GF does it again... DECs!!!
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Oh and duelling with me? What? Pardon? What are you on about.
There are many pilots out here who wouldn't be where they are today were it not for GF. Me and you included. You'd do well to remember that. In the meantime I'll get back to my coldy. 3 months leave a year and i've only just passed 100 hours this year, to go with my 290 hours last year. I'm in pilot utopia. Glad you're working really hard BC, surprised you have time to be on Pprune!
There are many pilots out here who wouldn't be where they are today were it not for GF. Me and you included. You'd do well to remember that. In the meantime I'll get back to my coldy. 3 months leave a year and i've only just passed 100 hours this year, to go with my 290 hours last year. I'm in pilot utopia. Glad you're working really hard BC, surprised you have time to be on Pprune!
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It seems Bagof****e has opened a can of worms for himself. Not surprising given his previous form on this matter. I have just found out who he is and I have to say I agree with what has been said. Not an Ace and definitely STILL an FO. You must have been pretty stupid to come to GF and think that you would get command in 2yrs (if indeed you were told this, which I doubt). GF has a lot of guys much more experienced and higher on the seniority list than you were ever going to be. Unless you hoped you were going to just jump over everyone else. From your posts I thought you were complaining that GF never respects seniority yet you would have been quite happy to let it happen just for you and your mates. BC FYI your name (real name) is being thrown around the GF Ops room quite a lot lately.
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Jack jack jack...
Who are you JB? Are you a FO in GF? Well I don't think so. I think you are a PIC on the 320 fleet. So if this is true stop blaming us 320 FO. Your comments are arrogant and not professional at all. Stop insulting people by changing their pprune nicknames
If you are flying on the 320 fleet you know how hard we are working and how difficult it is to have a decent life with constant duty plan changes. Am I wrong?
Now facts :
Regarding fleet transfer
CCQ 320 / 340.
April CCQ 2 PIC 2 FO, May CCQ postponed!!! July CCQ 2 FO instead of 6 initialy planned. No idee when next CCQ will take place!!!
At the main time 6 DEFO 330 + 4 in course now.
1 ex Air arabia, Qatar DEC PIC 320 and 1 SO just finished the sim.
2 DEC 767.
and so on...
330/340 FO's waiting for their upgrade and bypassed again by DEC....
Any news about CCQ 320 / 330?
I fully agree with bird dogs,LDG no blue posts.
I count only 2 upgraded expats on the 320 fleet. No idee about 767.
Now my point of view. Nothing will change in GF. Too many uncompetent managers who have fears for their positions. GF will continue to hire DEC and DEFO on the big birds. Only solution : Accept it or go. Personally I will go. But not without a fight for my right! Too many breaches of contract and of course I will leave without paying a penny of this illegal bond. Good luck to all you in GF. You will need it...
ia 1166: I understand why you left GF
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If you are flying on the 320 fleet you know how hard we are working and how difficult it is to have a decent life with constant duty plan changes. Am I wrong?Now facts :
Regarding fleet transfer
CCQ 320 / 340.
April CCQ 2 PIC 2 FO, May CCQ postponed!!! July CCQ 2 FO instead of 6 initialy planned. No idee when next CCQ will take place!!!
At the main time 6 DEFO 330 + 4 in course now.
1 ex Air arabia, Qatar DEC PIC 320 and 1 SO just finished the sim.
2 DEC 767.
and so on...
330/340 FO's waiting for their upgrade and bypassed again by DEC....
Any news about CCQ 320 / 330?
I fully agree with bird dogs,LDG no blue posts.
I count only 2 upgraded expats on the 320 fleet. No idee about 767.
Now my point of view. Nothing will change in GF. Too many uncompetent managers who have fears for their positions. GF will continue to hire DEC and DEFO on the big birds. Only solution : Accept it or go. Personally I will go. But not without a fight for my right!
Too many breaches of contract and of course I will leave without paying a penny of this illegal bond. Good luck to all you in GF. You will need it... ia 1166: I understand why you left GF
Fly high
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So... what are the correct facts?
Jackbauer, If Picobello's facts are completely wrong, could you please enlighten us all with the correct facts? Any correct info would be greatly appreciated!! (Although some of Picobello's facts are undeniable, such as DECs on B767, the ex-Air Arabia guy and the senior A330/A340 FOs being delayed for command...)
Safe Flights!
JJ
Safe Flights!
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Less talk, more facts.
I am still waiting for a post with good arguments, like Picobelo, JJ and Bird Dog. This personal exchange of insults leads to nowhere.
If you disagree with the above mentioned, please provide me with a negative.
Somebody try to convince me that GF is not bull****ting us, FOs, with this DEC's story!
That we pay the price for their lack of vision and basic management skills.
That GF is not just a stepping stone for a better, heavier rating!
Believe me, I came to GF to make a career, get my command and settle down. Like many others who left already.
Now, I'm seriously considering other options.
LNB
If you disagree with the above mentioned, please provide me with a negative.
Somebody try to convince me that GF is not bull****ting us, FOs, with this DEC's story!
That we pay the price for their lack of vision and basic management skills.
That GF is not just a stepping stone for a better, heavier rating!
Believe me, I came to GF to make a career, get my command and settle down. Like many others who left already.
Now, I'm seriously considering other options.
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Originally Posted by LDG NO BLUE
Somebody try to convince me that GF is not bull****ting us, FOs, with this DEC's story!
So you and your current generation knew nothing of likely DECs in GF. You can thank vfenext, ia1166 etc that saboutaged opportunity to be forewarned.
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Originally Posted by jackbauer
BC FYI your name (real name) is being thrown around the GF Ops room quite a lot lately.
PM me and I will ensure you have my real name. So I can genuinely greet those in the Op's Room.
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Emirate Pilot News
Emirates Signs $261 Million Agreement With Ex-Im
K.T. Abdurabb, Arab News
DUBAI, 7 July 2006 — Emirates Airline has signed a $261 million financing agreement with the Export-Import Bank (Ex-Im) of the United States for two B777-300ER aircraft, scheduled for delivery in August and October 2006.
Arranged by Citigroup, the innovative 12-year financing for both aircraft combines an Ex-Im supported loan with commercial funding, and carries a weighted average cost of funds of 0.66 per cent over three-month LIBOR (London Inter Bank Offered Rate).
The Ex-Im supported loan was fully funded by Citigroup and the commercial loan was funded by Citigroup and Bayerische Landesbank.
Nigel Hopkins, Emirates’ executive vice president of service department said: “We are appreciative of the support of Citigroup, one of the leading financiers in the world. Including this financing, we have used US Ex-Im Bank support on only four aircraft to date and there is further potential for US Ex-Im Bank supported financing in helping us finance a number of Emirates’ future Boeing deliveries.”
Emirates currently operates an all wide-bodied fleet of 94 aircraft comprising: 37 Boeing 777s, 29 Airbus A330-200s, ten Airbus 340-500s, eight A340-300s, one Airbus A310, three Airbus A310F and six Boeing 747 freighters.
In addition, the airline has an order book of over 100 aircraft units worth $28 billion, including 38 more Boeing 777-300ERs.
Emirates operates flights to 84 cities in 57 countries in Europe, North America, the Middle East, Africa, Indian subcontinent and Asia Pacific. In the next months, it intends to launch new services to Beijing and Bangalore.
K.T. Abdurabb, Arab News
DUBAI, 7 July 2006 — Emirates Airline has signed a $261 million financing agreement with the Export-Import Bank (Ex-Im) of the United States for two B777-300ER aircraft, scheduled for delivery in August and October 2006.
Arranged by Citigroup, the innovative 12-year financing for both aircraft combines an Ex-Im supported loan with commercial funding, and carries a weighted average cost of funds of 0.66 per cent over three-month LIBOR (London Inter Bank Offered Rate).
The Ex-Im supported loan was fully funded by Citigroup and the commercial loan was funded by Citigroup and Bayerische Landesbank.
Nigel Hopkins, Emirates’ executive vice president of service department said: “We are appreciative of the support of Citigroup, one of the leading financiers in the world. Including this financing, we have used US Ex-Im Bank support on only four aircraft to date and there is further potential for US Ex-Im Bank supported financing in helping us finance a number of Emirates’ future Boeing deliveries.”
Emirates currently operates an all wide-bodied fleet of 94 aircraft comprising: 37 Boeing 777s, 29 Airbus A330-200s, ten Airbus 340-500s, eight A340-300s, one Airbus A310, three Airbus A310F and six Boeing 747 freighters.
In addition, the airline has an order book of over 100 aircraft units worth $28 billion, including 38 more Boeing 777-300ERs.
Emirates operates flights to 84 cities in 57 countries in Europe, North America, the Middle East, Africa, Indian subcontinent and Asia Pacific. In the next months, it intends to launch new services to Beijing and Bangalore.
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Thank you for your constructive comments BC.
guys i'm not there anymore but its the busy season and GF are no doubt in crisis management with crew shortages. Also the DEC from Air Arabia. Was it a political move? Is the guy connected? The DECs on the 767 may have been a last move to protect the service which must come first or the airline will fold. You work in the ME and a lot of odd stuff goes on. If GF continue to hire DECs after summer then have a think about what to do. I'd agree with VFEs coments on other threads though. Think its any better in EK/QR/ET? I think not. EK is hiring DECs all the time. What happened to their short track command deals? Qr haven't promoted an expat ever i think.
Gf is a lot better than when i arrived. BG spent 9 years as an FO and he was a chief pilot on DC8s beforehand. Ask him what he thinks or the senior FOs, and don't listen to peolpe like BC. He left 4 odd years ago and has no right to still attack GF. Only people in it are allowed to.
Where i am now there are ex ansett fos from the 89 strike. 50 odd year old guys with 15k+ hours. Still in the RHS coz they kept moving on to supposedly better jobs. We are now offering commands to expats but they want 25K US$ up front, a 25KUS$ bond and you will earn FO salary for the first 6 months. What a nightmare but the guys will take it as its all they have. Its not a nice world anymore.
Anyway, wait a few months and see what GF do long term. Its still a good place if you married, the pay is up on 5 years ago, expats are on the 340/330 in both seats, lots of leave and i'm hoping staff travel is still good. If you decide to leave make sure its to a better place. Don't do it too many times though as you just move to the back of the queue each time. Oh a don't do what i did unless you really have to. And then never do it again.
guys i'm not there anymore but its the busy season and GF are no doubt in crisis management with crew shortages. Also the DEC from Air Arabia. Was it a political move? Is the guy connected? The DECs on the 767 may have been a last move to protect the service which must come first or the airline will fold. You work in the ME and a lot of odd stuff goes on. If GF continue to hire DECs after summer then have a think about what to do. I'd agree with VFEs coments on other threads though. Think its any better in EK/QR/ET? I think not. EK is hiring DECs all the time. What happened to their short track command deals? Qr haven't promoted an expat ever i think.
Gf is a lot better than when i arrived. BG spent 9 years as an FO and he was a chief pilot on DC8s beforehand. Ask him what he thinks or the senior FOs, and don't listen to peolpe like BC. He left 4 odd years ago and has no right to still attack GF. Only people in it are allowed to.
Where i am now there are ex ansett fos from the 89 strike. 50 odd year old guys with 15k+ hours. Still in the RHS coz they kept moving on to supposedly better jobs. We are now offering commands to expats but they want 25K US$ up front, a 25KUS$ bond and you will earn FO salary for the first 6 months. What a nightmare but the guys will take it as its all they have. Its not a nice world anymore.
Anyway, wait a few months and see what GF do long term. Its still a good place if you married, the pay is up on 5 years ago, expats are on the 340/330 in both seats, lots of leave and i'm hoping staff travel is still good. If you decide to leave make sure its to a better place. Don't do it too many times though as you just move to the back of the queue each time. Oh a don't do what i did unless you really have to. And then never do it again.
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That Guy (a. Koheji) is connected with H. Ali, and he is not the last one. There are about 6 more bahraini ex gf cp`s looking forward to come and for to be sure there will be more with this training scheme of 2007. They will upgrade only 8 this year. Reason :::
Crew shortage..hahahahaha. Did anybody wonder why they reduced the upgrade number from 26 to 8 ? Maybe becouse it is now expat`s turn for the upgrade ?????????????????
Is anybody asking to H.Ali what is the meaning of a temp. DEC`s (340) whic is now more than 3 years?? At least stop calling them temp.s. Guys, this people doesnt care anything else than their pockets, buddies, ,... They dont give a sh..t if the company looses, flights cancelled due to crew shortage... So here is my advice after 5 years of wasting my time
For the people who has enough exp. : DONT waste your time here. Start applying to some real companys with some real managers.
If u dont have exp. then u have to wait for it, by the way anybody has friends who wants to get some free type rating call them here. This is the perfect place to get trained, get exp, and then f...k off.
Think and fly safe.
That Guy (a. Koheji) is connected with H. Ali, and he is not the last one. There are about 6 more bahraini ex gf cp`s looking forward to come and for to be sure there will be more with this training scheme of 2007. They will upgrade only 8 this year. Reason :::
Crew shortage..hahahahaha. Did anybody wonder why they reduced the upgrade number from 26 to 8 ? Maybe becouse it is now expat`s turn for the upgrade ?????????????????Is anybody asking to H.Ali what is the meaning of a temp. DEC`s (340) whic is now more than 3 years?? At least stop calling them temp.s. Guys, this people doesnt care anything else than their pockets, buddies, ,... They dont give a sh..t if the company looses, flights cancelled due to crew shortage... So here is my advice after 5 years of wasting my time
For the people who has enough exp. : DONT waste your time here. Start applying to some real companys with some real managers.
If u dont have exp. then u have to wait for it, by the way anybody has friends who wants to get some free type rating call them here. This is the perfect place to get trained, get exp, and then f...k off.
Think and fly safe.
