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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 24th Jun 2013, 14:28
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In regards to fleet transfers, once your 3 year post-training period is finished, can one "bid" or request another fleet (i.e., bid 787 from A320) or is one offered options based on specific fleet needs at the time? I suppose you can only move to another fleet if a training slot exists.
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 15:13
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Iver,
Would it be any easier to change type if the training has not started yet?
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 16:27
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I do not work for QR so I do not know. I was asking questions related to existing pilots who want to swap fleets after their 3 year post-training period has expired.
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 18:41
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If somebody transfers from 320 to something better, that pilot wont be a Second Officer on that WB aircraft.

The airline would still need to hire Second Officers for that.
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 07:27
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I'm afraid you don't understand how things work at Qatar Airways.
Second Officers are not a necessity anywhere in the fleet for operational
reasons. We don't have S/O cruise pilots like Cathay for example.
S/O is simply an indication of how inexperienced, and in some cases,
useless you are to the operation.
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 08:44
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Wow Mr. Obbie,
that was a very stupid answer ahahaha.
Did u born as a 4 stripes man?
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 09:17
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I don't know about 4 stripes, but that's some pretty sweet level 4
English there my friend. Back to the books for you.
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 09:46
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Hii..
I'm Fokker 50 F/O. .interviewed 10 months ago.and Accepted...now, swimming swimm in the Talent Pool....
Regarding your question...of course you have a good chance...especially with your experience .
Best of luck...
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 10:00
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I'm afraid you don't understand how things work at Qatar Airways.
Second Officers are not a necessity anywhere in the fleet for operational
reasons. We don't have S/O cruise pilots like Cathay for example.
S/O is simply an indication of how inexperienced, and in some cases,
useless you are to the operation.
hi, Be more specific regarding S/O at QR, how it works ?
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 11:44
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A S/O is simply a first officer in training. As soon as you complete your type rating and line training (40sectors FO Fast Track / 120 sectors for Normal) you become a F/O. It's a strange designation because its not actually a permanent position, just a temporary one until you get cleared on the line. They only difference is that your training is longer than someone who joins as an F/O and your salary less. As soon as you clear your training your an F/O. It shouldn't really matter whether you join as an F/O or FTSO except that there's such a training backlog at QR right now that instead of being an SO for 3/4 months you'll be one for a year or maybe more, and it can affect you financially if you have kids etc.

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Old 26th Jun 2013, 12:05
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Two type of S/O. Normal track and Fast track.
Maybe the Obbie answer refer to the Fast track S/O only. Fast track = Usually turboprop experienced pilot.

Normal S/O are fresh CPL with very very close relations with QR crews. Usually family relationship. So I don’t think they are there to compete with any experienced pilot, they are just given the chance to be kind of “successors”.
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 18:32
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Hi guys;
Anyone knows if QR is plannig to hire non type rated drivers again?? Where can apply TP captains to fly a jet?!
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Old 26th Jun 2013, 18:57
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Sir,

With no disrespect to you. No one was born with Flying experience, we all start with an empty logbook. Everybody has there own struggle and there own fight.

The SO might be of Zero necessity but still the company hires them, that is the reason I asked. I, for sure dont know how things work at Qatar Airways. But now I know. Thank you...
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 06:14
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Does anybody knows something about the PAT?
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 08:27
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I have heard that it is gone now.
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 09:42
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Any idea when the applicants for the current opening of type rated fo gonna be called.Thanks

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Old 27th Jun 2013, 09:55
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Most definitely not gone! PAT is still being actively used. Some earlier posts give an insight to its format but there is little prior preparation available.

Before you ask, yes, I have done it and my experience indicates that it is a mostly interesting and positive day.

Sorry but I won't be listing the questions I was asked during the interview.

The format is: online psychometric test before attending, a personal interview followed by the computer based excersises and finally a debrief. Total time 4hours 30 mins. Each candidate will receive an email, prior to attending indicating the type of computer excersises and an actual flying incident that you will be asked to research and then answer question about during the interview part.

Hope that helps, best not to worry too much about it, if you're invited, just go and do it.
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 10:49
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When did you do the PAT?
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 11:06
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Hi guys. I was told I will be invited for PAT on 6 June, then shifted to 16, but I kept on waiting for THE e-mail which I never got. I hope its gone. If not, no worries, just go ahead and do it.
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 12:47
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End of May 2013. Been with the company a number of years, so not a new joiner.

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