Ayla Aviation in Jordan?
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I hear most are leaving or have left!
The tally to date 4 expat engineers, HR Manager, Student Manager, Chief Ground Instructor, CFI, 4 or more Ground Instructors, 5 or more Flight Instructors, COO (missing in action), A dozen or more PA's to the owner, Quailty Manager Maintenance, Maintenance Librarian, Receptionist x 3, PA to COO, Standards Manager, at least 5 IT Managers, Head of Maintenance School .............
Any one think of any more?
Great NEW school, shiney aircraft, great facilities, students well looked after and staff treated like
I hear most are leaving or have left!
The tally to date 4 expat engineers, HR Manager, Student Manager, Chief Ground Instructor, CFI, 4 or more Ground Instructors, 5 or more Flight Instructors, COO (missing in action), A dozen or more PA's to the owner, Quailty Manager Maintenance, Maintenance Librarian, Receptionist x 3, PA to COO, Standards Manager, at least 5 IT Managers, Head of Maintenance School .............
Any one think of any more?
Great NEW school, shiney aircraft, great facilities, students well looked after and staff treated like
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This is very stupid! I understand that you are very upset, but anybody anywhere and anytime will be able to magnify small things to look very very large! As a student, I can tell you that the CFI was so stupid and was the one who had the worst flight plan ever! Which needs 4-5 months to finish your PPL flight training!!! And to clarify, I am talking about full time flying!!! For your knowledge, Ayla has now an excellent CFI who is very experienced and knows what she does!
CGI, the new guy is one of the best in the world (and I bet this). Receptionist, so what?! Are they so effective in the process of learning?!!! I personally do NOT care if they have a new one every day!
Quality Assurance manager?! Who said he left?! Open your eyes widely!! Head of Maintenance School?????!! I know him in person, he is in another section and the maintenance school is still an idea! I don't see any maintenance students around! Do you??!!
What else?! Should I answer all your points? Please be sure of what you write and PLEASE write the whole story!
I just wanted to clarify my point of view of this attack here against my lovely Ayla, in which I learned to fly high and stay on the top of the list...
Safe flights to everybody, including you playingup..............
This is very stupid! I understand that you are very upset, but anybody anywhere and anytime will be able to magnify small things to look very very large! As a student, I can tell you that the CFI was so stupid and was the one who had the worst flight plan ever! Which needs 4-5 months to finish your PPL flight training!!! And to clarify, I am talking about full time flying!!! For your knowledge, Ayla has now an excellent CFI who is very experienced and knows what she does!
CGI, the new guy is one of the best in the world (and I bet this). Receptionist, so what?! Are they so effective in the process of learning?!!! I personally do NOT care if they have a new one every day!
Quality Assurance manager?! Who said he left?! Open your eyes widely!! Head of Maintenance School?????!! I know him in person, he is in another section and the maintenance school is still an idea! I don't see any maintenance students around! Do you??!!
What else?! Should I answer all your points? Please be sure of what you write and PLEASE write the whole story!
I just wanted to clarify my point of view of this attack here against my lovely Ayla, in which I learned to fly high and stay on the top of the list...
Safe flights to everybody, including you playingup..............
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my name is issa ayyoub and im replying by the name of all charlie 1 students to the one who wrote that ayla is the biggest mistake of his life (thats offcorse if u have life) ... im just gonna tell that if u dont like ayla or you dont like jordan (aqaba) then you are not welcomed in jordan ... so u can leave ayla and jordan 
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Ayla Fleet
What does Ayla's fleet look like?... i know they have DA40's and DA 42's.. but how many??? and what about flying.... as an instructor.. how many hrs do you fly in a month?
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I am not upset in anyway, just highlighting the high staff turnover. Fact Ayla has had more staff than students,is there something wrong with this picture ...... think about it.
Yes the CGI is the best in the world ........ just ask him!
My tally was for left or leaving.
I am not upset in anyway, just highlighting the high staff turnover. Fact Ayla has had more staff than students,is there something wrong with this picture ...... think about it.
Yes the CGI is the best in the world ........ just ask him!
My tally was for left or leaving.
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Yes the new CGI is the COO of AFT and he is here temporarily. He is one of the greatest aviators ever and I am sure he will find a good guy for the position before he leaves (he is not leaving for few months).
T dot
Check your inbox.
playingup
Great that you know my real name, at least you know that I am not the owner and I defend my own point of view. You can tell that to the rest of attackers here
In course Alpha, we started when there were more staff than students (we were only 10 guys), and this is very normal for a new starting academy. The number of students is growing up and soon they will need even more staff.
Good luck to everybody and please fly safely...
Saladin Odeh
Yes the new CGI is the COO of AFT and he is here temporarily. He is one of the greatest aviators ever and I am sure he will find a good guy for the position before he leaves (he is not leaving for few months).
T dot
Check your inbox.
playingup
Great that you know my real name, at least you know that I am not the owner and I defend my own point of view. You can tell that to the rest of attackers here
In course Alpha, we started when there were more staff than students (we were only 10 guys), and this is very normal for a new starting academy. The number of students is growing up and soon they will need even more staff.
Good luck to everybody and please fly safely...
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I'm from the Delta course in Ayla.
Well, truth to be said not even a single organization in the whole entire galaxy is perfect. For god's sake, not even Microsoft is perfect. Ayla is a one year old academy and in my point of view it is going on fine. Sure, it has its downs and ups in some certain fields like any other academy but the facilities are great and the hospitality is amazing.
When I first arrived to Aqaba, I got extremely sick and was hospitalized and Ayla's staff hospitality is something that cannot be compared with anything else, they kept on coming by and checking on me and made me feel right at home.
The city itself is not that pleasant if you are used to going out every weekend and having a kick whenever you want to because the place is empty and lacks entertaining facilities. BUT, Ayla sends a bus to Amman WEEKLY free of charge for its students and other than that they organize events to keep us busy from actually printing the Jeppesen into our heads. As it truly effects the performance of the cadet in the surrounding atmospher, it would be a totally different issue if I was in California flying DA40/42s up next to Long Beach but Ayla is doing a great job even though we are surronded by mountains instead of long beach and cabs instead of Benz and Ferraris.
Overall, Ayla is one of the best academies within the region, there is better and there is worse but hopefully, Ayla will stand out within a wider range in the next couple of years as they have recently introduced the MPL course
and keep on manifesting what is best to its students and facilities. It isn't really OUR business as students to know why the instructors were fired or resigned because we are the students here and at the end of the day we get what we were promised and that would be EDUCATION. They deliver and we deliver in return.
Thanx.
Well, truth to be said not even a single organization in the whole entire galaxy is perfect. For god's sake, not even Microsoft is perfect. Ayla is a one year old academy and in my point of view it is going on fine. Sure, it has its downs and ups in some certain fields like any other academy but the facilities are great and the hospitality is amazing.
When I first arrived to Aqaba, I got extremely sick and was hospitalized and Ayla's staff hospitality is something that cannot be compared with anything else, they kept on coming by and checking on me and made me feel right at home.
The city itself is not that pleasant if you are used to going out every weekend and having a kick whenever you want to because the place is empty and lacks entertaining facilities. BUT, Ayla sends a bus to Amman WEEKLY free of charge for its students and other than that they organize events to keep us busy from actually printing the Jeppesen into our heads. As it truly effects the performance of the cadet in the surrounding atmospher, it would be a totally different issue if I was in California flying DA40/42s up next to Long Beach but Ayla is doing a great job even though we are surronded by mountains instead of long beach and cabs instead of Benz and Ferraris.
Overall, Ayla is one of the best academies within the region, there is better and there is worse but hopefully, Ayla will stand out within a wider range in the next couple of years as they have recently introduced the MPL course
and keep on manifesting what is best to its students and facilities. It isn't really OUR business as students to know why the instructors were fired or resigned because we are the students here and at the end of the day we get what we were promised and that would be EDUCATION. They deliver and we deliver in return.
Thanx.
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Striker, an intelligent well constructed post and I think accurate from a students viewpoint.
Clearly all who read here are not students and some may be looking for employment at Ayla. The staff and ex staff viewpoint I think may well be different to your own and as such it is fair for them to voice their concerns to prospective employee's.
Clearly all who read here are not students and some may be looking for employment at Ayla. The staff and ex staff viewpoint I think may well be different to your own and as such it is fair for them to voice their concerns to prospective employee's.
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Now that is getting warmer in the gulf and I have more time to sit down watching the sea and organizing my thoughts, let me comment a few posts.
Icecream, according to Abu Dhabi sources he is around $9M SHORT of his business
Mech, my advice to you would be not to judge instructors since you are not qualified (i.e. not a Check Airman, if you know what that is), and work on your attitude toward a colleague. I wouldn't enjoy sharing a cockpit with you and your ego.
Space, are you trying to deny that you, like all the other multi guys flew unpressurized aircraft at night above 12,000ft for several hours without oxygen?
Plitio, 3- didn't you guys (class A and B) complain about a couple of ground instructors unable to deliver the subject? should I name them?
4- I could recall 4 incident in which you guys complained about flight instructors and asked for a change of instructor
I think how management treats students is out of the question. The problem, just like Poms said, is how management treats the workforce. In other words, to accommodate students requests instructors, drivers, student service and all the other employees are treated as something that the CEO and the CFI found on the bottom of their shoes
Me, evidently you are not a class A student. I heard them saying just the opposite
Playing, let's see, the last instructor that left after 2 weeks in that "top" school just marked number 42 on the list of employees that left Ayla in less than 11 months of operation. Considering that the actual number of employees (not counting janitors and drivers) are less than that, I would say it's definitely a record! Should we mention the reasons? Just a couple to make the picture:
1- a maintenance manager dismissed because was making the maintenance too expensive? so now he's gone and we cut the costs on maintenance. yeah great result, cheap maintenance!
2- a corporate pilot dismissed because he didn't deliver a powerpoint presentation on teaching methods. What a pity he was not an instructor nor an IT guy...
T dot, good luck. there is a bookie already taking bets on how long you'll last. more than 4 months is 10 to 1!
Skodeh, are you talking about this guy on top left corner? http://www.npu.ac.th/iac/personal%20...f%20flight.htm
I guess they liked his plans so much in Thailand that they made him CFI, so are Thai pilots all nuts or what?
Of course. Do you know what she does? because the 80% of instructors in Ayla still don't know
Zone, or maybe to stand on the flagpole on attention while the ship is sinking? well, all the others have abandoned the ship already. (I believe you know better than anybody else why he was sent there, don't you?)
Issa, I better not comment your post.
Skodeh, I will save the whole story for next time
We could talk and see what is your problem with Ayla because our CEO is really into his business
So my advice is ...before you ever talk about fine man, look in the mirror and ask yourself...am I qualified to grade fine instructors like these
Ayla's problems have nothing to do with safety and quality
3- Good ground instructors so far.
4- As I heard from the previous batches, every single flight instructor is excellent and there arent much problems with them.
4- As I heard from the previous batches, every single flight instructor is excellent and there arent much problems with them.
4- I could recall 4 incident in which you guys complained about flight instructors and asked for a change of instructor
the management is doing the best to solve and satisfy the students. For people who dont know whats going on here, come and see how the management treats the students!!
The Right To Terminate The Disqualified To Keep Ayla One Of The Best Companies Inthe World
Any one think of any more?
1- a maintenance manager dismissed because was making the maintenance too expensive? so now he's gone and we cut the costs on maintenance. yeah great result, cheap maintenance!
2- a corporate pilot dismissed because he didn't deliver a powerpoint presentation on teaching methods. What a pity he was not an instructor nor an IT guy...
I have an interview w/ Ayla for a flight instructor position...
I can tell you that the CFI was so stupid and was the one who had the worst flight plan ever!
I guess they liked his plans so much in Thailand that they made him CFI, so are Thai pilots all nuts or what?
Ayla has now an excellent CFI who is very experienced and knows what she does!
Isn't the new CGI the COO of AFT, sent there to steady the ship?
if u dont like ayla or you dont like jordan (aqaba) then you are not welcomed in jordan
Please be sure of what you write and PLEASE write the whole story!
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the city is not boooring IF U DONt kNOW how to hAve Fun and Goo out and EnjoY uR tiME thats UR PRobLem !! ,,, im a STudent From bRaVo and i EnjoY aqaba ,, it HAd niCe weather ,,, sea ,,, nICe cafes and clubs ... nice liFe ,,, they have Good Instructors ,, goo see the other academyz then say IF iT IS GOOOD OR noT !! IN MA hoLE liFE ayla was my best choise ,, and realy thankfull for the captains and all what they diD 4 us ,,, and if u dont like it dont even bother and write in pppune gooo find another academy . ayla is goood
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Aylavoice, is that a proper nickname for the type of negative post you write about the academy? You are right, its getting warmer in the middle east which makes it nice to sit free and reply to your post too 
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Desert_wind: You wrote the whole topic and disappeared, plus, your account if created on FEB 2008 and this is your first reply mmmm NO COMMENT.
amendedcleaance: The biggest universities in the world have a larger number of employement and resigning employees every month but all of them are stil running.
Now back to "Ayla voice" comments.
FYI: Gulf air has been short of business with 150M for the past 2 years (if not more) but the company is still running and starting to improve again. So i guess that is not a criteria which has to be discussed while choosing a flight school to go to. When going to the barber shop, do you ask for his/her diploma?
No it wasnt my group, and if that happened it was a personal attitude from someone else, and group A and B ? What are you talking about. Plus how can we comlain about flight instructors while being in the ground school ? Revise your comments please.
Anyways, considering you are a part of Ayla or any other organisation, to be either a good student or employee it is always important to improve the enviroment you are teaching/studying in rather than complaining and writing negative comments. You seem to have lots of "technical" details about the school which makes it much more useful if you go and discuss it with the management not HERE !! and dont say it wont affect anything because that is just an excuse, try it.
In addition, all your proofs show that you are smart enough to make the right decissions, if you are saying all this about Ayla, then why are you still in there? Wouldnt be a good choice to correct a mistake before its too late?
By end of the day, its the pilot (student) who proves the quality of training he earned and we (Ayla students) will prove that eventually. This topic is going way too far from its purpose which was helping "FLYTOO" to know about Ayla. I would say have a look around in several school then come to Ayla and compare.
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Ayla is the biggest mistake of my life...
After less that a year they lost already some 40 employees
Now back to "Ayla voice" comments.
according to Abu Dhabi sources he is around $9M SHORT of his business
Plitio, 3- didn't you guys (class A and B) complain about a couple of ground instructors unable to deliver the subject? should I name them?
4- I could recall 4 incident in which you guys complained about flight instructors and asked for a change of instructor
4- I could recall 4 incident in which you guys complained about flight instructors and asked for a change of instructor
Anyways, considering you are a part of Ayla or any other organisation, to be either a good student or employee it is always important to improve the enviroment you are teaching/studying in rather than complaining and writing negative comments. You seem to have lots of "technical" details about the school which makes it much more useful if you go and discuss it with the management not HERE !! and dont say it wont affect anything because that is just an excuse, try it.
In addition, all your proofs show that you are smart enough to make the right decissions, if you are saying all this about Ayla, then why are you still in there? Wouldnt be a good choice to correct a mistake before its too late?
By end of the day, its the pilot (student) who proves the quality of training he earned and we (Ayla students) will prove that eventually. This topic is going way too far from its purpose which was helping "FLYTOO" to know about Ayla. I would say have a look around in several school then come to Ayla and compare.
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Pilitio.
Your point about large universities losing people seems to miss the point, it is the amount leaving in relation to amount employed and the timescale that is significant to anyone looking for employment at Ayla.
Were I a potential student I would be most concerned by F Salah's post which doesn't exactly give the impression of the high quality students you refer to!
Your point about large universities losing people seems to miss the point, it is the amount leaving in relation to amount employed and the timescale that is significant to anyone looking for employment at Ayla.
Were I a potential student I would be most concerned by F Salah's post which doesn't exactly give the impression of the high quality students you refer to!
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safety
i am a student here and my concern is about safety.
there are a remarkable number of failures which happened with students from course Bravo and luckily they handled them. it usual to have Engine failures anywhere in the world. but to have frequent failures in such a short time indicates a problem either in the maintainance department or the plane itself..
i wonder why did not they bring this to surface in the last town hall meetings...
any comments guys...??
there are a remarkable number of failures which happened with students from course Bravo and luckily they handled them. it usual to have Engine failures anywhere in the world. but to have frequent failures in such a short time indicates a problem either in the maintainance department or the plane itself..
i wonder why did not they bring this to surface in the last town hall meetings...
any comments guys...??
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Ithink the terminated and disqualified are still attacking ayla no wonder,today I met a student from one of the academies in Amman and he told me that he just have his private pilot certificate after 4 years in that academy ?ok now what do you call this?he went to Bahrain and after he came back they charged him 5000 $ why? becuse he did not inform the management that he is leaving waw this will never happen in ayla
three people lost there life in an aircraft crash one year ago you know what ? until now the accident report never came up why ? becuse money tallks pool ****tt wallks .every thing for sale in that academy ppl licence cpl AtpL licence pay the money and get what you like ,I love the new aircraft in ayla and I think it is close to the AB 340 with glass cockpit I am surprised by the hunger they have and the management there .and the friendly climate they have I never feel sorry to be in that academy trust me in this matter .
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time to speak
Ive been watching this thread with interest for a while now and what is clear is that the Ayla students are completely missing the point in places
YES you perceive that your education is good up till now but I'll educate you in the harsh realities of the FTO world.
1. Expat instructors do not like being messed around with they are in the business for many reasons, but the single guys will walk out if they feel, rightly or wrongly, that they are in an unstable environment, the ones with families may take longer to walk, but walk they will given time.
2. Once ex pats start walking away from a company in the FTO game, others start questioning if they should work for that company...its a small world boys and we hear things on the jungle telegraph. A question.. would any of YOU work 3000 miles from home if you thought you were not safe in your job? or would you cover your backs and find alternate employment?
3. Sacking a well liked member of staff (CGI) for defending his guys, after what was a bloody appalling stitch up by certain other (dubiously qualified) members of staff, WILL have consequences.. you throw a rock into a pond, wait for the waves to come back to you.. it wont be today or tomorrow, but the wave will hit you.. theres an old maxim in the game.. if you lose one instructor, expect to lose at least one more shortly after (or 3, or 4 ?).
4. Bringing in a manager to firefight may work, or it may create suspicion about motives, he wont get feed back from the guys because feedback lost the CGI his post and trust in management followed him out. Expats believe in LOYALTY, to their students yes, but mainly to each other.
I wish you all luck because recruiting may be a problem, lets see how it is in 6 months time and then comment.
YES you perceive that your education is good up till now but I'll educate you in the harsh realities of the FTO world.
1. Expat instructors do not like being messed around with they are in the business for many reasons, but the single guys will walk out if they feel, rightly or wrongly, that they are in an unstable environment, the ones with families may take longer to walk, but walk they will given time.
2. Once ex pats start walking away from a company in the FTO game, others start questioning if they should work for that company...its a small world boys and we hear things on the jungle telegraph. A question.. would any of YOU work 3000 miles from home if you thought you were not safe in your job? or would you cover your backs and find alternate employment?
3. Sacking a well liked member of staff (CGI) for defending his guys, after what was a bloody appalling stitch up by certain other (dubiously qualified) members of staff, WILL have consequences.. you throw a rock into a pond, wait for the waves to come back to you.. it wont be today or tomorrow, but the wave will hit you.. theres an old maxim in the game.. if you lose one instructor, expect to lose at least one more shortly after (or 3, or 4 ?).
4. Bringing in a manager to firefight may work, or it may create suspicion about motives, he wont get feed back from the guys because feedback lost the CGI his post and trust in management followed him out. Expats believe in LOYALTY, to their students yes, but mainly to each other.
I wish you all luck because recruiting may be a problem, lets see how it is in 6 months time and then comment.
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Zone - Thank you for your comment. You do clearly have a point when it comes to employees and ex employees. Nevertheless, it is only "human" to have anger towards the organization that dismissed him/her which most people are impulsive towards it and cannot handle it and speak out from a sane prospective, excuse me for saying that.
Goneast - There are a couple of sides from the story and one lacks the most when it comes to any sort of conversation or debate in that matter which would be this issue, that would be the truth. I really cannot speak when it comes to the instructors and no one else for that matter. I would love to see a current instructor give out his thoughts about Ayla and how does he feel about staying in the city of Aqaba.
AylaVoice - It seems that you posses great hatred towards Ayla for some reason. Regarding the instructors, you may be a student or an employee. There are always 3 sides of the story, your side, my side and the truth. You can't really take on 2 sides of the story and just bias on one side. You sincerely need to keep a much more wider box into the whole matter when diagnosing the matter.
A simple example, a car doesn't grip properly and skids most of the time..What would be your immediate guess?? Tyres are screwed, no..It could be the suspension work or the cambers not adjusted properly and a whole lot more. Just an off the line example.
Gossip is the human's worst enemy, take it from a much more reliable source instead of taking it on from students only. Students complain and make the whole matter into a much more bigger proportion. I know that for a fact because I was a high school student and we like to mess around with the management just for the "kick" of it or from the "anger" of it. I'm pretty sure 99.8% of all pprune.com members used to do that. Some people grow older from those sort of habits but some people still stick to their same old habits.
I can know for a fact that the instructors over here are feeling comfortable due to what they're saying. The CEO is trying his best to please his students and employees, he has a vision of perfection and when he sees something below average, he will work hard to change that even if it requires the hardest way of fixation which would be firing. Owning an academy is not easy to get around with, it demands mental stability. Regarding the 9mill short of cash, everything goes out of it.
I know that for a fact because I am in the automotive/racing industry. Teams lose double that price but they still keep on running and they get more cash at the end of the day. It is a difficult field to be a race driver, harder than being a pilot. It demands double if not triple the amount of being a pilot but even with that amount of losses, everything goes on well.
To sum it up, money comes and goes depending on your status and where you are going to but since everyone has hatred towards this academy for some reason which would most likely be hatred. Nothing will go on well. To speak generally, it is sometimes hard for homo sapiens to speak good of something but it is much easier to demolish something by talking trash about it.
Once again, everything in this whole entire world has its ups and downs. If the ex-pats over here are not feeling comfortable, they have the right to resign but we still have a lot of ex-pats working.
If you sincerely would like to have an actual proper debate about the whole matter, don't be mysterious because it is basically useless. It is sort of a "I know what you did last summer" thing.
Debating is healthy.
Goneast - There are a couple of sides from the story and one lacks the most when it comes to any sort of conversation or debate in that matter which would be this issue, that would be the truth. I really cannot speak when it comes to the instructors and no one else for that matter. I would love to see a current instructor give out his thoughts about Ayla and how does he feel about staying in the city of Aqaba.
AylaVoice - It seems that you posses great hatred towards Ayla for some reason. Regarding the instructors, you may be a student or an employee. There are always 3 sides of the story, your side, my side and the truth. You can't really take on 2 sides of the story and just bias on one side. You sincerely need to keep a much more wider box into the whole matter when diagnosing the matter.
A simple example, a car doesn't grip properly and skids most of the time..What would be your immediate guess?? Tyres are screwed, no..It could be the suspension work or the cambers not adjusted properly and a whole lot more. Just an off the line example.
Gossip is the human's worst enemy, take it from a much more reliable source instead of taking it on from students only. Students complain and make the whole matter into a much more bigger proportion. I know that for a fact because I was a high school student and we like to mess around with the management just for the "kick" of it or from the "anger" of it. I'm pretty sure 99.8% of all pprune.com members used to do that. Some people grow older from those sort of habits but some people still stick to their same old habits.
I can know for a fact that the instructors over here are feeling comfortable due to what they're saying. The CEO is trying his best to please his students and employees, he has a vision of perfection and when he sees something below average, he will work hard to change that even if it requires the hardest way of fixation which would be firing. Owning an academy is not easy to get around with, it demands mental stability. Regarding the 9mill short of cash, everything goes out of it.
I know that for a fact because I am in the automotive/racing industry. Teams lose double that price but they still keep on running and they get more cash at the end of the day. It is a difficult field to be a race driver, harder than being a pilot. It demands double if not triple the amount of being a pilot but even with that amount of losses, everything goes on well.
To sum it up, money comes and goes depending on your status and where you are going to but since everyone has hatred towards this academy for some reason which would most likely be hatred. Nothing will go on well. To speak generally, it is sometimes hard for homo sapiens to speak good of something but it is much easier to demolish something by talking trash about it.
Once again, everything in this whole entire world has its ups and downs. If the ex-pats over here are not feeling comfortable, they have the right to resign but we still have a lot of ex-pats working.
If you sincerely would like to have an actual proper debate about the whole matter, don't be mysterious because it is basically useless. It is sort of a "I know what you did last summer" thing.
Debating is healthy.
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Just a couple of points:
Me Aviatior:
You compare Ayla to the two academies in Amman, you are not exactly comparing it to the Gold Standard there!
I would suggest your post raises more questions about the effectiveness of the Jordanian authority CARC, formally the JCAA (Sellafield to Windscale? for the brits) and the quality of the Licences it issues. Believe me no one out of Jordan will jump up and down with glee when you present them with a licence from Jordan!
Striker:
You assume wrongly I was terminated from Ayla.
Me Aviatior:
You compare Ayla to the two academies in Amman, you are not exactly comparing it to the Gold Standard there!
I would suggest your post raises more questions about the effectiveness of the Jordanian authority CARC, formally the JCAA (Sellafield to Windscale? for the brits) and the quality of the Licences it issues. Believe me no one out of Jordan will jump up and down with glee when you present them with a licence from Jordan!
Striker:
You assume wrongly I was terminated from Ayla.
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Striker,You also assume that current instructors are not posting on here! What to they say about assumptions?
Also there are several ways of terminating someones employment and the sneaky way is to move them to a job that makes their situation untenable. Done twice to my knowledge in last few months.. oh and there are no tea bags in the coffee bar, big brother is watching
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