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Old 16th Apr 2007, 05:16
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Is the ban lifted ,cause i just heard an ex-76 GF pilot has joined EY recently and he is hired on the 330 right seat (don't know if this info is valid)
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 05:23
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They are phacing of 767.But next order not yet confirmed
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 05:50
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Reach,
the ban is not lifted as per now. The guy you are refering to had given his resignation before ....and then eventualy got hired with a release letter...!
Anyway it also came to me that EY is not taking anyone on 77 at the moment...Got to apply on the bus I guess..And that's only when the pressure on JH to lift the ban will produce its effect..
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 07:53
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If GF pilots are to be made redundant, the only decent thing would be to lift the ban with EY. Good for both companies.

AD dissmissed a huge amount of pilots from SWISS some time ago and today they have grounded planes due to lack of crews. Go figure....

It's still to early to make any conclusions. This is like a chess game where your oponent moves 1 piece and you cannot judge his game yet. The only thing with GF is that the Rooks, the Knights and the Quenn have been moved before the Pawns!

LNB
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 18:45
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767 DECs

Just for curiosity...

Less than 1 year ago GF hired DECs for 767. The excuse for bad planning was, as usual, that they couldnt upgrade cause they were short of FO to crew the planes, BUT IT WAS ONLY FOR 1 YEAR CONTRACT. Speaking with one of then, he told me his contract is not for one year but open as everybody else. Now I am very curious to see what will happen to then since they are not type rated in the 320/330/340 unlike many experience FOs that they have bypassed once. Will they bypass us again?
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 20:47
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Snoop

The workers are worrying about their future whilst the leaders (some ex) are trying to get into EY under the radar....beware guys...
VPO & Flt Mgrs looking for a backdoor into EY....
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 04:16
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EY

I wrote this some days ago.
VPO facing a problem of going to ey becasue of ban he did himself.
Shortly will be removed cause he is Going.
No managment post offered to any from Gf.maximimu TRI.
this will open doors for guys who want to go ban will be lifted.
Prob for 767 guys.They only need bus drivers hehe..
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 04:22
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EU

The new CEO is going inline with european business,
Same with Swiss downsize send people away(including Pilots) forget payrise,reduce service(skychefs,nannies) reduce routes and make profit.
This will never work here.
The airlines in middle east fly everywhere to get as much passengers in transit to the far east australia and so on.
Gf will not make profit from passengers visiting bahrain..(3 star 4 star hotels no entertainment no alcohol).look at all others they started a hub system Dubai Qatar .than improved their country for visitiors and business.
Bahrain wake up.Move forward dont make too much steps backward.
Might fall..!!
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 04:28
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The airlines in middle east fly everywhere to get as much passengers in transit to the far east australia and so on.
This is were GF is not making a profit.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 05:47
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Question Get yr facts right!

BAH DOES have 5 star hotels
BAH DOES allow alcohol
BAH is investing in development
BAH is one of the friendliest of all GCC cities
BAH is one of the nicest GCC cities to live in

Bus787 where do you get your information from both on Gulf Air and what will happen and Bahrain- I would strongly suggest you revisit your source/s

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Old 17th Apr 2007, 07:01
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Thumbs down

ODMEA, I think that what Bus 787 is getting at, is maybe that there are 'NO' 3 or 4 star hotels in Bahrain that will have Live Entertainment or Alcohol shortly!!! After all, your average tourist does not stay in a 5 star hotel, unless you are referring to your average tourists as F1 drivers. As a frequent visitor from Over the Bridge, the new government in Bahrain do tend to be doing their utmost to turn it into a place that is not very friendly towards Ex-Pats
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 07:56
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ODMEA; the problem is that you are taking this comments as a personal offence but reality shows that Bahrain lacks of a lot of the above mentioned. No doubt you are a local guy but i'll try to show you the expat point of view in order to help you visualize the real situation in Bahrain:
As an expat, if i look for a possible destination for a holiday, I'm pretty sure Bahrain wouldn't be in my plans since there is absolutely NOTHING to see or do here: No real resorts and I don't mean the 5 star hotel that you have in here loaded with fat guys, smoking sheesha watching a bunch of Eastern Europe hookers dance half naked but real resorts like the ones we have in Europe or America, with activities and attractions for the whole family 24/7.
About where to go in the city (Bahrain), well my friend, the options are very few: BJ's, JJ's, Wranglers and lately Z club; Shame S*+&..t, different places (the difference is that BJ's and JJ's are loaded with drunk american navy guys trying to score and Likwid and Club 7 loaded with local with the same intentions).
About city tourism, well, don't think anyone is going to pay any money to come here and see the Pearl Roundabout, Seef Mall and the Tree of life!!!!!!
C'mon ODMEA, all you local guys have to face that this place is just a small island with nothing to offer for the tourist man.
To top this up, do you realize that there are only 22 countries in the world that can get the tourist visa at the airport????? The other countries have to apply for a business visa but through a hotel, and not always this is possible because many times, this hotels get very difficult (don't forget that the only embassy that Bahrain has is located in Washington D.C so believe me that nobody is going to go there in order to get a visa for a place that has nothing to offer).
Well, i'm pretty sure that i am forgeting a lot of reasons for not coming here but i'm aware that you'll start throwing arrows against me, then, i'll have the chance to give you more examples of this. Cheers mate!

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Old 17th Apr 2007, 08:21
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Danger

I was offered the A-320 conversion course to be started last sunday. Went to fleet office to find out, talked for a few minutes with the coordinator and havenīt heard anything ever since. Any of you guys have any information about this course? Did it started? who were the "two lucky F/O" who started this conversion?. Cheers!
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 08:39
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Well, I've experienced this situation b4 and based on that, and only on that, can tell you that this is a normal cicle in every company. My previous one, downsized on 2004 and now, they order 10 B-787's, opened new routes to Europe, already brought new F-100 and some extra MD-83, and B-767 to complement the actual route structure. Totally agree that we can't let complacency to overtake us but let's give Mr. AD a chance (let's say 100 days, the famous 100 days) to see what happens ok? Then, after this time period, we can start taking conclusions and maybe, start applying for other companies; meanwhile, strongly suggest to keep a very, very low profile just in case mate.
Tail wind on CRZ!
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 08:56
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Danger CGK

By the way, wondering how many will miss so much CGK and the famous massages of the Ciputra Hotel (well, some got nice massages outside the hotel as well).
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 09:24
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Not only immaculate but the quality of the service is amazing. On top of that, it's a lot cheaper for us to go to europe with QR rather than GF "our own company". This is unbelievable. MAD-DOH-BAH-DOH-MAD for 44 bd (taxes inclusive). With GF BAH-LHR around 70 bd (roung trip ID-90 SA). How's that????????
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 09:30
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The "fat lady" has entered the stage!
Check your webmails.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 09:38
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Exclamation

Just checked it. Nothing new (last e-mail from 14/03/2007). Can you tell us what you've seen? Cheers mate!
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 09:46
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It's a press release that is going out today. Nothing earth shattering. Lots of cuts in long haul routes (Dublin, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Sydney, Joburg etc) to refocus on inter gulf network. Down to 28 aircraft, refit of interiors, 4 A321 joining the fleet, some 340 replacements with 330's, all Boeings going away and lots of staff cutbacks to come (majority they are trying to do through attrition). That's about it, about what is being expected.

That being said it's nice to see it before i read it in the GDN for once, at least Mr. Dose is much better with corporate communication than i've seen prior to him.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 09:59
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Danger

any cutback on 767 pilots?
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