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Old 6th Mar 2013, 15:35
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Old 6th Mar 2013, 16:23
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I don't know what to think anymore. I didn't receive any update, nor a DOJ, while it says there is no NTSO for this year. They don't answer e-mail when you send them either. Again, it's confusion time...
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Old 6th Mar 2013, 17:16
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@ITO. Have you already received a formal offer?
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Old 6th Mar 2013, 17:27
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Yes I did.
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 06:53
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Geez, your always being negative Disagreeable.... LOL

wow, isnt this what I have been trying to tell you guys!


Sorry to say, but this has been pre-warned to you guys for a fair while now;


You all are in an annoying situation, but sitting around and waiting for QR is only of benefit if you are ACTIVELY looking/persuing other flying jobs.

Yes, you may not have large amounts of experience, but like I ad others have mentioned before, its about starting small and building up the career, not just getting a golden goat jet job.... that goes for guys under 2000 - 3000 hours.! If your lucky and it fits, take it, if you just sit around and BS yourselves about "being positive", "praying to god" or simply just singing the praises in the hopes of sucking up to somebody in QR to give you something, then you are simply not being confident enough to walk away from the offer and look/make your own luck to speak.
I know, financial crisis etc, but you can manage to sit around waiting for QR, you can also put that into other efforts that will actually build your career. I know many of you are doing that and to them, best of luck!
However, if you are expecting an easy ride through aviation, you just learned a valuable lesson....... unless your offer has a starting date on it, you have signed it and are there on day one, then aviation is simply always going to be a gamble..... welcome....... I suggest the low houred guys (especially) read this book:
FATE IS THE HUNTER......

Good luck.

There is more out there than this place (and the many that leave should have given you the hint)..... one day QR will learn that, but they will learn it quicker if you dont sell your soul standing in line ignoring life and other opportunities waiting for this dusty opportunity.......... then QR may actually be motivated to truely lift its 2 star crew treatment to 5 star....

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Old 7th Mar 2013, 08:12
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Right on spot disagreeable.!
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 09:14
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OMG…what a disaster…all those updates NTSOs received were a joke?

"At this stage, the manpower plan for 2013/14 does not indicate a requirement for direct entry Second Officers, outside those already in a cadet pilot sponsorship program with Qatar Airways."
The question remain, why QR did interview so many NTSO? However not such a bad new, at least you guys been delivered from another 2 years waiting game. Now people may move on. Oh and… avoid aviation for now …pilots are just suffering too much at this time…
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 16:25
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So they sent 2 different email to the people in the pool???

In my email the don´t say anything about the FTSO, but they say this.


This update does not differ dramatically from the previous one, as we continue to employ pilots from the talent pool to meet our manpower requirements for 2013/14. To give you some indication of our hiring trends for the coming 12 months, we now have a small requirement for narrow body Captains throughout the year, along with some limited narrow body First Officer requirements toward the end of the year. We have a continuing need for wide body Captains and there could also be a limited requirement for Fast Track Second Officers on our wide body fleet toward the end of the year. It remains our intention to draw the majority of these requirements from the existing talent pool members wherever this is possible.
Our next update will be sent to you in May 2013 and I hope that many of you will begin to receive joining dates for this year between now and then.


Let´s see if it´s true that they start giving DOJ between now and May.
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 16:35
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That is the email that everybody recieved. The NTSO got an extra email telling what somebody already wrote before here.
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 16:42
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NTSO

Indeed, all NTSO´s got a second e-mail which basicly told them:

'Thank you for waiting more than a year, but now it's time for you to move on. Bye bye'

A huge disappointment for those NTSO waiting for the 'Golden Goat'. But.. believe it or not, I actually feel relieved that I now finally can move on.
Goodluck

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Old 8th Mar 2013, 05:56
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Instrument rating

Hi

All the candidates who are selected for NTSO & FTSO and are waiting in the pool, do you guys have to keep your instrument rating current?
If yes then the hole in the pocket will keep getting bigger in lieu with the recent updates

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Old 8th Mar 2013, 10:59
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stealth89, if you are serious with that question and also passed the qr selection, then it is no wonder that they abandon so many talent pool ntso.
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Old 8th Mar 2013, 11:21
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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Hello swimmers euhh Sinkers ! Yes QA want you guys to have a Valid IR upon joining with min of 6 months validity, but doesn't mean they wont call you ! Anyway no more NTSO unless you have some big balls in here. I have surrendered after a long long wait, now its time to move on guys ! I know lots of ppl who passed the assessment after me and got their offer letters in DEC and FEB, why ? Because DADDY is a well connected captain at QA etc etc , Good luck to all of us...
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Old 8th Mar 2013, 16:50
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QR accepts ICAO licenses such as FAA. there are no expiries.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 06:03
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@stealth89

What happened here is probably something terrible for some

My “cheaper” ICAO licence cost me a lot and been a complete loss but I remember many guys of my group did the mistake to get those expensive JAA licences. Some of them did renew their IR (due to a one year validity or something) while receiving all those fake updates to stay ready. I can’t imagine their terrible situation if they don’t find a decent flying job out there.

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Old 9th Mar 2013, 06:54
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What would you guys reckon the number of FTSO's in the pool is?
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 08:05
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What would you guys reckon the number of FTSO's in the pool is?
I think about half of everybody in the pool is FTSO's.And the biggest part of the other half is FO's with only a small number of Captains.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 19:04
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I heard that the total number of people in the pool is around 250, but that is just another rumor more.... I don´t think we will ever know the exact number of people there.


The issue with the license can be because to get a Qatari licence they might need to issue from another one, and same with the IR endorsement, It´s not the only place they do this, when I did in the country I´m flying now they ask me for the same thing, fully valid licence and then they contact my country licence authority for a verification or validation or authentication on that licence and then after an air law exam I got the new licence.
I´m not sure but this could be the case here.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 19:24
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Nrs in the pool are 500+.. At least 250 FTSO
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Old 10th Mar 2013, 06:06
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QR accepts ICAO licenses such as FAA. there are no expiries.

Not entirely true, your instrument currency needs to be maintained by verifiable logged hours, or an instrument proficiency check every 6 months by a suitably qualified instructor..
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