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Old 9th Apr 2007, 10:48
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Loc22550,

just as Popay mentioned before, I havent been able to find anything regarding this anywhere in the law!

Therefore, it could just be a smart intrepratation of the landlord but that does not make it legal.

Which is why he asking for a legal reference.....

In case you are right...what about semi-furnished accomodation?


Just traying to get things right, thats all!
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 13:05
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Popay call that pilot who has helped peope with rent problems before. I think he has helped many pilots already with landlord greed and fighting the system.
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 15:40
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S.G. hey. I did phone up the guy unfortunately he just confirmed that a fully furnished accommodation isn't subject to that particular law. By the way he really did well and won the Court case. Bravo, really cool chap. However I can imagine due to dynamic changes taking place in the legal system (within common law) things do change and who knows maybe there's been a different interpretation already. I can imagine the judge to decide in landlord's favour provided it's new accommodation or if just been refurnished.
However if nothing has been done and NO additional costs were borne I personally don't see a reason to exclude it from the law. Of course it's up to the judge to interpret the particular case. All I'm saying is let's not assume but stick to the law and try to win the case.
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... I personally don't see a reason to exclude it from the law. Of course it's up to the judge to interpret the particular case. All I'm saying is let's not assume but stick to the law and try to win the case.

oh...I pesonally didn't see a reason for the CEO to violate my contract...of course it's up to the judge to interpret the particular case...let's try to win the case...and all the best to all of you who still believe that there is justice for non arabic expats in the Middle East! Salamaleykum!
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 15:40
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Contact Dr. Jaffar 4496901 for helpful strategies. He has been recommended by Flight Operations to assist us for matters relating to tenant-landlord relations. Good luck.
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 17:56
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Thumbs up

filoxym, thanks a lot man. Appreciate your input. I'll try so.
a330flyer, I suggest you don't get too sentimental but just proceed according with your plan. The guy is an expat and he won the case. Again it's not enough to accuse someone without presenting facts. By doing so it's just allegation nothing more. You might be wrong or right without knowing the details I perceive your statement as hot air shaking, sorry mate. Come up with hard facts and I'm sure the audience will be fair.
Cheers.
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 10:50
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How Much Will The S Fo Get !!

So how much will the s f/o get 18000/or 20000 !!

thanks.........
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 18:15
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The Second Officer deal has not been worked out yet.

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Old 13th Apr 2007, 03:27
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nothing new actually...but at least it´s a change compared to the usual local propaganda we can read in our "favorite" daily qatari newspapers...!
For people who might ignore it: there is a human right committee in Doha.... no,no it´s not a joke....
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 03:38
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And why do you think Q.A. is opening sometime new"strange" destination.... just to make the "import" of new slave easier...
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 16:40
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SORRY i want to know how much is the busic for the sinor f/o mor than 5 yers with qr
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 21:08
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Well,

for someone with your writing skills anything they offer you would be too much! I hope you talk English better than the way you write it!

For info...

new FO: 18000
Senior FO with 5 years inside: 22500
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 21:38
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Your first year as a F/O in QR you will receive 18000 basic + 1500 transport allowance ( for about 2 more years until they bring you to work and back to home after work) and the flight pay of 90 per hour + the pay for food at your nightstops.

second year will be 18540
third year will be 19100
and then when you start your fourth year you should be a senior F/O with a basic of 20000.

You will be promoted to senior F/O based on your performance in the company.

If your performance is not good and you remain a F/O ( not a senior F/O)
forth year will be 19670
and fifth year will be 20260.

And for the DEC pilots it will be the same transport allowance and night stop allowances with 120 hour rate of flight pay.

you will join and get 26500 basic
second year will be 27295
third year will be 28115
and fourth year 28960
with fifth year and above capped out at 29830.

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Old 15th Apr 2007, 08:05
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Thumbs down what about overtime

Any changes on overtime payments in the new deal ?
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Old 15th Apr 2007, 13:22
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housing

Qatari515
can u explain me how it works for the housing allowance scheme pls?
I mean, is it that u take the allowance and look for the house u want(furnished/unfurnished) or no allowance and u get a standard house from the company ?
tks for your time.

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Old 15th Apr 2007, 14:42
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Very interesting, this website changes the whole game: http://www.qatarsucks.com/

A person must be truly off to bother creating a hate mail website; thought did cross my mind once, but I am way too lazy. And quite a good one it is. Broad in scope, very factual, something there for everyone on the planet to read. And be sure, eventually nearly everyone will read it.

But when are the Qataris going to see the Big Picture. Not much point being the richest man in the city if you dont have any friends outside your own street.
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Old 15th Apr 2007, 18:15
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Plutos, its rather straight forward.

Option 1


You take the allowance ( 10000QR FO/ 12000QR Capt) and you go and look for your own house. In that case the cie will pay you as well an expense allowance ( dont know how much...must be somewhere around 600QR) for utilities and a furniture allowance ( Now replaced by a one time lumpsum)


Option 2

You take company accomodation ( house for capt/ appartement for FO/ only avail for new joiners now) and you dont get any of the above mentioned allowances as they are all fully furnished.



Hope it helps...


Hajj man.... a senior FO with 5 years company has a basic of 22500QR...
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Old 15th Apr 2007, 19:14
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Talking

Qatari515, hi there.
house for capt/ apartment for FO/ only avail for new joiners now
That's not what the latest crew notice says. Supposedly it's according to the seniority now. Lets see though how it works. Rumors are in the air about some kind of skyscraper in the west bay for pilots being in the tube.
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Old 15th Apr 2007, 19:34
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Does anyone know what the situation is for those who accepted the one off payment of 40,000Qr a few months ago in lieu of the furniture allowance; Do they have to pay that back now under the new sytem or do they get to keep it? Does someone with 5+ in the company (therefore entitled to 25,000Qr under the new contract) have to pay back the 15,000Qr balance or does he get to keep the 40,000 and get another 25,000?

Just to know if I made a stupid mistake in not accepting the 40,000 a few months ago!
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Old 15th Apr 2007, 19:38
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Hi Popay,


you could be right, I have no idea. The info changes here every 5 minutes anyway!

Ill tell you one thing though...No way Ill be accepting an appartment in that 62 stories block of appartements...

Imagine....Living in a pilot Ghetto all together! Just go to Musheirib tomorrow and have a look on how it would be like....

NO WAY!
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