Gulf Air Massalama List.

[REACH-69]

Etihad holding another assesment on the 20th................here you go ,another chance for the canadians and africans who didn't make it last time.....good luck and welcome to EY

[obsidian]

and since ey is getting 12 A320 from airbus after a slot swap..expect more a320 boys to leave..they will reduce their requirements as well deliveries start 2008 jan..training a320 manager is R.T.(gf)....by the end of 2008 ccq 320/330 and a soon expected payrise! to counter gfs supposedly new package! bn and the board please take your time makin your minds up

[NO FD NO SRS]

New package

I would like to take this opportunity to thank whole Gulf Air Massalama List. Guys with out your resignations this new package would not have been possible.

[Sal-e]

Not too soon mate. A lot will be withdrawing their resignations with the new deal which is within their right.

[Bombay HF]

The money is better for those staying but the problems concerning job security and career progression still exist. I doubt if anybody on the list who has a genuine offer from the likes of EY etc will withdraw their resignations.

[CI100]

Money is not everything guys.

You should look at 10 years down your treasured, valued life and see which one is better for you and your family. Don’t cheat yourself and look deep within yourself and see where you are going to be SINCERELY happy. Where you are going to be in 10 years from now. if you truly believe that Gulf Air will give you the life and status of what EK, EY, etc gives you then by all means stay.

As for me I am off to Emirates.

I will not sell my family's future and security plus my joy of flying (which I don't have with Gulf Air network) for few extra money in which I will be getting the same and more anyways at Emirates.

Massalama....!

[NO FD NO SRS]

With this package I will retire after 10 years.

[Stratosphere6000]

Well said CI100...If you're around for maybe upto 5years and you're probably in the left seat then yes, very good to stay. For young F/O's who are going to be around for 5+ years, well a lot of thinking to do. GF has no long term vision. The other carriers are competing in a total different league. Plus lets not all be naive. What GF did is very good as they put their money where their mouth is. These 3 carriers will soon review their packages as they expand more aggressively and they find it hard to crew the jets. Don't expect them to sit and watch in the background.

[Ibn Kalb]

so what is the package

roll up roll up

so for those of us who dont work at GF and have had to put up with all your whining, what is the package -- just give me a range including all benefits in BD?

[tbaylx]

An F/O should bring home 3000BD/month now including perdiems, excluding housing allowance.

That's awfully close to double what i was seeing in January. It's a welcome change and great for the guys that are staying.

As for me, while the money is actually better than EK and on par with EY now, i won't withdraw my resignation for that. As previously stated, i want an airline i can stay the next 15-20 years at with decent career progression and i'm sure the other carriers will be reviewing their packages quite regularily as well.

[a400]

Suggestion to GF management

Suggestion to GF management

All pilots who cancel their resignation should be placed at a weary bottom of seniority list for upgrade or fleet transfer.
Just as appreciation to pilots who stick with GF at bed times.
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']This move would be nice[/FONT]

[skywaytoheaven]

That is ridiculous, who could have blamed anyone for resigning? I only stuck with it due to the bond. We should thank the guys who resigned, without them this package would not have happened.

[a400]

Well GF has long history of people resigning and then coming back on same position or better.
Since we do not have union to protect us from thous exhibitionists than management should introduce such rule, as any were in civilized world.
Once you leave queue, you go to the bottom.
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Either you are in or out no second chance[/FONT]

[tbaylx]

Well technically if you've resigned and haven't left yet (ie in your 3 month notice period) you haven't really left the company. In any union environment you'd maintain exactly whatever position you had before.

Now if you've actually left the company for a period of time, then that's a different story. Don't forget though you wouldn't have got this package without all those guys resigning in the first place.

[Mach084]

a400 you display the maturity and intellect of a garden sprout. Grow up my boy

[Sal-e]

CI100,
when I joined GF last year, it wasn't all about the money which I thought was still okay at the time and I was happy.
Since then, they've had two increments, the 200BD one and now the significantly larger one announced yesterday. How much happier do you think I am now?
I never planned on staying with GF for 10 years. I made up my mind before I joined that it would be a minimum of around 3 years, in line with the then bond period. That hadn't changed either.
As far as family and lifestyle is concerned, I had factored all that in BEFORE I made the move here. Every pilot should experience an ME airline.
As far as the money is concerned, a dinar more than my joining pay would've been fine. All else had been a welcome and surprising bonus.
Am I sincerely happy? Being a small town boy, I certainly am in the little island kingdom.

[salahabuali]

Exception to the rule of course is if you are gay or a crook then you jump the queue...

Applications are available at Wendy's for those that are interested.

Bring your vaseline with you

[a400]

Mach 84 thous are your words :

Mach084 added to the GF masalama list.
After many many years in GF it's time to move on, I have made some great friends and have had a good career (while it lasted). In all honesty I am sad to see this airline to which I gave the vast majority of my adult life in such a state. I wish GF and all it's employees good luck in future.

I beg to differ, GF is not getting killed, GF is killing it's self. Whatever predicament GF is in is all self inflicted. A result of years of corruption, incompetence and right old abuse.

Mach084 Captain on A330/A340 departing to EY, already submitted resignation


I hope that your bags are packed and one way ticket bought.
I dont understand why are you fightning my idea, are you after all planing to stay in GF. Didn't seames to me that fue Dinars can bought your arse. You and people as you are reason for my proposal but GF alwais can refuse to take you back.

Good luck mate

[NTM]

a400,
Instead of talking trash, you should thank the Massalama list.
They got you what you have today.

Later,

[a400]

Well my friend if you are long enough in industry than you should know that this is repetitive scenario in many companies.
Nothing new.
No hard feelings.