c560xl

Hi Guys,

Any news from the guys went for an interview on 11th Nov.
Any updates, Any gouge

EasyGo-Lucky?

Yeah right! Since when has anyone been promised a Villa with swimming pool? If you are going to state "nothing but the truth" then stick to it.

I agree accommodation is the biggest drawback at Etihad. I can't say for sure whether the company provided accommodation is sufficient or not, it all depends on what each individuals idea of sufficient is. Its certainly below my expectations so I looked elsewhere. You forgot to mention that you can even use your housing allowance to pay off a mortgage which some are already doing.

For anyone interested in EY do ask about accommodation at the interview. Its a problem area but things have been moving admittedly at a slow pace.

Thats my take on nothing but the truth.

cantilever

Well said EGL

I cannot believe anyone was promised a villa wih a swimming pool.
Housing is still a problem but its heading in the right direction...if you come here with unrealistic expectations you will be dissappointed....best stay in your palace at home!.

Certain crew both Flt & Cabin stay in their rooms and eat pot noodles in every airline...its hardly unique to EY!

Regarding the night pyjamas...have the Wee Willy Winkie hats and Superman dressing gowns also gone!!..

expatula

Can you please elaborate what you mean by heading in the right direction? I hope we can be more specific than speak about these things in general terms. So you mean the pilots have their own villas now? I hope this is what you mean...

boeing-man

Does heading right direction mean that they give you a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment and expect your 4 kids to entertain themselves playing/riding the elevator up and down? or is this your own unique problem?

semper fi

Guys, you know what? Before you go jumping off a bridge and find out your bungee isn't tied to your tongue, why don't you ask yourselve's, do I live in a villa where I come from with a swimmig pool and maid and a driver?

I mean really, people who go to EK "mostly" get what is promised to them as far as housing is concerned, the airline has existed for more than 2 decades and there is a good supply of housing in the Dubai area.

Abu Dhabi on the other hand has been slow to get on the real estate band wagon and prices are generally steeper in the capital. This accomodation problem is not unique to EY, other companies also suffer the same predicament. I know many proffesionals who are still waiting for decent housing also.

So before you even think about making the "move" ask yourself?

1. Did I do my homework and reseach enough about the country I plan to live in?
2. Do I live in a villa back home complete with all the bells and whistles I think I should have?

3. Is coming to this company or any other company worth making the move for my pleasure or to invest time and effort into building this company up to the level you think it can achieve?

It's all about realistic goals and expectations, you know there is a housing problem at this point so going there and bitching about it really doesn't do anything for anyone.

Stay home in your 5 bedroom airconditioned villas complete with maid and driver and two car garage. Otherwise come out here with an open mind and expect some hassle till you settle down.

desertwarrior

I hope by now that pilots considering joining Etihad will have built up a better picture about working for the Company, and living in Abu Dhabi, having read through the previous posts on this forum. From my perspective, the airline has enormous potential, and continues to realize that potential daily, note the 37th destination announced recently in just 3 years. Working conditions and renumeration have improved steadily, yes with minor hiccups, but we're moving in the right direction, and are currently under review again for an increase. The issue with housing, as was mentioned earlier, is a continuing issue, but new joiners are getting housing within a reasonable time of joining, and those of us here are steadily moving into company provided apartments. Yes, apartments, don't come here expecting villas unless you're willing to shell out some extra Dirhams, which by the way is your perogative, they are available, but people, what exactly is the problem with that, as far as I know people, including pilots, are known to live in apartments and condos in North America and Europe, except that most of the time they're paying out of their own pockets for that privilege in those places, here we don't. As far as bringing kids here goes, there is lots to do here, scuba diving, skiing both water and snow, ice skating, sailing, fishing, karting, dune bashing, camping to name a few, my kids have not yet had to resort to riding elevators for entertainment. Some of our esteemed collegues need to grow up and stop whinging about pajamas and pot noodles, and see the big picture. And here's the disclaimer, I'm not management, just a line pilot who's happy as hell to be living and working here. Ma Salama

Sir Osis of the river

Semper Fi,

To answer you, yes I came from a nice villa elsewhere with most of the bells and whistles. (No driver) I brought most of them with me and they just plain wont fit into what is on offer. The folks looking at joining now have a clear picture right now and can make an informed decision. However, those of us that joined some time back had no such insight and were "hoodwinked".

Regarding other proffessionals, yes they also struggle to find accom, but at least their companies cough up. The building industry get up to Aed180 000, and lets not mention what our fellow professionals at Royal jet and ATC's get.

Hopefully things will continue to improve.

fractional

In case you didn't know, 20 years ago, and according to the "pioneers", the EK housing was not bad at all and people did not have EY's problem. The only thing they didn't have was the PPRuNe.

cantilever

There are a few points I fail to understand from the serial whingers, perhaps someone could clarify;

1 If life in your homeland was so good why did you leave to come to EY?

2 If EY is so unbearable why do you stay?

Housing allowance increased (not nearly enough) but surely this is a step in the right direction...schooling increased..(no one paid my kids education at home!).
My kids certainly do not amuse themselves in the elevator and if yours do maybe you should consider joining a club....then again maybe they are not upto standard!

Time for some of us to grow up,... EY is far from perfect but come here with realistic expectations and do some homework ....

pilotusa

I had an interesting email exchange with an EY management type a few weeks ago. You may want to stay put. This guy is an A, number one, A**h***.

avinash

Hello Friends,
I'm new here. This is my first post. I have just read all the comments about Etihad and also seen their ad. Please tell me, is it worth giving up a left seat in 737-800 in India for a right seat in a 777 in Etihad? I ask this in the context of Company and Social environments as well as the 777. I'd be grateful for all your comments. Thanks.

Severely Jetlagged

Avinash,

I think you will find that Etihad have enough qualified B777 first officers applying for the few remaining positions on the fleet that your application would not see the light of day.

I've heard they may consider non-rated (non A320/330/340 or B777) pilots in the future but not right now. I've a friend in a similar situation which is why I can provide an answer.

NG_Kaptain

London's Control, I see you are 17 years old. Are you a bit young to be making pronouncements on this forum?

Tintin

I would like to have some info from insider please on the T&C:

Housing allowance of 108 000 is that enough for a villa???

How's the rostering? biding?

Do they plan for commuting contract or overseas base?

On the web they say 700 aed per duty day is that the per diem or just flight pay??

Average hours on the 330/340 per month?

And the most important one are you guys happy there or you have to fight for everything

thanks

semper fi

You've opened a new can of worms again with that question, c'mon boys, do the sharks wanna answer objectively or subjectively....again.

Tintin

I would like to have some info from insider please on the T&C:

Housing allowance of 108 000 is that enough for a villa???

How's the rostering? biding?

Do they plan for commuting contract or overseas base?

On the web they say 700 aed per duty day is that the per diem or just flight pay??

Average hours on the 330/340 per month?

And the most important one are you guys happy there or you have to fight for everything

thanks

sec 3

Hey tintin, I'm sure they want to hire pilots who can't even spell the name of the company properly

stratocumulus

Took the words right
out of my mouth........after all we must protect our high standards

stratocumulus

Yeahhhhhh mate we are very happy....come on budy join ethiad