Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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Your 10k a month is not quite accurate.
1st. Cost of living in doha is extremely expensive beyond the costs if you wish to compare EU for instance and Qatar is not a great place to live, the quality of life is pretty low, very expensive a place taylor made for the locals that have a lot of money but not for normal working people
2nd. For you to make 10k take home, most likely you will fly 777 with rosters based on 90 to 110 hrs per month, It is pretty exhausting giving the jet lag and short layovers plus minimum rest at home, you'll barely see your family
3rd. Savings capability, consider you have a family with 2 children, yes they pay for schooling however just tuition, schools are ridiculously expensive in Doha, and quality is not the best, any additional costs you will pay for them. (There has not been any conscious salary increase for the past 4 years that can cope up with the cost of living in Qatar)
4th. Lack of opportunity for your wife. The Mrs most likely will stay at home and becomes a real problem after a while. They get really bored and to get a job is quite difficult there is no protection against sexual harassment and other issues, there has been lots of cases about that
When you refer to the 10k a month you need to see the whole picture
1st. Cost of living in doha is extremely expensive beyond the costs if you wish to compare EU for instance and Qatar is not a great place to live, the quality of life is pretty low, very expensive a place taylor made for the locals that have a lot of money but not for normal working people
2nd. For you to make 10k take home, most likely you will fly 777 with rosters based on 90 to 110 hrs per month, It is pretty exhausting giving the jet lag and short layovers plus minimum rest at home, you'll barely see your family
3rd. Savings capability, consider you have a family with 2 children, yes they pay for schooling however just tuition, schools are ridiculously expensive in Doha, and quality is not the best, any additional costs you will pay for them. (There has not been any conscious salary increase for the past 4 years that can cope up with the cost of living in Qatar)
4th. Lack of opportunity for your wife. The Mrs most likely will stay at home and becomes a real problem after a while. They get really bored and to get a job is quite difficult there is no protection against sexual harassment and other issues, there has been lots of cases about that
When you refer to the 10k a month you need to see the whole picture
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For A320 FOs...any ideia of how the rosters look like? As it seems like in the website, as an a320 FO Im selectable for both A320 or 330/340. Any chance to be selected for the wide ones? What about upgrades on those fleets right now?
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Rosters on 320 seems to be quite good and their time to command is the shortest among the fleets. Reg. fleet change to wb, it's all down to what's needed at the moment. Hard to tell.
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Is there any chance to stay on 320 fleet or pilots are forced to go to wide body? Thank you!
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I would like to provide an alternative view of Qatar to colofly72
First a disclaimer - I am not a pilot & don't work for QA so cannot comment on them as an employer. However I first came to Qatar in '91 and since then have spent over ten years living in Doha split over three separate contracts.
Quality of life is generally good and its one of the safest places my wife and I have lived. Prices are different compared with the rest of the world - some things like petrol & prime steak are inexpensive but others like accommodation are high. There are world class sports facilities and good international schools along with a superb museum but since its a small country you will need to travel regularly if you get bored easily.
Finally if they want, there is plenty for ladies to do. Maids are very affordable so they are free to work (until recently my company employed a Serbian, an Indian & a Jordanian ladies as engineers in our small division) or to join with one of the ladies social groups. Some women drive (like my better half) but for those that find the traffic an issue Uber & similar services its easy to get around without the need to drive.
First a disclaimer - I am not a pilot & don't work for QA so cannot comment on them as an employer. However I first came to Qatar in '91 and since then have spent over ten years living in Doha split over three separate contracts.
Quality of life is generally good and its one of the safest places my wife and I have lived. Prices are different compared with the rest of the world - some things like petrol & prime steak are inexpensive but others like accommodation are high. There are world class sports facilities and good international schools along with a superb museum but since its a small country you will need to travel regularly if you get bored easily.
Finally if they want, there is plenty for ladies to do. Maids are very affordable so they are free to work (until recently my company employed a Serbian, an Indian & a Jordanian ladies as engineers in our small division) or to join with one of the ladies social groups. Some women drive (like my better half) but for those that find the traffic an issue Uber & similar services its easy to get around without the need to drive.
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What is the time to go command for A320 guys in that case? Is it directly after three years within QR if you meet the hours?
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Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but what is the deal with accommodation in Doha when joining Qatar?
I understand that when you join you are automatically placed in company accommodation (thus not getting the housing allowance) and you have to apply to leave so you can find your own place. This can take many months depending on circumstances.
Can anyone confirm this, or add any more information?
Thanks in advance,
FBW
I understand that when you join you are automatically placed in company accommodation (thus not getting the housing allowance) and you have to apply to leave so you can find your own place. This can take many months depending on circumstances.
Can anyone confirm this, or add any more information?
Thanks in advance,
FBW
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Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but what is the deal with accommodation in Doha when joining Qatar?
I understand that when you join you are automatically placed in company accommodation (thus not getting the housing allowance) and you have to apply to leave so you can find your own place. This can take many months depending on circumstances.
Can anyone confirm this, or add any more information?
Thanks in advance,
FBW
I understand that when you join you are automatically placed in company accommodation (thus not getting the housing allowance) and you have to apply to leave so you can find your own place. This can take many months depending on circumstances.
Can anyone confirm this, or add any more information?
Thanks in advance,
FBW
unfrotuantely you can only be listed in 1 list so you need to choose which one.
Rumors the only way to leave the company acc. And get your housing allowance is to buy an apartment and show the proofs but again I am not 100% sure.
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What are the chances to get on the 777 when applying with 1.000 hrs on the B737NG as a first officer? (Are applicants with lower hrs always planned for the 787 or do I have a chance to get the 777 rating?)
And do low hours in the logbook mean, that I have to wait longer in the holding pool?
And do low hours in the logbook mean, that I have to wait longer in the holding pool?
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Nothing is 100% but in general they have wanted 2500 hours for 777 so most likely go to 787.
I honestly don’t know why they treat the 787 as the beginner plane as it is even more complex than the 777- think it has to do with type of flying as 777 does more long haul and the 787 has more medium sectors.
there are lots of factors, including notice period required, etc....but it does seem that more experienced or those who already have experience on type are called first.
I honestly don’t know why they treat the 787 as the beginner plane as it is even more complex than the 777- think it has to do with type of flying as 777 does more long haul and the 787 has more medium sectors.
there are lots of factors, including notice period required, etc....but it does seem that more experienced or those who already have experience on type are called first.
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Someone from QR can till me what the situation on the 320 looks like? Short of pilots or a lot of people swimming in the pool at the moment?
Rosters ok? Considering leaving my gig in Europe for some ME action...
cheers
Rosters ok? Considering leaving my gig in Europe for some ME action...
cheers
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For all of you waiting for an opening at QR, be aware of the impact of EASA FTLs that were adopted on 1/1. I have for many years praised the developmemt of QR over the past seven years, but the lifestyle impact of the new FTLs are disastrous.
There is no minimum days off requirement anymore. The only requirement is 2 consecutive days off, twice a month. The rest of the month, the only requirememt is 36 hours off every 7 days. For example, if you have requested the first 4 days of the month off, that now fulfills the requirememt for 2 consecutive days off twice a month. The rest of that month you will work 6 on 1 off. Guaranteed.
If you have family in Doha, you will not see them. If you are single, all regular errands need to be done on that single day off (unless it’s the weekend, when nothing is open). You will not have a social life because all your friends are working a similar roster, and you will be too exhausted to do anything but try to recover on your single day off.
You will have patterns involving a 2-3-day trip, followed by minimum rest in Doha (that’s 12 hours to catch up with your wife and kids) do another 2-3-day trip, followed by the single day off. Repeat. Landing at 5AM and reporting again at midnight? EASA says you’re good to go. Happy wife, happy life?
Be aware, the EASA FTLs are a target for rostering and a lifestyle disaster for the crew. A real shame, as the company had developed into a very good employer.
There is no minimum days off requirement anymore. The only requirement is 2 consecutive days off, twice a month. The rest of the month, the only requirememt is 36 hours off every 7 days. For example, if you have requested the first 4 days of the month off, that now fulfills the requirememt for 2 consecutive days off twice a month. The rest of that month you will work 6 on 1 off. Guaranteed.
If you have family in Doha, you will not see them. If you are single, all regular errands need to be done on that single day off (unless it’s the weekend, when nothing is open). You will not have a social life because all your friends are working a similar roster, and you will be too exhausted to do anything but try to recover on your single day off.
You will have patterns involving a 2-3-day trip, followed by minimum rest in Doha (that’s 12 hours to catch up with your wife and kids) do another 2-3-day trip, followed by the single day off. Repeat. Landing at 5AM and reporting again at midnight? EASA says you’re good to go. Happy wife, happy life?
Be aware, the EASA FTLs are a target for rostering and a lifestyle disaster for the crew. A real shame, as the company had developed into a very good employer.
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For all of you waiting for an opening at QR, be aware of the impact of EASA FTLs that were adopted on 1/1. I have for many years praised the developmemt of QR over the past seven years, but the lifestyle impact of the new FTLs are disastrous.
There is no minimum days off requirement anymore. The only requirement is 2 consecutive days off, twice a month. The rest of the month, the only requirememt is 36 hours off every 7 days. For example, if you have requested the first 4 days of the month off, that now fulfills the requirememt for 2 consecutive days off twice a month. The rest of that month you will work 6 on 1 off. Guaranteed.
If you have family in Doha, you will not see them. If you are single, all regular errands need to be done on that single day off (unless it’s the weekend, when nothing is open). You will not have a social life because all your friends are working a similar roster, and you will be too exhausted to do anything but try to recover on your single day off.
You will have patterns involving a 2-3-day trip, followed by minimum rest in Doha (that’s 12 hours to catch up with your wife and kids) do another 2-3-day trip, followed by the single day off. Repeat. Landing at 5AM and reporting again at midnight? EASA says you’re good to go. Happy wife, happy life?
Be aware, the EASA FTLs are a target for rostering and a lifestyle disaster for the crew. A real shame, as the company had developed into a very good employer.
There is no minimum days off requirement anymore. The only requirement is 2 consecutive days off, twice a month. The rest of the month, the only requirememt is 36 hours off every 7 days. For example, if you have requested the first 4 days of the month off, that now fulfills the requirememt for 2 consecutive days off twice a month. The rest of that month you will work 6 on 1 off. Guaranteed.
If you have family in Doha, you will not see them. If you are single, all regular errands need to be done on that single day off (unless it’s the weekend, when nothing is open). You will not have a social life because all your friends are working a similar roster, and you will be too exhausted to do anything but try to recover on your single day off.
You will have patterns involving a 2-3-day trip, followed by minimum rest in Doha (that’s 12 hours to catch up with your wife and kids) do another 2-3-day trip, followed by the single day off. Repeat. Landing at 5AM and reporting again at midnight? EASA says you’re good to go. Happy wife, happy life?
Be aware, the EASA FTLs are a target for rostering and a lifestyle disaster for the crew. A real shame, as the company had developed into a very good employer.
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Hello Guys,
I hope all is doing well... besides the busy scheds of course.
Can anyone share informations, how much does a widebody Capt. earns on a lean month and a busy month. Lean month, if there is any.
And for the kids education, up to what age do they provide? Do pilots get a Retirement benefit upon reaching Mandatory retirement age?
Thank you in Advance, You can also PM if you want to. Safe flight Guys !
DC
I hope all is doing well... besides the busy scheds of course.
Can anyone share informations, how much does a widebody Capt. earns on a lean month and a busy month. Lean month, if there is any.
And for the kids education, up to what age do they provide? Do pilots get a Retirement benefit upon reaching Mandatory retirement age?
Thank you in Advance, You can also PM if you want to. Safe flight Guys !
DC
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Hello Guys,
I hope all is doing well... besides the busy scheds of course.
Can anyone share informations, how much does a widebody Capt. earns on a lean month and a busy month. Lean month, if there is any.
And for the kids education, up to what age do they provide? Do pilots get a Retirement benefit upon reaching Mandatory retirement age?
Thank you in Advance, You can also PM if you want to. Safe flight Guys !
DC
I hope all is doing well... besides the busy scheds of course.
Can anyone share informations, how much does a widebody Capt. earns on a lean month and a busy month. Lean month, if there is any.
And for the kids education, up to what age do they provide? Do pilots get a Retirement benefit upon reaching Mandatory retirement age?
Thank you in Advance, You can also PM if you want to. Safe flight Guys !
DC
i can’t say about salary sorry about that I am not a captain .
fot education they pay phill age of 21 up to 4 kids
for retirement the only payout you get is end of service or ISP if you elect to join the plan