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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 19th Nov 2012, 14:26
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Doha, Qatar
Age: 50
Posts: 426
The website says they are looking for current 777 captains who would be able to join by April 2013.
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 14:44
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 97
777 captains...

To be quickly converted onto the 787... Perhaps...
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 08:52
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Where aviation management replaces common sense
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To be quickly converted onto the 787... Perhaps...
Wrong, They will not move from the 777 if they come direct...
They will make up for the people leaving on the 777..... as well as to keep the "senior" guys happy who were offered the 787 and now cant have it due to a shortage of 777 guys at the moment....... even though lots of guys are sitting on the ground twiddling their thumbs waiting to be trainined! ...Yawn. so predictable
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 12:18
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In the Desert
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DOJ 25 November 2012

Anybody Joining on the 25th November ....

Any information on the temporary accommodations they provide on arrival would be helpful.

High'n Fast
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 13:56
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: 3rd planet
Age: 40
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High n fast
Hi just have a few questions trying to figure out where I am in the pool .I interviewed in Feb 2012 first officer position I don't have a type and I was assigned the a320 signed contract in May got the talent pool email.in July and still waiting .
When did u interview ?
When did you sign your contract
Which aircraft did they assign you?
Did you get the talent pool email in July

Sorry for so many questions just trying to see where I stand .
Thanks
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 19:59
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Europe
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disagreeable,

Thank you for all of your detailed posts. Very informative. Are the 777 slots open because of pilot departures or just fleet growth? Also, I thought that 787 slots were primarily going to be filled by A320 pilots - still true? Or will 787 slots be filled by pilots from all fleets who have the seniority to bid it (including those from the 777)?

Cheers
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 20:08
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: MainlandEurope
Posts: 112
...

@Hig´n Fast
Hi there ,most likely u will join us all in the current company accomodation (details will be given when u recieve your tickets )(which is a Residence Hotel ) .Depending on your Rank you will get big 2 bedroom or even more bigger 3 Bedroom Apt.
This is for 6 weeks ...

I recommend to bring for first days :Shoer Gel and towels ..not provided.also maybe if youre a UK resident an extension cable with several sockets to plug your stuff in ...

The rest u will get here sorted out real quick .

Enjoy your Trip ,see u soon down here
Cheers UP

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Old 20th Nov 2012, 20:10
  #5628 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: europe
Posts: 15
Pool

Hi guys,

This is my first post here. Hope i can give some good infos. I've heard that the order to get a contract/DOJ is.... people with job offer unemployed (2 months), with job offer employed(2-4 months), no job offer unemployed (4-6 months), no job offer employed (6-8 months). So don't plan much about when you got your assessment it doesn't really count.

Happy landings!
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 09:42
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Where aviation management replaces common sense
Posts: 70
Thank you for all of your detailed posts. Very informative. Are the 777 slots open because of pilot departures or just fleet growth? Also, I thought that 787 slots were primarily going to be filled by A320 pilots - still true? Or will 787 slots be filled by pilots from all fleets who have the seniority to bid it (including those from the 777)?

Cheers
Thanks Iver, nice to hear that somepeople actually take note of reality!
to answer your Q's:
Thank you for all of your detailed posts. Very informative. Are the 777 slots open because of pilot departures or just fleet growth?
Primarily open for both but pilot departures are the main cause. (40 T7 F/O's and some cpts possibly) vacated across the water to the unmentionable T.had

But what the original deal was that the first handful of 787 huys were to come from the T7 (~20) then the rest from the 320 mostly (with smatterings from 330 etc). depending on delivery rate of the 787, it was originally going to be about 7 F/O's and maybe a captain here and there going to the 787 per month.

Now that the mass exodus of the T7 guys happened, I am not sure that the guys from the T7 have moved over, maybe just a small number untill T7 fleet is stabilised again......... BUT the direct entry guys on that should expect to stay on that I reckon! not a bad bird to be stuck on

Or will 787 slots be filled by pilots from all fleets who have the seniority to bid it (including those from the 777)?
In terms of mentioning "seniority number" and the bidding for stuff process in QR.

You get two numbers: A Joining Date number (staff number) and a FLC (final Line Check) number.

Now, as I mentioned that people are being steped over at a rapid rate in the training here so those poor bastards are watching guys join WAY after them and getting trained first, which gives them a FLC number before guys who joined months and months before them, which means that bidding for cmd and fleet transfers is being pushed way back for some (FTSO's and SO's mostly)!

Also, as a caveat to that, it states that "performace" is also considered when bidding... so if a CS didnt like you, or you mentioned to a captain about his delberate mishandling of the a/c and he has higher up contacts, expect that your "performance" wont place you in good steed for the cmd or the transfer...... very political and backstabbing..... sadly....

The only light at the end of the tunnel is that they are going to have to concede somewhere soon, when they get planes delivered that sit on the ground and people still leave in droves, they may actually start to work things out...... NOT (insert satirical diabolical laughter)

Hope this helps!
QR is ok, but it is certainly not the golden goose like many make it out to be.

Last edited by disagreeable; 21st Nov 2012 at 17:39.
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 10:03
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK
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T7 exodus

Maybe guys are sitting around, and then QR recruiting DE type rated Captains, is because of a lack of trainers?
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 12:34
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
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Any poolies get the "end of November" update???
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 13:13
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Above the clouds where the sun is always shining
Age: 28
Posts: 71
it's not yet the end of November

and if they always have the same time frame i expect the end of November update somewhere between half of December and February
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 13:30
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Location: Earth
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@Jmodel

May I ask where or who did you hear this from?

Brgds.
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 19:24
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Europe
Age: 40
Posts: 3
@Jmodel

people with job offer unemployed, 6 months and counting....
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 19:45
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: dry land
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Someone can have my seat, i'm out of here!
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 19:49
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: FR
Posts: 11
Motivation?
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 19:57
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On a Wing!
Posts: 204
Can anyone help with the complete QR pay package for a DEC new joiner.
Kids education and free accommodation included....??
Thanks for the help.
Cheers
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 20:01
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: everywhere and nowhere
Posts: 73
@jmodel,

people without job offer unemployed, closer to 13 months now
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 21:10
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: europe
Posts: 15
Pool

Guys my source is quite good.... The "months" I told you are starting from November.... Hope to give some infos to all my fellows swimmers...
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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 07:39
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Where aviation management replaces common sense
Posts: 70
read this thread:
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/46...ar-salary.html
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/46...ing-qatar.html

Note that as a DEC you may get looked after alot better than F/O's, SO's etc
BUT you still will get worked hard!!
Chances are you will get accomodation provided, but at this stage there is a housing issue; however depending on your train of thought, co.housing or finding your own villa has its pro's and cons.

Good luck.

Last edited by disagreeable; 22nd Nov 2012 at 07:42.
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