical reimbursements.
It's a fairly simple calculation, just go on HR Direct Self Service and select "yearly view" on the payslip page and tot it up. September's pay alone was 86,700.
Seems to me that if you just shut up, do your job and put in a few years the benefits accrue. But I'm old-fashioned. Please continue the whining, it is fascinating.
My gross last year at EK was 1,005,700 AED which includes ERP, the company provident fund contribution and housing allowance but not any of the school fees I was given or medical reimbursements.
It's a fairly simple calculation, just go on HR Direct Self Service and select "yearly view" on the payslip page and tot it up. September's pay alone was 86,700.
Seems to me that if you just shut up, do your job and put in a few years the benefits accrue. But I'm old-fashioned. Please continue the whining, it is fascinating.
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EK is still a better deal in one-to-one comparison and at the same standing. There are other issues that we throw on the pot, but we'll be drifting into so many other variables such as promotions (commands, trainers, etc.) and here one has to evaluate the queue, the expected number of years, etc..
Basically, look at the money you would make at home in similar circumstances, add the social security contribution (yours and the Company's) and this should be the minimum you should be earning in the Gulf. Ensure you have that Social Security money in your hands and save it the way you see fit. That's what you don't see in Europe, States and elsewhere when you pay it to a government.
EK provides accommodation and isn't that bad, schooling allowance is pretty good and covers quite a good deal. Cars, fuel, food and other mainstream stuff are cheaper (not by far, but still cheaper) here in the Gulf.
Things are different when Companies give the accommodation money, poor education allowances and a poor health insurance. You are always exposed unless you buy your own property, insurance here or abroad with full coverage or you leave the family back home in school. Otherwise, you'll have to step forward and pay the difference, and that's a lot of money.
Basically, look at the money you would make at home in similar circumstances, add the social security contribution (yours and the Company's) and this should be the minimum you should be earning in the Gulf. Ensure you have that Social Security money in your hands and save it the way you see fit. That's what you don't see in Europe, States and elsewhere when you pay it to a government.
EK provides accommodation and isn't that bad, schooling allowance is pretty good and covers quite a good deal. Cars, fuel, food and other mainstream stuff are cheaper (not by far, but still cheaper) here in the Gulf.
Things are different when Companies give the accommodation money, poor education allowances and a poor health insurance. You are always exposed unless you buy your own property, insurance here or abroad with full coverage or you leave the family back home in school. Otherwise, you'll have to step forward and pay the difference, and that's a lot of money.
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With the cost of living getting more and more expensive(Qatar is probably the worse), a good question should have been : how much do you managed to SAVE every year (instead of how much we get)..expecially when you donīt have any benefit or pension plan included in your contract.
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yearly pay view - EK
To the guys that brought up the yearly pay view - thanks - that is all I was trying to portray -
I didn't make those numbers up and my 850k didn't include the Prov fund, kids education or the incidentals.
If you really want to see some crappy posts it seems like EY boys are more unhappy than us.
And for the guys that are struggling - I agree the Company could do more, but some of the things that you may be annoyed about with might be more DXB related not within EK control (maybe). And not all can be fixed with money.
All I think that guys looking at EK were asking was an honest appraisal of the conditions - if enough of us put in our circumstances they will see how they may apply to them I guess.
Maybe I have just been lucky to make hay while the sun shines...
I didn't make those numbers up and my 850k didn't include the Prov fund, kids education or the incidentals.
If you really want to see some crappy posts it seems like EY boys are more unhappy than us.
And for the guys that are struggling - I agree the Company could do more, but some of the things that you may be annoyed about with might be more DXB related not within EK control (maybe). And not all can be fixed with money.
All I think that guys looking at EK were asking was an honest appraisal of the conditions - if enough of us put in our circumstances they will see how they may apply to them I guess.
Maybe I have just been lucky to make hay while the sun shines...
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Hi,
that 456 000 Dhs is made up of the following:
Basic Salary 368 140
Concessional Travel: 2945
Exchange Rate Protection: 26 705
Flying Pay: 15 773
Productivity Pay: 8510
Profit Share 30 016
Refurbishment Allowance: 2000
Telephone Allowance: 1470
Total is actually 455 559.
Hope this is of some help.
Rgds.
that 456 000 Dhs is made up of the following:
Basic Salary 368 140
Concessional Travel: 2945
Exchange Rate Protection: 26 705
Flying Pay: 15 773
Productivity Pay: 8510
Profit Share 30 016
Refurbishment Allowance: 2000
Telephone Allowance: 1470
Total is actually 455 559.
Hope this is of some help.
Rgds.
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sunchaser--How many DEC's does UPS or FEX take each year? How long to make up for the $33k first year pay at UPS?
How long to MD10 CA at FEX?
Capt. at UPS or FEX is a great gig if you were smart enough to start there in 1992...
Apples to grapefruit comparison. TC
How long to MD10 CA at FEX?
Capt. at UPS or FEX is a great gig if you were smart enough to start there in 1992...
Apples to grapefruit comparison. TC
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They most definitely do not take street captains (DEC) in the US. The only places that do are the so-called 'regional' airlines and even then only in a couple of cases.
The example given of earning $350,000 or so is not the norm in the US. Those would be the captains of large airplanes who have been with their carriers for 25 years or so and today the only ones who can reasonably expect that kind of income would be UPS and FedEx. None of the legacy carriers have pay scales that even come close to that without working a ton of overtime.
I would guess that 1%-2% of all US Airline pilots earn that kind of coin. The rest of us get to hear then complain about the high cost of real estate in Aspen and how those Ferrari payments are killing them.
The example given of earning $350,000 or so is not the norm in the US. Those would be the captains of large airplanes who have been with their carriers for 25 years or so and today the only ones who can reasonably expect that kind of income would be UPS and FedEx. None of the legacy carriers have pay scales that even come close to that without working a ton of overtime.
I would guess that 1%-2% of all US Airline pilots earn that kind of coin. The rest of us get to hear then complain about the high cost of real estate in Aspen and how those Ferrari payments are killing them.
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1/2 truths guys. We have FO's making 200K 3rd year. If we worked under the rules in the sandbox we would pull in 500K, what can i tell you. Look at the contract, when we hit overtime it is huge. You want to talk about A funds and B funds? Just my point and i prefer to live in my home country. 25 years to make Capt. you say? Not true look at the boards with junior Capt. for each US major. Hey if you want to fly big shiny new jets in the sand pit all the more power to you. I'm in it for the money and time off. Something you guys don't even come close too. That is a fact.
