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Old 18th Feb 2020, 09:50
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Ireland
Posts: 9
Video interview

Hi everyone,

just got the invitation to the video interview! Iíve seen it is now automated and not by Skype is this new?
any heads up on the questions?

Thanks
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 01:38
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Join Date: May 2015
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Originally Posted by deantmurphy View Post
Hi everyone,

just got the invitation to the video interview! Iíve seen it is now automated and not by Skype is this new?
any heads up on the questions?

Thanks

Hello! Ive done that some days ago, really easy questions, all of them related to your background as a person/pilot and some not so complicated technical questions. I would like to know about the screening process in Doha, could someone tell me how it is going nowadays? Boeing Type Rated
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 02:06
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: India
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DEC b777 joining date

Hello Friends,

any news on B777 Captain joining date..
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 03:42
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: usa
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Hi ,

I received my travel itinerary for the Type Rated Boeing FO position interview in Doha. I have emailed flight deck recruitment on this but would like to get input from some of my friends here who might have experienced this. One of the documents they request we bring to the interview is the last three pages of logbook signed and stamped. I am from the USA and here logbooks are signed by pilots and thats it, there is no authority or no airline management that would stamp ones logbook. And secondly, the other info they have requested, is the total number of hours flown in your current company and record of that, my company doesnt keep that record but they have just started keeping records of time just in the last 3 months and we get copies of our monthly block time/hours, would the last few months of those sheets be accepted in replacement of the total hours info. Appreciate any info on this.
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 07:46
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Australia
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Logbook

Originally Posted by 737driverUS View Post
Hi ,

I received my travel itinerary for the Type Rated Boeing FO position interview in Doha. I have emailed flight deck recruitment on this but would like to get input from some of my friends here who might have experienced this. One of the documents they request we bring to the interview is the last three pages of logbook signed and stamped. I am from the USA and here logbooks are signed by pilots and thats it, there is no authority or no airline management that would stamp ones logbook. And secondly, the other info they have requested, is the total number of hours flown in your current company and record of that, my company doesnt keep that record but they have just started keeping records of time just in the last 3 months and we get copies of our monthly block time/hours, would the last few months of those sheets be accepted in replacement of the total hours info. Appreciate any info on this.
(1) The Qatar CAA requires logbooks to be submitted in EASA FCL 050 format. There is a sample in here that you could print and use for free. Look at page 42: https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/Easy_Access_Rules_for_Flight_Crew_Licensing_Part-FCL.pdf.

for a bound book, for example: https://www.pilotshop.nl/contents/en...Log_Books.html

So if you are not in that format I would get started transcribing by hand into that format, because you will need it later when your license is submitted for conversion. I would start at the last page and work backwards. I read conflicting requirements, but at the very least, you should have the last page in that format. I did the last six.

That format has a column for "IFR" under operational conditions, next to Night. I found that confusing, as I think they mean "IMC", not "IFR". so I added a column for "IMC" and listed both. You could research that if you like. I wanted to cover all the bases...

(2) Ask someone in flight ops to validate your flight time in a letter on company letter head, listing someone who can be contacted for verification. I did that, as well. Break it down by time with the company and total time as a pilot, including PIC and SIC.

You'll need a copy of your latest sim check, too. If you are planning to leave, I'd PRIA request your whole file.

Do you know anyone from your company who is now at QR? Would be interesting to know what they did.

Note, again, that the JCL 050 format is for the CAA, for conversion after you make it through and are put in the pool/ given a class date. You don't actually need that format for the interview, however, if you show up prepared you'll increase your odds of being one of the 4 or 5 out of 9 or 10 pilots who gets through to the next level.

I wore a tie in QR colours, and I guess it didn't hurt.

Good luck.

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Old 21st Feb 2020, 22:38
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: usa
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Thanks for the info. Yea i actually went through a RECURRENT PC about few weeks ago so I have that fresh PC and what I was tested on for sure that I will take with me. As far as the logbook, like I said in the USA in the last two airlines I have flown for, the airliens done stamp or validate logbooks. At the most what they can provide is the block time history for the last 3 months of the flights I operated which includes the tail number, flight origin.destination and out/off times. At least in my company thats all they can provide as I asked them already. In the letter for the interview invite, it does say they PREFER to have the logbook stamped but there is no requirement listed. As far as the PRIA, yes its good to have that but PRIA is only for the US Air carriers and my friends who are flying for Qatar or any other ME carrier never took their PRIA file. And yes I already have my attire selected which emulates the QR Airways color. Thank you. and good luck to you too.
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 06:35
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Originally Posted by 737driverUS View Post
Thanks for the info. Yea i actually went through a RECURRENT PC about few weeks ago so I have that fresh PC and what I was tested on for sure that I will take with me. As far as the logbook, like I said in the USA in the last two airlines I have flown for, the airliens done stamp or validate logbooks. At the most what they can provide is the block time history for the last 3 months of the flights I operated which includes the tail number, flight origin.destination and out/off times. At least in my company thats all they can provide as I asked them already. In the letter for the interview invite, it does say they PREFER to have the logbook stamped but there is no requirement listed. As far as the PRIA, yes its good to have that but PRIA is only for the US Air carriers and my friends who are flying for Qatar or any other ME carrier never took their PRIA file. And yes I already have my attire selected which emulates the QR Airways color. Thank you. and good luck to you too.
(1) You don't need the stamped log book for the interview. That is for the CAA conversion.
(2) There are many FAA pilots at QR who made it through the process, probably without stamped logbooks.

So ask about this at the interview.

What I am saying is that if you can show them that you are being proactive and have started completing the FCL 050 logbook, and gathering supporting letters/ documents, it would help to make a positive impression and show that you really want to be there. Many pilots go abroad with a "why do you do it this way?" attitude.

All that will get you is a diversion direct to the exit fix, as that is one of the pilot attributes that they are screening for.

Maybe instead of "we don't do it that way in the USA" you might like to say something like "this is all that I am able to obtain, what have other pilots in my position done, and what do you recommend?"

In my case, as I said, they asked for letters on company letterhead from the Chief Pilot or fleet captain, which I was able to obtain. If you can obtain those now, and take them with you, that would be very helpful, I think. The one answer you are not going to get is "well, if you can't get stamps, then we will just take your word for it." You will have to do something to validate your flight time. That's not in QR's hands, it is in the government bureaucracy's domain, and they modelled their world on the UK, which is famous for paperwork and red tape.

As for the PRIA, I have worked for 3 different airlines that are now out of business. I can no longer get my training records from any of them. Airlines come and go. So just as a general practice, when you resign from a flight position, I recommend that you gather ALL the records you can, while you can. We never know in this biz.

Best of luck, and please keep us posted on your interview progress...

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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 09:39
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Originally Posted by 737driverUS View Post
Thanks for the info. Yea i actually went through a RECURRENT PC about few weeks ago so I have that fresh PC and what I was tested on for sure that I will take with me. As far as the logbook, like I said in the USA in the last two airlines I have flown for, the airliens done stamp or validate logbooks. At the most what they can provide is the block time history for the last 3 months of the flights I operated which includes the tail number, flight origin.destination and out/off times. At least in my company thats all they can provide as I asked them already. In the letter for the interview invite, it does say they PREFER to have the logbook stamped but there is no requirement listed. As far as the PRIA, yes its good to have that but PRIA is only for the US Air carriers and my friends who are flying for Qatar or any other ME carrier never took their PRIA file. And yes I already have my attire selected which emulates the QR Airways color. Thank you. and good luck to you too.
If your previous airline provided a monthly recap of flight time that you used to reconcile your pay, that would reflect your professional flying history for interview purposes. As far as logbook stamps go, you could go to a notary at your bank and they can stamp your pages. I went to a foreign police station and had mine stamped. Almost any kind of stamp will do, they just like to see pretty stamps.
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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 04:59
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Aloha KS

Originally Posted by Aloha_KSA View Post
(1) You don't need the stamped log book for the interview. That is for the CAA conversion.
(2) There are many FAA pilots at QR who made it through the process, probably without stamped logbooks.

So ask about this at the interview.

What I am saying is that if you can show them that you are being proactive and have started completing the FCL 050 logbook, and gathering supporting letters/ documents, it would help to make a positive impression and show that you really want to be there. Many pilots go abroad with a "why do you do it this way?" attitude.

All that will get you is a diversion direct to the exit fix, as that is one of the pilot attributes that they are screening for.

Maybe instead of "we don't do it that way in the USA" you might like to say something like "this is all that I am able to obtain, what have other pilots in my position done, and what do you recommend?"

In my case, as I said, they asked for letters on company letterhead from the Chief Pilot or fleet captain, which I was able to obtain. If you can obtain those now, and take them with you, that would be very helpful, I think. The one answer you are not going to get is "well, if you can't get stamps, then we will just take your word for it." You will have to do something to validate your flight time. That's not in QR's hands, it is in the government bureaucracy's domain, and they modelled their world on the UK, which is famous for paperwork and red tape.

As for the PRIA, I have worked for 3 different airlines that are now out of business. I can no longer get my training records from any of them. Airlines come and go. So just as a general practice, when you resign from a flight position, I recommend that you gather ALL the records you can, while you can. We never know in this biz.

Best of luck, and please keep us posted on your interview progress...
Thank you once again for the input and feed back. And yea I also hold the same mindset that when going to apply for a job with a different airline no matter if it is overseas or local, like they say in the USA, you dump what you have learned or adopted from the past and learn and adapt the methods your prospective employer wants. Its the same way for ex. Airline A with B757s want their procedures their way than Airline B's procedure with their 757s even though its the same type rating . I think that is a worldwide fact in any case. And i am certainly prepared for that as I know what to expect and I have experienced that in the last 4 type ratings I have obtained. But I like to be and do things right the first time especially in the admin and paperwork procedures and process. And yes I have my steps in place and I will apply and prepare for each step one by one as I dont want to preplan way too much ahead as that can also go against you. Appreciate your input and wish you the best of luck in your future ahead. Regards.
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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 05:04
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Thank you WorldWide

Originally Posted by WrldWide View Post
If your previous airline provided a monthly recap of flight time that you used to reconcile your pay, that would reflect your professional flying history for interview purposes. As far as logbook stamps go, you could go to a notary at your bank and they can stamp your pages. I went to a foreign police station and had mine stamped. Almost any kind of stamp will do, they just like to see pretty stamps.

Thank you so much for the info my friend. Yes I am able to obtain the monthly block hours report from my company for the last few months. And I have asked one of my friends at QR who is a captain, and he said they will be able to accept it. I was thinking the same thing regarding the notary from a local institution such as you have listed. Thanks a lot my friend and fly safe.
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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 07:13
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Join Date: Feb 2020
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Hello Gentlemen

Any sort of updates on the joining dates for the Airbus or Boeing fleets for First Officers? They seem to have removed the listing for the Airbus vacancy completely off their careers website.
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 10:32
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Hi everyone,

passed the assessment in October (Type rated Boeing FO), been in the pool since then and 2 days ago got emailed asking to update my flying hours and docs,
maybe something is moving,
keep u advised.
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 19:39
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Reducing fleet

Originally Posted by aleandrodc View Post
Hi everyone,

passed the assessment in October (Type rated Boeing FO), been in the pool since then and 2 days ago got emailed asking to update my flying hours and docs,
maybe something is moving,
keep u advised.
Qatar are just about to announce a reduction in fleet size not an increase. They Lost a significant amount of money this year and the CEO has advised that there will be a reduction of employees/ fleet. Perhaps the airspace closures for the last 2 years finally starting to bite.
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 20:02
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Originally Posted by fepilot View Post
Qatar are just about to announce a reduction in fleet size not an increase. They Lost a significant amount of money this year and the CEO has advised that there will be a reduction of employees/ fleet. Perhaps the airspace closures for the last 2 years finally starting to bite.
Where can we find more info about this? Anyone else can confirm mentioned?
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 23:25
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Yes, hiring is about to stop until Coronavirus situation ends. Losses close to $1 billion for fiscal year ending in March...

"CORONA "
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 09:26
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Originally Posted by UAL777 View Post
Yes, hiring is about to stop until Coronavirus situation ends. Losses close to $1 billion for fiscal year ending in March...

"CORONA "
It is not just this. They have expanded rapidly for a long time and been making huge losses. The ceo will announce soon redundancies. They cannot fly into Saudi, uae airspace and this is unlikely to change. Really there will not be an improvement for a while. Ethiad and Emirates also feeling the pinch in general and recruitment has stopped. New low cost carriers are opening like wizz air in Abu Dhabi May be worth trying them....
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 10:19
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fepilot -- What is your source of information?
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Old 28th Feb 2020, 12:24
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Where do u see their T&C?

On their website you can just apply but I want to see what I am applying for.

I am a FO TR 787, does that mean I will fly 787 for Qatar or they can put me on a different type?

Does the assesment take long time (from application until starting if successfull)?


Thanks in advance for answers👍🏻
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Old 28th Feb 2020, 15:08
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Qatar Airways stopped the recruitment for the time being.
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 04:29
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: usa
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so if we have a upcoming assessment in Doha. As per your analysis or update, if the hiring is stopped, do you think they will stop me from coming for the assessment or still interview me and if i do pass the assessment, i will be placed in the pool. I applied for the Boeing Type Rated FO position.
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