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Old 28th Feb 2007, 15:42
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What does Gulf Air's CEO or Flight Operations VP (?) say about all of this mess?
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 15:55
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Yes what does VPO say about this ?
Havent heard anything from the management about the situation,so f...n typically with this airline no info what so ever.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 16:27
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Typically senior management. No news at all on this, even an internal memo. Surely its only a matter of time before the press get hold of this and GF becomes front-page news in the GCC ?

Doesn't take a genius to work out something is wrong if you see flight after flight showing cancelled at BAH airport.

Just feel sorry for the pax, at the end of the day if it weren't for them we wouldn't be flying anywhere.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 16:41
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Boy the rumour network is really in full swing.

The aircraft are grounded pending an inspection, if the results are negative we could have a few back in the next week.

What is happening is that as the aircraft get rotated up to Dublin where our heavy maintenance is being done by SR Techics, they are discovering a few problems. 3 of the 4 aircraft they've seen up there have had some rather sever corrosion issues. The first aircraft is pretty near finished being repaired sheetmetal wise, it's been there since November. Since they are finding similar corrosion on several of the fleet they've decided in coordination with Boeing to inspect the whole fleet for similar corrosion, and have grounded the fleet of 9 aircraft until teh inspections are carried out.

This will take a bit as it will involve NDT (likely xray/eddycurrent inspections for min thickness etc).

To make matters a bit worse they've found a cracked landing gear on one of the a/c during the C checks as well, so now need to do some swaps.

Anyway the way things work around here it could take a week or a year to sort it out. No news at all from management other than a note from rostering about pending changes to the schedule. In the meantime it'll suck losing the duty pay, but as long as the main paychecks keep coming sit back and enjoy the BBQ weather and cold beers.

Either way they are going to get hurt on this one and its going to cost someone alot of Dinars to sort it out.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 17:15
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it would be nice to see a memo.....i guess the fax machines don't work from pet pong.....swaadi cap boys

gf boys check the gf150 crew on bkk on the 27th........
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 17:25
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Guys, check your AIMS for "Messages from Crewing."

Nothing terribly revealing however it is an official communique from the Company.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 17:29
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That's a message from rostering saying they have no idea what's going on and they are going to try and come up with a new schedule over the next few days..hardly the official communique we were thinking of. It'll be in the GDN tommorow though i suppose i'll read it there.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 17:33
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I will be looking for the GDN also. I guess it will take me 5 minutes to read the "rag" instead of the usual 3.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 17:44
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Guys ,

GF has not got a management , this company works on daily basis,

VPO, HOFO, CP767, ACP767, Other part of this useless management , they even did not bother them selves to write a memo about what is happining and what is the steps that they will take now , the matter is not B767 are grounded but the problem if they fix it for how long will stay in the service because it is a wake up call B767 will not be able to work 24\7 with 55min on GRD because they will fix it but it will not be a new A/C they will not make it new .... mr management want to see someone profissional tell us what will happen ..

i feel bad about this cause B767 pilots were flying unsafe A/C and it will continue . do you guys fel safe .

by the way i heared new SO will start TRG. WAW

guys maybe few A/C be back to service after few weeks or days but i am sure it is not safe 100% to be flown .. let us see this unprofisional management what they will do

i am not insulting management but it is fact, people lifes , pilots who do not know if they will fly safe home or no .... come on
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 18:34
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VPO on block to bangkok ( 50hrs lay over ) with his best friend.+ a poor F/O...and rest resting at home......
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 19:28
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Kind of sad a major carrier is in a situation like this. Shows a complete lack of communication and leadership from within. you wonder if the board will finally realize that the people running the place are needin some serious overhaul..... maybe??? anyways see what happens my bet is overload on the airbus fleets for 3-6 months
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 20:37
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What now, Jackbauer?

Well, definitely sad developments for the company, especially with our VPO (assisted by HOGO) on the run in a 55 hour rest BKK block. Also CPA340 leaving tomorrow night to BKK. As mentioned before, no official communication from OPS, apart from Wyatt Earp`s message in AIMS.
Maybe our colleague Jackbauer, who is always in the know of stuff to come, with a quite optimistic point of view, could shed some light on what`s being planned (if anything) in the Pink Palace.
Safe (Keep an extra eye guys!!!) Flights!!!
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 22:20
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Some pics from DUB, thanks to Mark D.


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Old 28th Feb 2007, 22:41
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Gosh...a plane in a hangar...never seen one of those before!

(Looks very clean though. Are you sure it's GF?)
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 03:23
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Am I the only one who thinks CG11 is a little bit silly?

The 767 fleet is grounded because SR Technic have taken responsible action and grounded the fleet because they have found some potentially serious problems. Further to that their inspections have also shown a cracked undercarriage leg (unreported heavy landing perhaps?) and this is being dealt with.

So why will the a/c be unsafe when they come back on line CG11? It seems to me that SRTechnic have demonstrated they are willing to make difficult calls if they find problems, and not allow themselves to hide bad news under the carpet.

I think it is really disappointing that the senior management are reported on here as taking off to far flung places at a time when their support is needed back in Bahrain, and without even an official communication to their staff it appears.

Safe flying everyone
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 03:28
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bus next??

yes I agree.SR technic finally doing the job Gamco should have been doing.Wy all buses full of ADD and MDD?? cause before for our maintance nothing was worth writing.TEST OK .Please report further.This is all they could write.Engineers onlt tought how to read MEL.dont even try to check the prob.
Seems we are in 4 a SHOCK !! any corroded BUS??
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 03:34
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Gulf Air Taking Initiative

Read GDN.Gulfair taking initiative to ground aircraft due Safety.Should read.GULF AIR instructed to ground aircraft by SR Technics.
Corrosion doesnt casue any immediate threat to safety.How GDN guys and GF managment decided this ??On what basis can u decide corrosion doesnt cause a threat to safety.
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 08:34
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2 to 3 A/C will be back online within 10-14 days ... and 1 maybe with 7 days.. this is what i heared from the Guy in OPS

so, so far newspaper wrote about the 767, but still Management they are still looking for someone who can write a story to make pilots beleive it because in the newspaper people might belive it but pilots in GF will not ....... and so far i did not even se a single memo from B767 office or the management ... why is it sooooooooooooo bad that they even can not tell us what is going on ... i am not sure but this information 2 or more A/C will stop from service because it is unsafe .

now .... i know how GF works ....... all the upgrades, fleet transfar A320 to 330 /340 B767 to 330/340 and other things will freez for few months because the can not plan . CPA340 and MFT340 doing KTM training why they do not send Senior training Capt to do the training and then they operate with other crew not them and then they have to train others , they do not fly much but at this time they are flying why and i do not know if VPO and HOGO and one FO are flying to BKK ,
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 08:47
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What is the plan for the B767 and one proffisional capt in this management who is P.M.
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 08:52
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Maybe I should have taken up that offer to move the 340. As much as we complain, when push comes to shove, it doesn't matter what we fly as long as the paychecks keep coming. Been on the streets twice before...... and it ain't a nice place to be.
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