Current Gulf Air issues (threads merged)
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Sorry boys, but I fail to understand what the old management (heads) etc...is still doing here, when Ad is looking for corruption?
It was not the crew that signed the contracts! So what are the ozzies still doing at GF....
Saw blondie off, but should it stop there?
It was not the crew that signed the contracts! So what are the ozzies still doing at GF....
Saw blondie off, but should it stop there?
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nice one ironbus,
check this guys
http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehi...aspx?NEWS_ID=8
this is new, looks like no need to sack any cabin crew after all.
check this guys
http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehi...aspx?NEWS_ID=8
this is new, looks like no need to sack any cabin crew after all.
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There are lots of people welling to work for Gulfair if you are not one then don’t criticise.
Middle east is in a unstable situation currently alba, babco, local banks and gulf air etc Have the same problem so we have to wait and see for the best.
Tourism industry is expanding in Bahrain keep are fingers crossed.
lol
Middle east is in a unstable situation currently alba, babco, local banks and gulf air etc Have the same problem so we have to wait and see for the best.
Tourism industry is expanding in Bahrain keep are fingers crossed.
lol
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yes I bet 119! just make sure they are working out of Gulf Air and not BJ's....for your brethern.
Tourism maybe expanding, but at this rate Bahrain and Gf will be synonymous with patpong...
The day you take it seriously, maybe others will!
Tourism maybe expanding, but at this rate Bahrain and Gf will be synonymous with patpong...
The day you take it seriously, maybe others will!
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pilots get Married
GDN NEWS Bachelors will not be allowed to live in reidential Area.
of course Bahrain moving forward Toruism Rising.
Solution GF will provide bachelors pilots a Hangar in BahInt Airport.No rent to pay just sby .
Solution 2.Pilots get married to Cabin Crew.You can live in residential areas and Cabin crew will be HappY ever after .and no need to go for the EY interview at Movenpik..
of course Bahrain moving forward Toruism Rising.
Solution GF will provide bachelors pilots a Hangar in BahInt Airport.No rent to pay just sby .
Solution 2.Pilots get married to Cabin Crew.You can live in residential areas and Cabin crew will be HappY ever after .and no need to go for the EY interview at Movenpik..
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By saying that if AD doesn't change his strategy towards the pilots ,he'll end up with no one flying his birds ,excuse me if you are regarding to the locals than i'll agree but the expats no way. I just recieved a call from a 76 pilot and 99% of the pilots that applied for the A320 courses are expats ,whom one day said that if the company decides to phase out the 76 we are not staying.......this goes to all the guys that post stuff that they can't stick to and please stop back st***ing.......P.S. First course A320 doesn't even have senior guys.....It has Mr.Ib and his buddy J.Scott.L........Cheers 
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Tides change. Lets just hope our beloved carrier is not begging ppl to stay come a few months down the road and ppl's options start materialising. The 767 guys have been caught off guard. Wont be long before they get themselves in order and go on the offensive. The way the aviation industry is booming today and when you're not the biggest player in the market, I would think very carefully about how I treat my crew since similar positions are in abundance with much, much, much better conditions. Flt Deck & Cabin crew are not GOD's but they're the hottest property in demand at the moment. Just look at the EY recruitment page. Then again there's always the BAN.............
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There is no more ban....ended a week ago....folks are free now to pursue what suits them...
Reach69...when have I posted something I didnt stick to???
Reach69...when have I posted something I didnt stick to???
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99% of the pilots that applied for the A320 courses are expats
Well Reach-69, it's easy to critize us but really hope you don't have to face the situation that we are facing now, thousand of miles away from home, taken by surprise with the decision of phasing out the 767's and with this "take the A-320 option or get the f*&%.k out of here", with bank loans, kids in school,etc. Evidently, in your case, can even consider to quit GF, stay in the area (home) and start looking for another option like EK, EY, QR, etc. In our case, it'd be way more difficult since our visas are dependant on this GF contract so no GF no visa, thus, get the f*&%$..k out of the middle east. Applying for this A-320 is the only thing we can do now and again, the situation is take it or leave it. What would you do in our cases? Keep you pride and quit? I seriously doubt it mate.
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Yes ban is over...but you think they cannot impose one just as easily as they did in the past?surely if they see too many guys jumping ship they will talk to the habibi's across the road and impose a ban again...Thats what i meant SPIRIT HONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secondly desert storm i know it must be tough on you guys...but you all didn't even put up a fight..u raised the white flag before the battle..my only conclusion is that most of you have no where better to go..accepting 320 is ok but signing a US$60000 bond without even questioning anything when EK offering wide body for US$36000 is madness....Do u guys just accept everything at face value?
Secondly desert storm i know it must be tough on you guys...but you all didn't even put up a fight..u raised the white flag before the battle..my only conclusion is that most of you have no where better to go..accepting 320 is ok but signing a US$60000 bond without even questioning anything when EK offering wide body for US$36000 is madness....Do u guys just accept everything at face value?
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Strats...the bond issue is never ideal, some will find it unacceptable and leave..GF have too many pilots at present, and some will leave, others find themselves in the position of making the "lesser of two evils" choice...once numbers all align, you might see a change in the situation here at GF...so the choice is to commit for three years, remain on present fleet, or shop elsewhere...
desert storm..wouldn't look at it as losing face or your pride..look at it as a FORDEC exercise..the facts have changed, so the options have as well...so inevitably the decision may have to be reviewed as well
desert storm..wouldn't look at it as losing face or your pride..look at it as a FORDEC exercise..the facts have changed, so the options have as well...so inevitably the decision may have to be reviewed as well
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100% Pax
Rest assured I am a GF pax people (70% F 30% J). I can recite the safety video (in Arabic or English) off by heart and am lifetime Gold.
My observations come from sitting and observing, talking and meeting many people from the Pink Palace during my transits or business visits in/to BAH.
Let alone the many 'd and m's' I've had with your cabin managers(female of course) the males ehemm, read LOCALS, where never to be seen or disinterested at best or too busy announcing on the PA that "we were leaving planet earth" further consolidating GF's unprofessional side.
I liked GF F first because it was cheaper than J on most other carriers. The service up front was fantastic 95% of the time. I had only to contend with a cabin of 8 pax and TWO lavs! The food was always immaculate. I did miss a few necessary amenities and a more modern IFE, however, but I got what I paid for - a VERY comfy bed I could sleep in. I also enjoyed the very human BAH airport..transits and lounges and not having to step over people to get to my plane..read DXB city zoo. GF's 30-40 min transits and my bags never once got lost. Well done BAH airport services
I average 15 sectors in a 3 week period when I fly to GCC for business. GF's schedules are unmatched. I fly mostly ultra long haul from SYD(which is soon to be no longer) and to LHR and CDG.
All GF needed to do was have decent IFE and consistant good quality cabins and the likes of EK EY or QR really had nothing on GF.
I also enjoyed BAH as a city, very relaxed traffic, tolerable and it's population who IMO are only 2nd to Omani's in terms of friendliness.
A little narrative to get a loyal pax perspective.
Oddy
PS If anyone from GF management ever needs a pax perspective for future developments..let me at it - more than happy to constructively assist!
My observations come from sitting and observing, talking and meeting many people from the Pink Palace during my transits or business visits in/to BAH.
Let alone the many 'd and m's' I've had with your cabin managers(female of course) the males ehemm, read LOCALS, where never to be seen or disinterested at best or too busy announcing on the PA that "we were leaving planet earth" further consolidating GF's unprofessional side.
I liked GF F first because it was cheaper than J on most other carriers. The service up front was fantastic 95% of the time. I had only to contend with a cabin of 8 pax and TWO lavs! The food was always immaculate. I did miss a few necessary amenities and a more modern IFE, however, but I got what I paid for - a VERY comfy bed I could sleep in. I also enjoyed the very human BAH airport..transits and lounges and not having to step over people to get to my plane..read DXB city zoo. GF's 30-40 min transits and my bags never once got lost. Well done BAH airport services
I average 15 sectors in a 3 week period when I fly to GCC for business. GF's schedules are unmatched. I fly mostly ultra long haul from SYD(which is soon to be no longer) and to LHR and CDG.
All GF needed to do was have decent IFE and consistant good quality cabins and the likes of EK EY or QR really had nothing on GF.
I also enjoyed BAH as a city, very relaxed traffic, tolerable and it's population who IMO are only 2nd to Omani's in terms of friendliness.
A little narrative to get a loyal pax perspective.
Oddy
PS If anyone from GF management ever needs a pax perspective for future developments..let me at it - more than happy to constructively assist!
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Thanks for that ODDY...think it will get even better and as for the "leaving planet earth" PA...yup been there heard that...think that bloke has been gone from planet earth himself for quite some time...but he is good with the crews though
and as for the "leaving planet earth" PA...yup been there heard that...think that bloke has been gone from planet earth himself for quite some time...but he is good with the crews though
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Stratosphere6K, then GF would have to have bans imposed on them from God knows how many different carriers, not only in the region.
Like you, I also plan for worst-case scenarios, but if GF would even try to take a step, like the above mentioned, they would loose all credibility.
Okay, GF does not exactly have a solid reputation to them for making sound decisions, but to do something like this, would make a lot of guys (myself included) prefer jumping ship, and instead applying for a job as a schoolbusdriver in downtown Cairo...or Basra.
I might even get away with only signing a 12000 BD trainingbond over 3 years, to drive kids to and from school morning and evening...
Like you, I also plan for worst-case scenarios, but if GF would even try to take a step, like the above mentioned, they would loose all credibility.
Okay, GF does not exactly have a solid reputation to them for making sound decisions, but to do something like this, would make a lot of guys (myself included) prefer jumping ship, and instead applying for a job as a schoolbusdriver in downtown Cairo...or Basra.
I might even get away with only signing a 12000 BD trainingbond over 3 years, to drive kids to and from school morning and evening...
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Clamp on concessional tickets
GULF Air yesterday announced it was scrapping or drastically reducing free
ticket and discount travel available "to certain parties".
In future, this rebated ticket facility will only be extended to Gulf Air's
direct employees, current board members and parties covered under IATA and
the airline's commercial obligations, it said.
"All other parties which are currently benefiting from this facility will no
longer be given any free of charge or concessional tickets in the future,"
said the airline.
"Gulf Air's past free and reduced fare policy has been substantially
revamped to ensure a better control and monitoring system is in place.
"Accordingly, a new ticket concession policy and procedure has been
presented and approved by the board of directors."
The news follows an announcement earlier this month that the airline was
making massive cutbacks as a result of huge financial losses
GULF Air yesterday announced it was scrapping or drastically reducing free
ticket and discount travel available "to certain parties".
In future, this rebated ticket facility will only be extended to Gulf Air's
direct employees, current board members and parties covered under IATA and
the airline's commercial obligations, it said.
"All other parties which are currently benefiting from this facility will no
longer be given any free of charge or concessional tickets in the future,"
said the airline.
"Gulf Air's past free and reduced fare policy has been substantially
revamped to ensure a better control and monitoring system is in place.
"Accordingly, a new ticket concession policy and procedure has been
presented and approved by the board of directors."
The news follows an announcement earlier this month that the airline was
making massive cutbacks as a result of huge financial losses
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upgrade time for GF F/O
Looks like time to upgrate will be much longer than expected!!!!
,specially with the first group of capt's 767 transfered to A320 ,second group will be in 2008 
CIAO SEE YOU IN ARABIA OR EY
,specially with the first group of capt's 767 transfered to A320 ,second group will be in 2008 CIAO SEE YOU IN ARABIA OR EY
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I wonder if GF will be in the unique position of being an airline that in a six month period went from being short of crew, to having 80 too many to once again being so short that they can't crew flights
I think the fact that other airlines are coming to Bahrain to recruit may convince those sitting on the fence that now is a good time to leave. ATH down to three a week with no onwards connection to SYD, how long before that sector gets the chop?
I think the fact that other airlines are coming to Bahrain to recruit may convince those sitting on the fence that now is a good time to leave. ATH down to three a week with no onwards connection to SYD, how long before that sector gets the chop?