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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 9th Sep 2012, 04:50
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Hey guys. Has interviewing also stopped completely for the time being? Or are interviews still taking place?

What is the reason for the slow-down in hiring? There are still loads of A/C on the way for QR.

Best of luck to those waiting on news.
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Old 9th Sep 2012, 15:47
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Hey guys. Has interviewing also stopped completely for the time being? Or are interviews still taking place?
They are still taking place. Slow rate!!

What is the reason for the slow-down in hiring? There are still loads of A/C on the way for QR
*SOs who are inducted are been kept on hold (line training). Currently chances are given to Capts and FOs.
*lots of pilots who have passed the assessment, have been placed in talent pool.

So the people who are in the company they need to move first and then the talent pool will start clearing. Once the talent pool starts to clear then the recruitment will be again at its peak. Most of the delay is on 320.

As said loads of times--- ***PATIENCE IS THE KEY IN QR***

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Old 9th Sep 2012, 17:29
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Thanks for the reply FL123.

Are they taking pilots off the A320 and upgrading them to other aircraft as more airframes pile up? Wonder what A/C the talent pool will head for.

Is there a website or link anywhere as to the delivery schedule of QR??

Cheers !
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Old 9th Sep 2012, 18:09
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Are they taking pilots off the A320 and upgrading them to other aircraft as more airframes pile up? Wonder what A/C the talent pool will head for.
yes, most pilots from 320 to 787.
regarding talent pool - it depends on the no of hours and rating for 777. But, low hours get onto 320 or sometimes 330.

Is there a website or link anywhere as to the delivery schedule of QR??
You mean the delivery schedule of 787? I dont know if there is any though.
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Old 9th Sep 2012, 19:09
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HI everybody, I applied with QR in January 2012 and received a mail from HR in July, I should send them a Paper which states my ATPL subject results.
I uploaded this form into my online application account with QR and since then never heard anything back from HR. For your info: all ATPL Subject have a 80% or higher and passed the first time.

Does anybody know what happens now and how long an invite will take?

Thanks for your post and replies!!!

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Old 9th Sep 2012, 19:53
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Hi guys,

One question please: when you update your online application form, do you receive a confirmation email from QR or not? I had a confirmation email when I first applied and after a couple of months I updated the application but did not receive any email to confirm. Is that normal?

cheers.
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Old 9th Sep 2012, 20:12
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..

as mentioned before it takes time

myself was also asked for this results ,sent them--> took them 4 months to give me then my result of the Interview.
Anyway still have strong believe all will be ok and soon or later they will call us back .

cheers
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Old 9th Sep 2012, 21:07
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@MidRange
I applied Nov 2011. Dec 2011 HR asked for MCC and ATPL results 89% average ( I know its very average) with 1 repeat. In mid Feb I was invited for a interview. So, 2 months & 1 week after I have submitted the results online before I got the invitation.
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 09:00
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@whatelse

Everytime if i log in my account, even without updating it, i always get a confirmation mail.

But my hope is dead.
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 11:00
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Hello MD83 FO,

If you think that 5 Pilots from 120 is "MOST" of The Spanair Guys are failing... You are right. Any way, some of then didn't get The RP because X-Ray problems.

Best Regards

MD83 said:

most of the spanair pilots are failing so dont lose hope
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 11:42
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x rays ,Problems ????
well dont want to sound stupid ,but dont they also medical in Spain ???

This whole Spanair think annoys me ,simple fact is ,next big opening in Spain all wanna go home .
Its a Job Nomad thing I guess specially in the Airline World ,little movement ,one company closes next opens -->just use the same people ...
Or they take the ones paying for themselves to fly .....thats the Rookie intake ,mix it with few Ladies and youre all legal and noone can blame your hiring Culture.

Thats what i like here in Qatar ,you get a chance ,they look at you and give you a opportunity to develop yourself .I hope this will not get destroyed by some smarta$$$ in a Department who comes up with saving by just using typerated Guys .



Let the beating begin ...

cheers
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 12:49
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Hi guys,

One question please: when you update your online application form, do you receive a confirmation email from QR or not? I had a confirmation email when I first applied and after a couple of months I updated the application but did not receive any email to confirm. Is that normal?

cheers.
I have the exact same as you. No emails or anything whenever i update my online application

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Old 10th Sep 2012, 14:59
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I really don't think that the sniping at the Spanair guys is meant as maliciously as some are taking it... It's no secret that elements of the recruitment process have been poorly executed.. And that there are potentially hundreds of highly qualified professionals around the globe sitting on the backsides being starved of information about something that is quite frankly an enormous undertaking..

It's not a decision to be taken lightly.. People in some cases moving their families away from everything they hold close (Spanair pilots included).. others its a big big step up career wise..

Myself.. I get asked a couple of times a day 'Any news from Qatar?'.. My boss asks me..My kids ask me..I get asked at the school gate dropping my kids off... Even my landlord.. It's a colossal mess..

I feel for the guys (and girls) that are out of work.. but I don't blame anybody, not Spanair, or Qatar Airways.. there's no deliberate campaign to p##s pilots around the world off.. No calculated agenda.. It's just very unfortunate..



a bit more info from QR wouldn't go amiss though
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 06:34
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x rays ,Problems ????
well dont want to sound stupid ,but dont they also medical in Spain ???
You do realize different countries have different medical standards? For example, I can hold a FAA First class medical but by UK CAA standards, I could only hold a third class medical with my medical issue. I have doubts I could hold a QR first class medical too. The real problem here isn't the medical issues of pilots. The problem is that Qatar doesn't do the medical exam a part of the interview process like Emirates does. By having the medical taken care of as part of the interview cycle, you can find out right away that something is a problem. Right now, I could get hired at Qatar, get a class date, quit my job, leave my home country, come to Doha, and then find out my medical condition is actually unacceptable by QR standards. The problem here isn't the pilots.

This whole Spanair think annoys me ,simple fact is ,next big opening in Spain all wanna go home .
Its a Job Nomad thing I guess specially in the Airline World ,little movement ,one company closes next opens -->just use the same people ...
Or they take the ones paying for themselves to fly .....thats the Rookie intake ,mix it with few Ladies and youre all legal and noone can blame your hiring Culture.
Huh? Why does that annoy you? They are Spaniards who feel forced out of their employment, voluntarily or involuntarily, and are pursuing opportunities elsewhere to keep their families taken care of. Their family ties are in Spain, not Qatar. So yes, if a better opportunity opens back up in Spain, then they will bail, as they should! Family and home is most important.



Thats what i like here in Qatar ,you get a chance ,they look at you and give you a opportunity to develop yourself .I hope this will not get destroyed by some smarta$$$ in a Department who comes up with saving by just using typerated Guys .
So what if they hire type rated guys only? That is usually almost an external factor in hiring, predicated on the industry's status as a whole. Have a lack of qualified pilots applying or coming through your door, then the company is apt to take non-type rated guys. Or have a glut of pilots who are out of work with plenty of Airbus or Boeing time, and the company can then require type rated pilots only. It just depends. I don't get why that makes you upset?

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Old 11th Sep 2012, 08:17
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Redline,

same situation here in Paris : have been asked many times by people around me "so you are still there ?!...". Every morning at the school gate : "When do you plan to leave finally ?". Answer : no idea !
French Expat generally work for petroleum companies like TOTAL, and have attractive package. They are not immigrants in Qatar but just expats for 2/3 years. They have very good salaries and nice houses close to west bay. So people around me don't understand why I have no clues about QR. Both schools of my children are really confused about what I tell them. I initially told them that we would leave on June. Still there in September, and I think still there in January, or worse, never called by QR. Qr has changed his recruitment process. Harder and longer. Too many people failing I have heard. They think the recruitment process was not sufficient. So what will happen to all of us on the talent pool who passed with the old process ?

I have 3 kids including a baby of 4 months. Not that easy to plan the big move to Doha without any info ! And I guess (hope) they will send me a small email one day saying "Your DOJ is xxx. (in 2 or 3 weeks)" !
My wife is nervous. Every day is a challenge. Jobless, no money, long waiting from QR. Do I have to pay another type rating without any real plan and a critical financial situation ? At least I have this plan to Doha. We are very motivated because aviation in France is completely dead. AF is not recruiting a single guy since 2008 and talk about redundancies today. They have a crappy plan until 2015, which is supposed to save the company. But nothing really serious have changed. BA has changed (the contracts and sometimes the salaries). LH as well I think. Will AF change seriously someday ? Not good for French jobless pilots. This is roughly the only solid and attractive company group in France. Not like in Germany or the UK where we can find other companies like German wings, Air Berlin, Easy Jet, Ryanair, Virgin, BMI ...etc
I am ready to relocate anywhere in Western Europe with my family, but nobody wants me without any experience on type. So let's wait for QR, the only chance in the World for untype rated guys ...

I have a friend who paid his 320 type rating last year. No job at the end. He is still jobless. He was looking for something in Vietnam. They are finally not interested in his profile because many guys have some experience on type in the world. And they prefer to hire foreign experienced captains, and train their local copilots (asian ones). So useless to pay a new type rating.

Aviation is definitely becoming completely crazy today. Too many young guys ready to PAY for flying in a company and buy some block hours !!! Is there any other job like this ...? I doubt. Paying to work and build at least some experience ! But what about their personal life ? How do you get married and grow up children with this kind of life ?...

The myth of aviation is dead. There are some old companies still very attractive (major ones), struggling to stay competitive. And new ones (mainly low cost), who give some jobs to all jobless pilots in the world (Asia and ME companies).

Employed guys work like hell and are bored flying, when jobless guys struggle to find a job. What a stupid situation.


Well, finally pilots are the same than yesterday. Let's meet in Doha one day, and keep aviation spirit alive (if any ...) all together around a beer.

Just my personal current vision of today's Aviation.

Flying since 1990.
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 08:35
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Can somebody please post a link to the flightdeck career page. I cannot find it on qatarairways.com ( from the UK ). Is it worth to update your application if you are already simming in the pool? I have flown about 350 hours since the interview and IR expire date has change. Thank you.
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 16:03
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sqn012

Well said sqn012.

Flying is becoming slowly only for those who want to sell their souls for it. The reward....... is there even one anymore?
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 18:33
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@b767pl: it is not only about selling your soul. I'm also prepared to pay my rating for 737/a320. The reason? I'm 36, heading to the 40's. I need a breakthrough cause soon ( or maybe im already) you are too old. And if paying my rating can be the solution, well so be it. Im stuck in bizz aviation. Guess what: it is a job not a career!!
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 19:29
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passed but did not accept employment.

From what I understand if one declines a class date offer then it's game over...permanantly...
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 21:55
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@sqn012

Sqn, First of all, the major part of your post well said.

The part I don't agree with is the part about the selections. As far as I know the selection still consists of a written test, interview and sim and all on the same day. Which part in your opinion has gotten more difficult? And what takes longer exactly? I believe that information is not true. Don't get me
Wrong though, I believe that the process was indeed short and not too difficult, I just dont think it has been changed.

Ps: If im wrong, and it indeed has been changed, please can anybody explain the new selection system?

Cheers guys! And goodluck!
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