Gulf Air Cadet program
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Abinitios, Cadets, same hours and experience, effectively the same in every way. Someone has taken advantage of this minor loophole. Some people excel at finding loopholes!
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The "indian" as you all so eloquently put it, also himself served in the demanding environment of the AUH MCO, as well as MCT "ops" and did so very effectively I might add..and as far as Aero's comments go, if you are in the trng dept, you have the ability to make a positive contribution toward rectifying the problem you percieve exists..if not, as a Capt. you also have recourse through confidential reports etc...etc...if there are weaknesses I'm sure the appropriate managers would like to see some documented evidence, so it can be acted upon..as safety is always at the forefront here at GF..bad-mouthing the situation on Pprune solves nothing now does it???
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I can understand why a few of you are frustrated with GF, however seing comments about someone's nationality making them unfit to work here is disturbing.
I'm sure (whether 1 or 3 or whatever) of these cadets have lived all if not most of their lives in Bahrain. Their families have been here a long time working and serving in Bahrain. And although maybe their passports don't say "Bahraini" they consider this their home.
It's sad to see that in a country and company with so many nationalities working together, there is still such closemindedness.
Cheers.
I'm sure (whether 1 or 3 or whatever) of these cadets have lived all if not most of their lives in Bahrain. Their families have been here a long time working and serving in Bahrain. And although maybe their passports don't say "Bahraini" they consider this their home.
It's sad to see that in a country and company with so many nationalities working together, there is still such closemindedness.
Cheers.
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The oppurtuinty should not be over bahrainis,there is a lot of bahraini license holder not getting a chance to work in the field they dreamed of, which i think they should have the priority over this indian because simply they don't have anywhere else to work if they don't have the experience, and this indian can get a job in india, the airline industry there is booming,
the issue of raising children and so on, they don't do it for free.
the issue of raising children and so on, they don't do it for free.
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Gentlemen, having a pilot's licence and being a Bahraini does not give you the immediate right to be a Gulf Air pilot. If you have the necessary skills that enable you to get through the selection process, then you most certainly do have the right to be able to prove that you are indeed competent enough to be an airline pilot.
I do believe that any Bahraini that is interested in pursuing a career in avaition should be given priority in the selection process, however those that are not successful should also understand that flying can be a very unforgiving career, if you are unable to meet the standards required then you are better off looking for a job elsewhere. Throughout a pilot's career he or she is required to prove their competence at least twice a year and if you are unable to do this, then no matter who you are, what nationality you are or how much experience you have, then you have to move on.
Secondly, I think you should understand that Gulf Air is going through very difficult times at the moment and yes, the recruitment had taken a back seat for a while, however all indications are that it it is getting back on track. Indeed I heard that they have decided to do their training in Jordan now at a new state of the art flying school where new pilots will be trained to JAR standards, this is a very positive move.
I also think that some of you might want to consider the fact that taking out a large loan to pay for your training also doesn't guarantee that you will become an airline pilot; this is the harsh reality of the aviation world. If you are successful and I am sure most of you will be, then we all look forward to welcoming you as colleagues.
Last but not least one of the non-technical skills required of an airline pilot is tolerance and diversity. Racism in any form is simply not cool, in fact it reflects very badly on one's upbringing.
Another thought for you all, what if Gulf Air were to go out of business...?
From an old and not bold pilot, I wish you guys all the best with your future, however a little thought and patience before you shoot is probably a good idea.
Good luck
I do believe that any Bahraini that is interested in pursuing a career in avaition should be given priority in the selection process, however those that are not successful should also understand that flying can be a very unforgiving career, if you are unable to meet the standards required then you are better off looking for a job elsewhere. Throughout a pilot's career he or she is required to prove their competence at least twice a year and if you are unable to do this, then no matter who you are, what nationality you are or how much experience you have, then you have to move on.
Secondly, I think you should understand that Gulf Air is going through very difficult times at the moment and yes, the recruitment had taken a back seat for a while, however all indications are that it it is getting back on track. Indeed I heard that they have decided to do their training in Jordan now at a new state of the art flying school where new pilots will be trained to JAR standards, this is a very positive move.
I also think that some of you might want to consider the fact that taking out a large loan to pay for your training also doesn't guarantee that you will become an airline pilot; this is the harsh reality of the aviation world. If you are successful and I am sure most of you will be, then we all look forward to welcoming you as colleagues.
Last but not least one of the non-technical skills required of an airline pilot is tolerance and diversity. Racism in any form is simply not cool, in fact it reflects very badly on one's upbringing.
Another thought for you all, what if Gulf Air were to go out of business...?
From an old and not bold pilot, I wish you guys all the best with your future, however a little thought and patience before you shoot is probably a good idea.
Good luck
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This website rocks!! Quick quest?
How long does the application screening process takes place,, I got an email 3 days after i applied for Cadet Pilot, stating: my application is on HOLD or being considered,, Just wondering how long does it take till a get second response or hopefully an invitation for the interview.. Any suggestions on this will be helpful.. thanx in advance.
How long does the application screening process takes place,, I got an email 3 days after i applied for Cadet Pilot, stating: my application is on HOLD or being considered,, Just wondering how long does it take till a get second response or hopefully an invitation for the interview.. Any suggestions on this will be helpful.. thanx in advance.
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hi aviator i have application on hold for abinitio since last year august, but i think there are assesments next week because my cousin has been invited for next week in sheraton but i think there are too many applicants so you might have to wait or keep on checking your email, good luck
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Hi aviator, usually once u apply online u get the automated email and in best cases 2 weeks after the closing date u will recieve an invitation for the first assessment which is the numerical test and the verbal test.. if you pass those then again 2 to 3 weeks later you will be invited for the 2nd assessment which is the interview and some more exams after that its the final decission.. again 2-3 weeks to get a response if u r accepted or not..and yeah sometimes takes longer we got accepted last year and yet we r waiting
cheers
cheers
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Spot on Che Guevara. TZZ and company please grow up boys. Stop this Bahraini against WORLD sh!t
WHAT IS YOUR POINT AS IB ASKED? be profecional and not racist
with your attitude, you wont go very far in life 
after all, its a bahraini company with a bahraini "boared" of directors and a bahraini mentality decition making. What the hell can you do without our Indian brothers? 
P.S "I am NEITHER an Indian nor a Persian"
WHAT IS YOUR POINT AS IB ASKED? be profecional and not racist with your attitude, you wont go very far in life after all, its a bahraini company with a bahraini "boared" of directors and a bahraini mentality decition making. What the hell can you do without our Indian brothers? P.S "I am NEITHER an Indian nor a Persian"
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I am not bahraini or a persian but I do see their point. Jet airways will not by pass any of thier national to accomodate a bahraini, neither BA will ever take a bahraini when there is an english man waiting in line. THIS IS NOT RACISM BUT BASIC PRINCIPLE OF LIFE.
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most of all cadet programs in the world is to give preference to the nationals
British airways
Lufthansa
Delta airlines
Kuwait airways
Emirates
Gulf air (in the past) from the founding countries
AND others i didn't really look at close range
it's not racism nothing wrong with Indians if the got the job right why not but not in the expense of other national who can do the same
if theses Bahrainies guys have applied in the mention above airlines or others with cadet training do u think they can apply !!!!!
British airways
Lufthansa
Delta airlines
Kuwait airways
Emirates
Gulf air (in the past) from the founding countries
AND others i didn't really look at close range
it's not racism nothing wrong with Indians if the got the job right why not but not in the expense of other national who can do the same
if theses Bahrainies guys have applied in the mention above airlines or others with cadet training do u think they can apply !!!!!
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The difference here is the the 3 in Jordan had their training complete and all hold commercial pilots licence. 5 months from now they will be back in NAH, in the sim, and online shortly after.
They are not zero time cadets. Makes a big difference.
They are not zero time cadets. Makes a big difference.
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The difference here is the the 3 in Jordan had their training complete and all hold commercial pilots licence.
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(Big deal!!! We got dozens of them holding CPL yet still serving tea and coffee.)
You are Right, I knew one ex GF Cabin Crew were holding CPL/IR license and still didn’t get the chance to get upgrade to flight dick
He said (thanks to mary kinsella) Disaster of GFA
You are Right, I knew one ex GF Cabin Crew were holding CPL/IR license and still didn’t get the chance to get upgrade to flight dick
He said (thanks to mary kinsella) Disaster of GFA
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opinion..
As a Bahraini I applaud seeing foreign expertise, and appreciate all the hard working Ex Pat's and the different experience and mentality they bring to the table. But on the other hand i do agree with THRCLB as he does pose a valid point with the while Cadet pilot/ Abinitio program is USUALLY for locals as done by the list of other airlines he's mentioned.
Its tough to say who deserves to go on course or not as it really does have to do with going through the assessment process and what not. And gentlemen, please stop this racist attitude and start thinking of whats best for this airline and let these professionals do their job picking who is most qualified .
Cheers
Its tough to say who deserves to go on course or not as it really does have to do with going through the assessment process and what not. And gentlemen, please stop this racist attitude and start thinking of whats best for this airline and let these professionals do their job picking who is most qualified .
Cheers
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If that post was actually written by a 22year old Bahraini then the future is indeed getting better.
Pity things had to get so very bad and the better talent at GF has departed before his statement.
Pity things had to get so very bad and the better talent at GF has departed before his statement.