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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 18th Jan 2016, 14:41
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: where my body lives
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I really don't think that they are looking for 787 crews. I guess thy have enough level on that type, because whomever i have talked to is flying between 75-85 hours this month.
B777 however is another story. They fly a lot an very short on crew.
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Old 19th Jan 2016, 06:44
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by CAP B767 View Post
Please somebody answer some questions:
2016 B777/ 787 captain paycheck ( not including housing)?
Cost of an apartment ( 2 rooms) in a good neighborhood ?
How much time takes the average training to be ready to the line?
Thanks in advance.
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It took me just under 4 months to line as a B777 DEC.

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Old 19th Jan 2016, 16:24
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Planet Earth
Age: 26
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Hi all. I am starting on an MPL scheme for QA


Can anyone give me info on:

starting salary (i.e. is pilotjobnetwork's figures accurate? what about 2nd officer - nothing there)

how long it will take to get 1st officer from 2nd officer

what the company accommodation is like


are all the not so positive things I am seeing true, and will they still be like this in 2 years time do you think

--

I have searched this thread but it all seems to be about type rated guys who already have licenses not cadets, and nothing QA related in the wanabee forums, oddly.


Please feel free to PM me instead of reply if you prefer


Much appreciated
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Old 19th Jan 2016, 19:19
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Join Date: Dec 2015
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J4ami3:

Starting salary for SO is around 10 000 Qatari Riyals (~2500 Euros)

How long will it take to become FO mostly depends on your fleet but expect something between 6 to 12 months.

Company accomodation is nice altough as a SO you probably will have to share the appartment with someone else.
Private Bedroom for yourself and shared living room and kitchen.
Sometimes private bathroom somethimes shared.

I don't know what negative things you saw about QA so I can't answer that question.

Anyway Congrats for your successfull selection and hopefully will see you soon in Doha.
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Old 19th Jan 2016, 22:36
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Air
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Talent pool update

Dear Applicant,

Thank you for your continued interest in joining Qatar Airways and for your patience.
As promised in our previous email to you last week we have further updates with regards to the manpower requirements to those pilots in our talent pool.

We are happy to let you now that we can now start allocating you with training slots from April 2016 onwards. In order to carry out our operational requirements we will let you know individually when we have a start date for you. In the meantime please can we ask that you fill out the attached Checklist and attach ALL documents .......
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Old 19th Jan 2016, 23:59
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: UK
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You can try out some practice questions for the verbal reasoning and inductive reasoning tests from the Saville and Holdsworth web site:

https://www.cebglobal.com/shldirect/en/practice-tests

The principle with these tests are that they are tests of your ability to logically reason with data. The data may be presented in paragraphs, verbal reasoning; in numbers, numerical reasoning; or shapes and patterns, inductive reasoning.
They are not a test of your general knowledge. They are always timed. There is never enough time to finish the test and get all correct answers so just work through as quickly and accurately as possible. If you have any time left at the end, go back and guess any you were not able to answer. There will be practice questions at the beginning to help you anticipate the style of the test.

The principle with personality tests is that they are not timed so work through reasonably quickly and answer truthfully. There are questions inbuilt to catch you out if you lie. They are looking for your 'fit' within the organisation and in the role.

Hope this helps.
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 13:25
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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isapilot:


Thanks for your reply. I am surprised with the SO salary, I was expecting higher and it will be tough to repay the loan and live at the same time on that money.


Will there be a waiting time from when I arrive in Doha to starting work? or will it be immediate. I know for rated guys there is a hold pool, but for new cadets is this not the case?


Thanks
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 19:49
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Join Date: Dec 2015
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Well the holding pool is normally the time between the assessment and the entry in the company.

For cadets, I honestly don't know if there is a waiting time between the end of your training and the entry.

But what I can tell you is that if you come in doha to start working then you are payed on day one even if there are some delay in your training there, you are employed by the company and thus remunerated.
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Old 21st Jan 2016, 08:32
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Thank you very much Choksawaychaps.

Appreciate

Regards
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Old 23rd Jan 2016, 01:47
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Americas
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What's next?

Hi everyone!
Well, many of us received the last mail with the request to update all the paperwork.
But, somebody knows what's next? They will take all the background from each other an then probably assign fleet? Maybe position to fly? Or what's the line to follow?

Any comments will be welcome in order to be ready for the training slots.

All the luck to everyone!!
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Old 24th Jan 2016, 02:12
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Upcoming Recruitment

With almost 70 350s yet to arrive going forward can anyone comment on which fleet will have the biggest requirement for crews A320,A330,A350,A380,B777 or B787. Logically I would think it would be Airbus wide body but if they stream everyone onto A320 I guess not, as for the Boeing are pilots allowed to jump from dark side to light side?? Which is the best fleet in terms of upgrades, lifestyle, layovers etc..
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Old 24th Jan 2016, 11:08
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Join Date: May 2011
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@jalok

Trying to send you pm but its not going.
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Old 25th Jan 2016, 04:31
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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Update

Hi aviators.. Any inside story or update regarding when would joining dates would be??
They have been emailing and asking documents..
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Old 25th Jan 2016, 10:46
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Probably....

Originally Posted by Ldggrup View Post
Hi aviators.. Any inside story or update regarding when would joining dates would be??
They have been emailing and asking documents..
If I read the SO story would be from Older applicant to newer...
And by the way the mail was sent to all talent pool...
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Old 26th Jan 2016, 10:06
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Worldwide
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Thumbs up Qatar Airways Sim check

I thought everything was first class from the very outset of checking in at the airport to fly to Qatar. I was immediately upgraded to Business Class where the service felt like first class. It was a very nice and pleasant atmosphere the entire journey to Qatar. We arrived in Qatar very early in the morning and were met by two young ladies that escorted us thru the entire immigration process separate from other passengers. There was one other pilot on my flight and we both commented on the wonderful service provided by Qatar Airways. We stayed at the Rotana Oryx hotel not far from where we attended the first day of our screening. There were 6 of us. Two Captains and four FOs. We had one guy that was with us applying for the Qatar Executive business jet subsidiary.

The first day started out with a presentation of Qatar Airways followed shortly by a breakdown of all the pay and benefits. It was very comprehensive and relaxed allowing for questions and discussion. We each introduced ourselves with a short background.... i.e. Name, age, marital status, number of children and current company and aircraft.

Once that was done we handed over our logbooks and documents requested to the Pilots and HR personnel that were in the room. They explained that we would start the Tech exam soon.... also referred to as the 50 question ATP exam. Following that we would be invited individually back to the briefing room for further questions and interview. This interview was of course, provided you passed the 50 Question exam. I studied the question bank available on http://www.latestpilotjobs.com This Qatar Airways Pilot Interview Preparation study material was very valuable and I feel it helped me pass the exam.

Following our exam we all waited in the lobby to be called in individually. I was one of the first pilots called back in and we went over logbooks and any questions they had regarding flight time entries etc... The two individuals conducting my interview were pilots at the airline and were extremely polite and reminded me we are all pilots just having a conversation. They put me at ease right away. Very professional and nice guys in general. They made it a pleasure to go through what can be a very stressful situation.

Questions were very straightforward with no gotcha questions at all. One gentleman asked the questions while the other gentleman made notes about my answers. They wanted as much detail as possible in order to check off the required questions they had to ask. For example.... explain in detail the most difficult situation you've had as a pilot? Like an onboard emergency and the like. They wanted to hear about the CRM with other crew members including flight attendants, FO, with ATC, company dispatch and the outcome of the event. Again drag out the details = means less questions if those items are discussed or mentioned during the question answer period. Many of these questions are found on http://www.latestpilotjobs.com Once they were satisfied with the interview they told me to wait in the lobby and they would call me back in. About 5 minutes later they called me back in to congratulate me on a successful interview and gave me a letter inviting me to the simulator evaluation the following day.

We lost one of the applicants during the interview process. Not sure as to why, but now we were 5 candidates. We all met the following day at 6:15pm for the bus ride over to the Qatar Airways Simulator & Training center not far from our hotel. Don't forget to bring your passport as you will need it to get your temporary security ID to wear around your neck while in the building. Once we arrived we met the simulator instructors that were going to give us our sim check. We were divided up by type and split off for our briefing. They informed us that we would be operating as a crew for the check ride and were told to use our current airline procedures. That was a real good break for us since procedurally it was seamless. It was definitely a workout and challenging at the same time. We are both type rated and were treated like we were doing our PC check.

The aircraft was put on runway 34R at Doha with engines running. We were told to do a normal takeoff briefing to include performance and told he would act as Tower, Departure, Cabin crew, Company Dispatch.....etc .. We did not require headsets and didn't change frequencies, but just spoke out loud as if we were.

We ran thru the briefing including the usual rejected takeoff brief and Engine failure after takeoff stuff. We briefed straight out to 3000 feet for engine failure. Specific accel height is 1500' in Doha.

I started out:
Normal Takeoff following the SID and once the aircraft was cleaned up and my autopilot was engaged ... Radar vector.

TCAS showed an aircraft at only 500' above at 12 o'clock closing. I requested a turn to the right .... unable. Requested turn to the left..... unable. Ok here we go... TCAS alert "Descend, Descend" Auto pilot off followed the PFD guidance. Notified ATC and once clear of the conflict we climbed back up to our previous altitude assigned.

Ding Dong.... Cabin crew..."Captain we have a sick passenger that maybe having a heart attack" Are there any doctors onboard. "NO" any other medical personnel onboard. "NO" Does the passenger have anyone traveling with them that may have knowledge of the passenger's medical history. "NO" Ok now we'll coordinate to return to DOHA... we'll call you back and we'll make a PA. Prepare the cabin for a return to DOHA. I share this with you because they want you to use all your resources .... I didn't get caught up with a call to dispatch to speak with a doctor on call since the cabin crew believed that the passenger was having a heart attack and was unconscious. Close to the airport --- return to base. We notified ATC and confirmed the weather and set up for an approach... Weather was good, performance was good and well below max landing weight. Radar vectors for ILS 34 R.... briefed approach advised the tower to have medical personnel waiting for the passenger. On downwind he turned off the flight directors for a raw data ILS approach into Doha. Short final..... ATC calls "Go Around" After the takeoff checklist and a request to return to Doha for another approach due to the medical emergency he said that scenario was over.

We then repositioned back on the runway and the FO got a chance to do a normal takeoff with Radar Vectors for ILS approach 34R using raw data from the downwind. ATC "Go around" after Takeoff Checklist complete. Repositioned back onto the runway for a normal takeoff 34R. As we prepared for the takeoff the instructor reached up and turned of the TAC ... Here we go ... manual trim... My takeoff.... V1, Vr, Engine Fail..... After evaluation - normal engine fail all the way up to restart the engine. I placed the autopilot on after getting some trim in and rudder pedal still applied .... about 10 units. Ok Engine will not restart according to the instructor. Straight ahead to 3000 feet on the engine failure. Engine failure checklist and after takeoff checklist complete...Requested radar vectors back to the airport.... ILS 34 R - GS out of service.... Non-ILS app. LOC & VNAV - Set-up briefed performance checked - Repositioned just 2.7 miles outside the FF with flaps up speed and a clean machine... Autopilot engaged ... OFF freeze.... Flaps 1, 5, gear down flaps 20 ... before landing checklist.... Remember still single engine. On short final and with autopilot disengaged at 100' ... ATC "Go Around" not again!! Single engine go around with flaps 5. Requested straight ahead to 3000' negative level off at 1500' After clean up and after takeoff checklist complete. Radar vectors for another approach. Autopilot fails and disconnects now weather has improved .... on the downwind for 34R cleared the visual approach report established on final to 34R.... on base 12 kt tailwind .... adjusted for the early turn so as to not overshoot. Still single engine.... 12 to 15 knot crosswind that turned into about a
4 to 5 knot crosswind. Landed .... FO 's turn.... a repeat of what I did without the drama ... Engine fail, Non-ILS 34R, Missed approach.... Vectors for the visual single engine and landing. Great job FO. Lots of hand flying and head work, CRM. Situational awareness is also a big part of the check ride.

Whew!!! .... at the gate .... shut her down boys.... you'll be notified as to the result and offer in about 2 to 3 weeks..

Good luck and all the best to all of you on your screening.

Last edited by jackaaviator; 30th Jan 2016 at 12:13. Reason: Remove information that was not necessary for this post
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Old 26th Jan 2016, 12:36
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Turkey
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The new tests

are the new online tests for NTR's only ? Or is that for both NTR and TR pilots.?
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 09:07
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OOoops

Well, good luck with that one!
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 12:48
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: EU
Age: 39
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Atpl 50 questions exam

Jackaaviator did the database with the approximately 300 questions helped you from latestpilotjobs or the ones of every topic i.e. principles of flight, meteo etc which are thousands?
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Old 28th Jan 2016, 04:28
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Air
Posts: 36
Joining

I have a friend of mine who got joining daye email for June 2016.. Anyone else who has got the joining date email?
When will our turn come..
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Old 28th Jan 2016, 05:46
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Thanks Jackaaviator. I have no intention of joining QR but appreciate you taking the time and effort to share your experiences in such detail. I'm sure someone will be grateful for the opportunity to read what to expect and shows just how helpful some people can be. Cheers
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